dehowie wrote:
All I see is page after page of great photos and two randoms with no history generating a sh$& storm for fun.
How about someone put up some images showing an issue?
It's pretty easy to start a conspiracy these days hey if it's on the net it must be true right??
Right now it's nothing but one guy with two logins here and DPR with nothing.
When people who are using the camera with long glass like ME start seeing a problem or some has more evidence than hot air id be saying it's just Nikon faboys stirring the pot.
Thousands and thousands of great photos and all of a sudden it doesn't work?
If it looks like bullsh&$ smells like bullsh$) guess what it probably is?
Show us some proof not words.....Show more →
So lets see, because YOU haven't had a problem, that means not a single one of the cameras Canon has produced has a fault which is repeatable and verifyable? because YOU can take a decent photo of a dog coming toward you, that means that there cannot be a fault with a system trying to tack a motorcycle or F-1 car coming toward you at 150mph? And then you ask for photo proof of an issue which renders a camera unable to take photos.
dehowie wrote:
All I see is page after page of great photos and two randoms with no history generating a sh$& storm for fun.
How about someone put up some images showing an issue?
It's pretty easy to start a conspiracy these days hey if it's on the net it must be true right??
I agree with you, but held my tongue when I first saw this thread a couple of days ago.
It may or may not be fishy - anything's possible, including 'industrial sabotage'.
mikeinctown wrote:
So lets see, because YOU haven't had a problem, that means not a single one of the cameras Canon has produced has a fault which is repeatable and verifyable? because YOU can take a decent photo of a dog coming toward you, that means that there cannot be a fault with a system trying to tack a motorcycle or F-1 car coming toward you at 150mph? And then you ask for photo proof of an issue which renders a camera unable to take photos.
Your logic astounds me.
Your logic astounds me.
We have 90 plus pages of brilliant photos taken by people all over the world plus many here.
Not just me but by hundreds of photographers everywhere.
Let me see what are the chances that this guy gets two lemons plus his mate gets one as well three out of three and no one else in the world has reported an issue?
Not one complaint re AF from others just actual photos proving it works in all scenarios.
One guy with no history sticks his head up saying the camera sucks and "you" instantly believe everything he says.
Your logic astounds me..
Let me guess Armstrong never walked on the moon and chemtrails are real as well?
It's all true I heard it from a guy with 3 posts..
On the flip side if this guy want to show some evidence I'm happy to believe he might have a problem.
Until he does it smellier than a prawn in a hub cap..
therealthings wrote:
Well i have to admit that the 1dxII is not always on the money with it's AF.
Though i had set the wrong case here (1) and AF set to 9 group expansion.
www.serv.therealthings.com/pics/focus1.jpg
www.serv.therealthings.com/pics/focus2.jpg
How many in the burst, where your examples came from, were OOF? You admit that you set the wrong AF mode and used the wrong Case. With all due respect, your post gives the mistaken impression that the 1dx2 is at fault with no consideration for operator error.
In all fairness, your posts of your images on the 1dx2 images thread are very good. In addition, the 1dx2 is not infallable nor is it advertised to be. Maybe a balanced post in this thread might have been better.
mogud wrote:
How many in the burst, where your examples came from, were OOF? You admit that you set the wrong AF mode and used the wrong Case. With all due respect, your post gives the mistaken impression that the 1dx2 is at fault with no consideration for operator error.
In all fairness, your posts of your images on the 1dx2 images thread are very good. In addition, the 1dx2 is not infallable nor is it advertised to be. Maybe a balanced post in this thread might have been better.
Just sayin.
Wowowow hold on there... I'm not here to balance anything nor to stir things up. But it shows that the camera nor photographer are perfect. And at least i'm one of the few people here and DPR that talks about a camera that i actually own.
therealthings wrote:
Wowowow hold on there... I'm not here to balance anything nor to stir things up. But it shows that the camera nor photographer are perfect. And at least i'm one of the few people here and DPR that talks about a camera that i actually own.
