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p.62 #1 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


bobbytan wrote:
Looks to me like you do have a match made in heaven:

You with the 12-100 + 100-400.
Poof with her 12-40 + 40-150 + 300 + TC.

So where's the conflict?



To make the Oly lineup almost complete we have to add the 7-14/2.8 Pro. The following image was taken with that lens on E-M1.2

https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2017-01-04-E-M127-1428-PRO/i-ZxPXpth/0/O/_1040021_Waterfall_5184x3888_2400x1800.jpg

As primes I only have the Nocticron 42.5/1.2 that I like a lot.
My question is what are fast comparable lenses for other focal lengths?

K-H.



Jan 04, 2017 at 11:48 PM
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p.62 #2 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Bobby I just need the 12-100 and I'm running out of kidneys :
Between satisfying the Sony and Canon hunger I'm hurting.
Forgot to add, this image was Poof approved for posting to FM

Specular by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr



Jan 05, 2017 at 12:54 AM
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p.62 #3 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


The Nocticron is my absolute favorite lens. Bokeh and OOF rendering is just fabulous. To me it's a better lens than the Canon 85/1.2L II. The Olympus 75/1.8 is also an amazing lens - as good as the Canon 135/2L. I don't own the Oly 25/1.2 but I have no doubts that it's a sweet lens. The PL 25/1.4 is an awesome lens as well although the rattle-snaking bothered me somewhat. The Oly 12/2 is a nice lens. The Oly 60/2.8 macro is a great lens too. The Oly 7-14/2.8 PRO is a disappointment and not worth the premium price IMO. I am returning to the Panasonic 7-14/4 lens.

k-h.a.w wrote:
To make the Oly lineup almost complete we have to add the 7-14/2.8 Pro. The following image was taken with that lens on E-M1.2

https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2017-01-04-E-M127-1428-PRO/i-ZxPXpth/0/O/_1040021_Waterfall_5184x3888_2400x1800.jpg

As primes I only have the Nocticron 42.5/1.2 that I like a lot.
My question is what are fast comparable lenses for other focal lengths?

K-H.




Jan 05, 2017 at 01:27 AM
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p.62 #4 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Very nice, MM! Poof needs to proof your work in future.

MedicineMan404 wrote:
Bobby I just need the 12-100 and I'm running out of kidneys :
Between satisfying the Sony and Canon hunger I'm hurting.
Forgot to add, this image was Poof approved for posting to FM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/543/31739217080_f3cc18c7c1_h.jpgSpecular by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr




Jan 05, 2017 at 01:36 AM
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p.62 #5 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


That is a very good looking image, Robert!


Jan 05, 2017 at 02:28 AM
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p.62 #6 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


bobbytan wrote:
Very nice, MM! Poof needs to proof your work in future.



I agree with Bobby



Jan 05, 2017 at 03:11 AM
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p.62 #7 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Bobby, Mitesh, Skama it kinda hurts to hear you all say that but it's true.
But I know you all care or you wouldn't say anything.



Jan 05, 2017 at 09:05 AM
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p.62 #8 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Just watched Tony Northrup's video on the upcoming GH5. Made the GH5 seem much superior to the E-M1 II. Very slanted in my opinion, especially since the majority of the pros are on the video side. Followed that up with Olympus needs to drop the price soon.

GH5
$2,000
4k/60p
Better EVF
Full HDMI
HDR Video
4:2:2

E-M1 II
4k/30p (as a negative)
Smaller



Jan 05, 2017 at 09:07 AM
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p.62 #9 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Didn't know that the GH5 shoot stills too.

TMaG82 wrote:
Just watched Tony Northrup's video on the upcoming GH5. Made the GH5 seem much superior to the E-M1 II. Very slanted in my opinion, especially since the majority of the pros are on the video side. Followed that up with Olympus needs to drop the price soon.

GH5
$2,000
4k/60p
Better EVF
Full HDMI
HDR Video
4:2:2

E-M1 II
4k/30p (as a negative)
Smaller




Jan 05, 2017 at 09:16 AM
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p.62 #10 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Awwww ... I am sorry if we hurt your feelings. Truth sucks isn't it? But hey, we did say that your image looks great!

MedicineMan404 wrote:
Bobby, Mitesh, Skama it kinda hurts to hear you all say that but it's true.
But I know you all care or you wouldn't say anything.




Jan 05, 2017 at 09:19 AM
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p.62 #11 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Thanks for the feedback bobbytan. I agree on the Nocticron. I forgot to mention my Oly 60/2.8 macro. I have read high recommendations of the Oly 75/1.8 before. I need to read up more about fast 25 and 12 mm options. I am a little puzzled about your assessment of the Oly 7-14/2.8 Pro. Could you please elaborate why that lens is a disappointment to you? TIA.

K-H.

bobbytan wrote:
The Nocticron is my absolute favorite lens. Bokeh and OOF rendering is just fabulous. To me it's a better lens than the Canon 85/1.2L II. The Olympus 75/1.8 is also an amazing lens - as good as the Canon 135/2L. I don't own the Oly 25/1.2 but I have no doubts that it's a sweet lens. The PL 25/1.4 is an awesome lens as well although the rattle-snaking bothered me somewhat. The Oly 12/2 is a nice lens. The Oly 60/2.8 macro is a great lens too. The Oly 7-14/2.8 PRO is a disappointment and not worth the premium price
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Jan 05, 2017 at 10:47 AM
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p.62 #12 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


I'm glad differing opinions are allowed because Poof loves her Oly 7-14Pro. I've never used it.
Speaking of Poof she struggled to approve this morning's shot saying it's close but could be better. I just loved the colors. No light of course. We haven't seen the Sun for 24 hours and snow and ice are coming.
I used the 40-150Pro and tried Pro Capture (I think that is what it is called) and this is one of the few that came out close enough. Anyway here is this morning's grab almost Poof approved.

