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p.56 #1 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


gary0319 wrote:
I agree with I was Joe King,

Atmospheric conditions (humidity here in Florida) plays havoc with long shots at long focal lengths.

The image you just posted shows some pretty good detail, for a white bird. Feather detail is much easier to come by with darker feathered birds.



Yes, but why would m4/3 be more susceptible to that than any other camera system? I have absolutely seen issues with atmospheric conditions effecting images when I was shooting with a Canon 1DsM2 and a 500mm L lens.




Dec 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM
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p.56 #2 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


male Hooded Mergansers







Dec 28, 2016 at 11:18 AM
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p.56 #3 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


This is a good interview with some good photos with Olympus Visionary, Pulitzer Prize winner, and Nat Geo photographer, Jay Dickman:



His bio in the Olympus Visionaries page:

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/visionaries/jay_dickman#0

If the E-M1 and E-M1 Mk II cameras are good enough for Jay Dickman I think it should be good enough for most folks here ... unless you are a cut above a Nat Geo photographer with more impressive credentials than Jay.

Jay Dickman is proof that it's not the thing immediately in front of the photographer that is the problem but the thing immediately behind the camera.



Dec 28, 2016 at 11:56 AM
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p.56 #4 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Imagemaster, I like the reflections of the birds in water. You seem to get good sharp images from Pana 100-300mm lens.


Dec 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM
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p.56 #5 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


CPWarner wrote:
Yes, but why would m4/3 be more susceptible to that than any other camera system? I have absolutely seen issues with atmospheric conditions effecting images when I was shooting with a Canon 1DsM2 and a 500mm L lens.



Smaller pixels are the issue compared to a FF camera like the 1DsM2. The Canon is a FF camera with 16 megapixels. If you extrapolated a 20Meg MFT sensor to full frame, you would have around 80 megs.
Someone posted an analogy to explain it; I'll try to reproduce it as best I can. Imagine your full frame pixel is a one-foot square box, and you put a tennis ball in the middle which represents a point of light. The ball(point of light) can move around the box quite a bit(representing atmospheric instability), but it doesn't change the image because the pixel still reports the same thing, which is the one-foot square box/pixel value. Now consider dividing up that box into four separate squares to represent the smaller pixels of the micro 4/3 sensor. Our point of light is the same ball, but, now as it moves around, it can be in, out or an in-between state between various boxes(pixels). Therefore you will see a blurring of that point of light that you don't see with the bigger pixel.
So, as the analogy shows, if the atmosphere is unstable, it makes no difference to the zoomed in full frame pixels, but for the m43 you do.
Of course, if the air is stable, then the smaller pixels give you much higher resolution because four pixels report instead of one.



Dec 28, 2016 at 01:04 PM
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p.56 #6 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2016-12-21-E-M1230040-PROMC-14/i-Nf5QG9c/1/3835x2557/_C210040_Robin_4332x2888-3835x2557.jpg

E-M1.2 + 300f4.0 PRO + MC-14



Dec 28, 2016 at 06:01 PM
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https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2016-12-21-E-M1230040-PROMC-14/i-wLKnmt8/1/O/_C210721_Bluebird_3463x2309.jpg

E-M1.2 + 300f4.0 PRO + MC-14



Dec 28, 2016 at 06:03 PM
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p.56 #8 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


bobbytan wrote:
This is a good interview with some good photos with Olympus Visionary, Pulitzer Prize winner, and Nat Geo photographer, Jay Dickman:



His bio in the Olympus Visionaries page:

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/visionaries/jay_dickman#0

If the E-M1 and E-M1 Mk II cameras are good enough for Jay Dickman I think it should be good enough for most folks here ... unless you are a cut above a Nat Geo photographer with more impressive credentials than Jay.

Jay Dickman is proof that it's not the thing immediately in front of the photographer that is the problem but the thing immediately behind the camera.


Is that mean that you are not going to get another A7rII?



Dec 28, 2016 at 06:07 PM
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p.56 #9 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Yes ... for now. Right now I simply cannot afford nor justify spending $7,000 or so for more photo gear, so I am not in a position to even to think about it.

savingspaces wrote:
Is that mean that you are not going to get another A7rII?





Dec 28, 2016 at 06:54 PM
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p.56 #10 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


skamaraju wrote:
Imagemaster, I like the reflections of the birds in water. You seem to get good sharp images from Pana 100-300mm lens.


Thanks, it is a pretty good lens when conditions are right. However, I will be selling it to get the Oly 75-300, because Pro Capture will only work with the Oly, but not the Pany.

It is pretty lame that Oly does not make a MFT 100-400, or even a 400 f5.6. It is also ridiculous that they do not have MFT 1.4x & 2x TC's that work with most, if not all, their MFT lenses.

Having to shoot at ISO 6400 just to get shutter-speed of 1/1000 sec. on these dull winter days does not help.







Dec 28, 2016 at 10:01 PM
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k-h.a.w wrote:
E-M1.2 + 300f4.0 PRO + MC-14


Neither of those are too impressive, considering the low ISO and that expensive lens combo.



Dec 28, 2016 at 10:04 PM
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p.56 #12 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


K-haw, great to see a Robin and Bluebird!
We only get to see them in the summer time.



Dec 28, 2016 at 11:12 PM
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p.56 #13 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Here's another attempt at BIF from the Florida trip.
This bird was much closer, approx. 20 yards max my best guess.

Arc Angel by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr



Dec 28, 2016 at 11:13 PM
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p.56 #14 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


I see pictures but do you actually like the system or prefer your previous system ?