I'm not sure what the point was of posting the link to images? Contrary to your assertion above, the images show no fault with the camera, only your error. I think anyone, with any camera can post an image demonstrating a mistake that they made, it has zero relevance to this camera.
Iwas joeking wrote:
I'm not sure what the point was of posting the link to images? Contrary to your assertion above, the images show no fault with the camera, only your error. I think anyone, with any camera can post an image demonstrating a mistake that they made, it has zero relevance to this camera.
Good for you joe. Now, where you there? Do you own the 1dx mark II, and please tell me what went wrong here. I'm listening...
therealthings wrote:
Good for you joe. Now, where you there? Do you own the 1dx mark II, and please tell me what went wrong here. I'm listening...
What does me being there have to do with you making an error? I'm just saying it tells us nothing about the camera. I could post a couple of images taken with the lens off to demonstrate, using your paradigm, how "the camera isn't perfect."
therealthings wrote:
You didn't read carefully and only pick out the words to escalate this. Be more constructive next time.
Now, tell me, do you own the 1dxII and please tell me what went wrong in those mis-focussed images.
Yes, I do. The camera handed off the focus to one of the expanded points. Figuring out when to use point expansion, group and so on is the biggest challenge.
Iwas joeking wrote:
Yes, I do. The camera handed off the focus to one of the expanded points. Figuring out when to use point expansion, group and so on is the biggest challenge.
And that can result in an image with nothing in focus? (the first image) So next time i should really use 1 point focus and have that on it's beak? Hmm, that's not all that easy peasy.
The next image is showing the branch in focus with the focus point above the branch, how do you explain that?
I'm nitpicking for sure because you could have read (in the 1dxII image thread) that in a sequence of 12 only 2 were oof. Just trying to figure out what and why. I do know case 5 would have been better, though it all happened in a blink and i didn't have time to switch.
therealthings wrote:
And that can result in an image with nothing in focus? So next time i should really use 1 point focus and have that on it's beak? Hmm, that's not all that easy peasy.
The second image; it looks like the focus went to the perch. No idea how it was tracking as it flew in. If it was ever really on the bird or not. Personally, unless a bird is against the sky or against a very uniform, distant background, I'd never use anything but single point. If light is low and focus is struggling, I might do a small expansion, but that's it.
dehowie wrote:
Your logic astounds me.
We have 90 plus pages of brilliant photos taken by people all over the world plus many here.
Not just me but by hundreds of photograpgphers everywhere.
Let me see what are the chances that this guy gets two lemons plus his mate gets one as well three out of three and no one else in the world has reported an issue?
Not one complaint re AF from others just actual photos proving it works in all scenarios.
One guy with no history sticks his head up saying the camera sucks and "you" instantly believe everything he says.
Your logic astounds me..
Let me guess Armstorng never walked on the moon and chemtrails are real as well?
It's all true I heard it from a guy with 3 posts..
On the flip side if this guy want to show some evidence I'm happy to believe he might have a problem.
Until he does it smellier than a prawn in a hub cap.. ...Show more →
Seeing that i am one of the three or four that are experiencing problems with the camera i feel i may be able to help a little here.
I wouldn't say that there are hundreds or even 50 cameras at this time that have a fault but there is a problem with some of the 1DX MKII's in certain situations when being used with the large primes and just because the lovely people like yourself with fully functioning cameras cant reproduce the fault i gather im either incompetent or just on drugs then?
In certain situations my camera locks the moment i push the shutter release and the A/F point and display info vanishes as you get the lovely sound of the mirror assembly flipping up and then just sticking there,rear and top LCD stay on and the power switches stops doing anything.
Once i pull the battery i hear the mirror release and return and i gain all functions again but then sometimes it will lock immediately i try to focus again and other times it will let me fire of 30 or even 300 shots before locking again and having to pull the battery.