First shot of the day by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr



Jan 05, 2017 at 10:54 AM
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p.62 #13 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Thanks MM. That's a great shot!
Our Blue Jays look a tad different.

K-H.



Jan 05, 2017 at 11:05 AM
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p.62 #14 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


There are 3 things (all very important to me) that I like about the Panasonic:

• Size and weight (significant difference) ... and cuteness!
• Corner-to-corner sharpness (Oly is a little soft at the corners)
• Price

The Panasonic lens on an Olympus body suffers from purple flare when shot with the sun in front of you (main reason why I sold the Panasonic and got the Olympus) but there are workarounds. True that f2.8 aperture is nice but since I use this lens almost exclusively for landscape and architectural work, I would seldom use this lens wide open, and corner-to-corner sharpness is far more important. And yes, the Panasonic lens is not weather-sealed. Neither lens is perfect but the Panasonic lens is a little more desirable - to me.

k-h.a.w wrote:
Thanks for the feedback bobbytan. I agree on the Nocticron. I forgot to mention my Oly 60/2.8 macro. I have read high recommendations of the Oly 75/1.8 before. I need to read up more about fast 25 and 12 mm options. I am a little puzzled about your assessment of the Oly 7-14/2.8 Pro. Could you please elaborate why that lens is a disappointment to you? TIA.

K-H.






Jan 05, 2017 at 11:27 AM
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p.62 #15 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Thank you bobbytan for your explanation.
Why does the purple flare happen on an Oly body?
Does Olympus correct for that firmware-wise only on their own lenses? TIA.

K-H.



Jan 05, 2017 at 11:48 AM
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p.62 #16 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Please refer to the links below for the explanation.

http://cameralabs.com/reviews/Olympus_OMD_EM1/EM1_with_Lumix_7-14mm_flare.shtml
http://alanwatsonforster.org/writing/mft-purple.html
https://www.mu-43.com/threads/panasonic-7-14mm-flare-case-study-for-a-solution.33183/

k-h.a.w wrote:
Thank you bobbytan for your explanation.
Why does the purple flare happen on an Oly body?
Does Olympus correct for that firmware-wise only on their own lenses? TIA.

K-H.




Jan 05, 2017 at 12:41 PM
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p.62 #17 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Thank you bobbytan for the pointers to the very informative articles.
I'll stick mostly to my Oly lenses. Luckily the Nocticron doesn't seem affected either.
The tests were carried out on E-M5 and E-M1.
I wonder though whether the E-M1.2 is negatively affected as well.

A quote from the second reference:

"It is believed that the integrated UV filter in Olympus bodies cuts off at 390 nm whereas the filter in Panasonic bodies cuts off at 430 nm. Presumably, native lenses are designed to give at most moderate lateral and longitudinal chromatic aberration down to the corresponding UV cut off in the corresponding native body."

So, one question I have is what the unintended consequences would be - if there are any - if Olympus used the 430 mm cut off as well?

Thanks again, K-H.


bobbytan wrote:
Please refer to the links below for the explanation.

http://cameralabs.com/reviews/Olympus_OMD_EM1/EM1_with_Lumix_7-14mm_flare.shtml
http://alanwatsonforster.org/writing/mft-purple.html
https://www.mu-43.com/threads/panasonic-7-14mm-flare-case-study-for-a-solution.33183/




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Jan 05, 2017 at 01:13 PM
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p.62 #18 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


So far my Lumix 7-14 is fine on the new Oly but I've not shot into the Sun.
I'll play with the Nocticron sometime this weekend to get a feel.



Jan 05, 2017 at 01:17 PM
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p.62 #19 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


fun fact: packing 300mm f/4 Pro and 25mm f/1.2 Pro / EM1 mkii into a very tiny pack that you can walk/hike for miles without anyone know what you're carry? You can't not beat this.







Jan 05, 2017 at 01:27 PM
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p.62 #20 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


I haven't had an opportunity to take the Oly gear for an outing (after all, I did just get back from a 2-week trip, so I do have to go back to work), but I have to say that the random shooting I've done around the house leaves me pretty impressed with both the AF and IQ. AF locks on so quickly that I can't discern a difference between the Olympus and my Canon 1DX. I even tried low contrast scenes, backlit scenes, shiny objects, objects through screen/glass, and the Oly snapped into focus with the Pan-Leica 100-400 set at 400mm. Of course, I haven't vigorously tested the continuous AF and tracking yet, and that is where I'm really hoping the Oly delivers.

I shot the camera on Auto ISO and reviewed a couple shots around the house taken at ISO 6400. They look quite decent at full size. I do notice the limitation of the m43 sensor in how much the files can be pushed, and how they respond to NR. As Bobby said to me, you can't compare it to full frame, high-res sensors.




Jan 05, 2017 at 01:40 PM
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