Dec 29, 2016 at 07:16 AM
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p.56 #15 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Iwas joeking wrote:
Smaller pixels are the issue compared to a FF camera like the 1DsM2. The Canon is a FF camera with 16 megapixels. If you extrapolated a 20Meg MFT sensor to full frame, you would have around 80 megs.
Someone posted an analogy to explain it; I'll try to reproduce it as best I can. Imagine your full frame pixel is a one-foot square box, and you put a tennis ball in the middle which represents a point of light. The ball(point of light) can move around the box quite a bit(representing atmospheric instability), but it doesn't change the image
...Show more

I see your point. I guess if I was seeing issues with a 1Dsmk2 then pretty much everything else would have had huge issues...




Dec 29, 2016 at 10:18 AM
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p.56 #16 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


you2 wrote:
I see pictures but do you actually like the system or prefer your previous system ?


I like the m4/3 system. I have also been an Olympus shooter since the 1970's, with a stint with Canon gear when I switched to digital. As with all systems, it has it's limitations. It is a smaller sensor, so other sensors will outperform it at even moderately elevated ISO's. For what I do, it suits my purposes. I have problems with arthritis in my big toes so hauling a full backpack with FF gear is not possible for any significant distance for me. Reducing my gear weight significantly has kept open greater possibilities for me to do what I enjoy. With photography being a hobby, I do not have a need to print much larger than 24"x36", which I have done successfully with images from an EM-5 and EM-1. Certainly, FF gear with outperform m4/3 in some aspects and probably have greater latitude in what it can handle. I say that as my wife shoots with a 5Dmk3 and we shoot similar things some times.

What I like beyond the weight is a lot of features built into the camera and that Olympus has expanded capabilities of their cameras with firmware updates. For example, I like the focus stacking and focus bracketing that were added to the Em1.1 and are in the EM1.2. I like the live bulb feature. I have not seen these elsewhere. I have been experimenting with the pro capture feature which is counter intuitive to me at this point but once I get it, will be a cool way to grab an action shot. Weather sealing is also remarkable in the OM-D Pro line. It is so good, I am not sure I am willing to test it after decades of protecting my gear from the elements. Lastly, the lenses are really good. Some of that is admittedly done with electronics, such as fixing fringing and aberrations. However, that does not bother me. I really like the focus clutch mechanisms on the PRO lenses that intuitively let me switch from autofocus to manual without pulling the camera away from my eye.

In terms of upgrades of the EM1.2 over the EM1.1, the new bigger battery is nice, I get much more time out of it. I also like the larger hand grip which fits my hands better, but not everyone may agree with that. The speed of the autofocus is noticeable. I also like that the autofocus covers more of the viewfinder.

There has been an overall grumbling about the menus for settings, but I can find my way around it. I think that this is a double edged sword. With more adjustability, which we want, the menus get more complicated, which we don't. I will say that having been using Olympus m4/3 cameras since the EM-5 came out, the EM1.2 menus do not bother me that much. I think changing between cameras takes a while to get used to new menus.

I am a bit unsure of the location of the new remote shutter release. In the positive, being on the hand grip, it will not interfere with l-brackets like in the EM1.1. On the negative they changed the plug, requiring you to buy a new one. Furthermore, I sometimes grip the camera and adjust the ball head with the remote release plugged in. So, until I am out in the field more with this, I will not be able to say whether this is a plus or minus.

Negatives, I am flat out annoyed that the AC adapter for charging the batteries when the hand grip is installed, has a new plug requiring one to buy a new $140 adapter. That was frustrating enough that I am not sure I will get the hand grip.

I will not really be able to critique the image quality until the "final" Adobe CC update comes out as the current one is preliminary. However, so far so good.

-Cliff



Dec 29, 2016 at 10:48 AM
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p.56 #17 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


I pretty much agree with everything you said. Forget about the grip. The camera is big enough as it is without the grip - and longer-life battery certainly helps.

CPWarner wrote:
I like the m4/3 system. I have also been an Olympus shooter since the 1970's, with a stint with Canon gear when I switched to digital. As with all systems, it has it's limitations. It is a smaller sensor, so other sensors will outperform it at even moderately elevated ISO's. For what I do, it suits my purposes. I have problems with arthritis in my big toes so hauling a full backpack with FF gear is not possible for any significant distance for me. Reducing my gear weight significantly has kept open greater possibilities for me to do what I
...Show more




Dec 29, 2016 at 12:29 PM
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p.56 #18 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Viera GBH with gift by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr


Dec 29, 2016 at 01:58 PM
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p.56 #19 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


bobbytan wrote:
I pretty much agree with everything you said. Forget about the grip. The camera is big enough as it is without the grip - and longer-life battery certainly helps.


I would consider adding a grip if it had two batteries in it, but not with just one. Easier and lighter to just have two extra batteries in a pocket.



Dec 29, 2016 at 02:03 PM
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p.56 #20 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


MedicineMan404 wrote:
K-haw, great to see a Robin and Bluebird!
We only get to see them in the summer time.


Thanks MedicineMan for the kind reply. Now you know where some of those birds spend their winters.

Here in the mountains of Northern New Mexico the bird populations not only change with the seasons but also seem to fluctuate significantly over the years. A few years back in the winter (12/2012) we had scores of Robins visiting the water dishes we set out in the backyard for the birds.

https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2012-12-12-D800E80-40045-56/i-B5VQnbX/0/O/_DSC1719_6876x3868_3840x2160.jpg

Then hardly any of them until this winter. Again many Robins coming for water - unless it has just rained.

Here is an image from June 2013, a mother Robin feeding her young with worms and grasshoppers.

https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2013-06-22-Feeding-Robins/i-8K5sGf8/0/O/_6220325-Edit_2861x2146.jpg

K-H.





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