I would love to have the time to be able to video and document this intermittent behaviour just to prove people like yourself that seem to be under the illusion its industrial espionage or just Nikon fanboys taking on the Canon fanboys but im afraid that as a self employed photographer trying to earn money shooting motorsport i dont have the time.
On smaller tracks here by the fourth or fifth lap you may have the bikes spread out over a complete lap so by that point be shooting for prolonged periods in bursts of 3 or 5 images and at this point is when i myself have seen most lock ups.
I am sure the combination of write speeds with the new CFast cards and the extra current required to drive the big primes forward and backwards over a 30 or 40 meter distance when tracking each bike is the cause of the problem a few of us are having which is why it was good to see others experiencing a similar problem with lockups using primes at sport.
This has gone the same way it did when i was an early adopter of the 1D MKIII as yet again i was called a liar and someone that didn't have a clue and also funny enough with the 7D MKII problems fixed with the first firmware released as it failed to focus with certain lenses.
Sorry if i come across a little pissed but i have been through this so many times in the last few cameras that it starts to get a little annoying,some people are blowing stuff way out of proportion on the figures etc i must admit but i can assure everyone that a few are experiencing problems under very specific circumstances.
I could post a load of out of focus shots but again there are way to many variables available that can influence that but the fact it locks the complete camera up and requires a battery pull is cause for concern and we may find that some of the focus reports may also be linked in some manor but that's for CPS to find out.
I have very little posts here and on DP Review as im more active on another camera forum but was interested in the fact that others had reported the same fault and i wanted to see under what conditions it had occurred with them and didn't expect to end up being called a liar.
therealthings wrote:
And that can result in an image with nothing in focus? (the first image) So next time i should really use 1 point focus and have that on it's beak? Hmm, that's not all that easy peasy.
The next image is showing the branch in focus with the focus point above the branch, how do you explain that?
I'm nitpicking for sure because you could have read (in the 1dxII image thread) that in a sequence of 12 only 2 were oof. Just trying to figure out what and why. I do know case 5 would have been better, though it all happened in a blink and i didn't have time to switch....Show more →
Sorry, I think my replies are coming in between your edits.
I'm not familiar with your series in the 1DxII image thread. IMO, I would read about the autofocus parameters and set them up in "My Menu." Make sure you fully understand them, and adjust them directly as needed. Personally I think the Case numbers are a mistake to follow blindly, and a person is better off understanding what is going on and altering the parameters as they see fit.
Either that or just shoot in defaults.
Iwas joeking wrote:
The second image; it looks like the focus went to the perch. No idea how it was tracking as it flew in. If it was ever really on the bird or not. Personally, unless a bird is against the sky or against a very uniform, distant background, I'd never use anything but single point. If light is low and focus is struggling, I might do a small expansion, but that's it.
So you'd go for the 5 point focus. (cross)
I know the smaller your focus area the more accurate but i was busy photographing small birds when suddenly this buzzard came flying towards me and i didn't have time to switch anything that fast so i had to work with what i had.
Iwas joeking wrote:
Sorry, I think my replies are coming in between your edits.
I'm not familiar with your series in the 1DxII image thread. IMO, I would read about the autofocus parameters and set them up in "My Menu." Make sure you fully understand them, and adjust them directly as needed. Personally I think the Case numbers are a mistake to follow blindly, and a person is better off understanding what is going and altering the parameters as they see fit.
Either that or just shoot in defaults.
I know what cases do
I modified some to my taste, but again, i did not have the time (or i'm just not fast enough yet with this camera) to switch.
therealthings wrote:
So you'd go for the 5 point focus. (cross)
I know the smaller your focus area the more accurate but i was busy photographing small birds when suddenly this buzzard came flying towards me and i didn't have time to switch anything that fast so i had to work with what i had.
That's what I do. Maybe others have better experiences with point expansion modes.
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