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p.25 #1 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Lol. No don't go there it's a bottomless black hole. Lol

ecarlino wrote:
that's borderline scary, i should go now
:-)

i do need to get a life, however - i just finished another de-center test on my 35/1.4 (now that i found that goofy focus target): with focus distance at 3 feet (because that's the width of my air hockey table and i know it's perfectly square), the extreme right edge is out relative to the extreme left edge by about a 1/2 to 3/4 inch at f/2 and 3/8 to 1/2 inch at f2.8 - so i'll keep it (actually, i bought it used and will sell it after i get back from
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Apr 18, 2016 at 10:15 PM
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p.25 #2 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Off topic but I would love to see someone spare me a 85GM vs 85L test, TIA.


Apr 18, 2016 at 10:37 PM
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p.25 #3 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


GMPhotography wrote:
VC15 II. Loxia 21, GM 24-70, Sony 28 F2, Loxia 50, GM 85, Rokinon 135 and if that don't work i should just quit.



Many thanks Guy for sharing your current lens lineup.
It will be interesting to see how it will change from here on out, as you respond to new challenges and opportunities.

Thanks again, K-H.



Apr 18, 2016 at 10:48 PM
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p.25 #4 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Be a nice test. I don't have one though


Apr 18, 2016 at 10:48 PM
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p.25 #5 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


I'm really after a great 35 F2. I'm starting to think now the Batis 18 might just be to clinical in look over the Loxia 21 which I think matches these GM lenses better. Having this good a zoom really frees me up to use MF lenses more and for more specific things. I'm still a big fan of the VC 15 and I do love the Loxia 50. I actually really like the Loxia line. I do want a GM 135 just like this 85. The Rokinon is a place holder until than. I'm pretty happy now so the pressure is off and I can stay native mount.

k-h.a.w wrote:
Many thanks Guy for sharing your current lens lineup.
It will be interesting to see how it will change from here on out, as you respond to new challenges and opportunities.

Thanks again, K-H.




Apr 18, 2016 at 11:01 PM
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p.25 #6 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Hey all.. Just got my GM 85 delivered !!!
It's large but not as large as i thought, which is great.

As to the important stuff, the sound it makes..
I thought it would be much louder. The sound is not more than i've experienced with some lenses before really, of course not silent. Kind of hard to describe it so i recorded it..

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IO47OFI-fvaF80V2FKb2RzajA

This is me focusing a bunch of times so you can hear the sound, AF-C as you can hear at some occasions.
Autofocus is not FE 55 fast but i was worried it would be SLOW which it's not so far.

The sound it makes is for those of you that are old when you had a bad phone line and have noise, that kind of noise, or when the tv shows where done for the night and you had the "ant war" only darker sounding as we called it here in sweden.


EDIT: Another recording where i also took some shots so you can compare the shutter sound level that you all know how it sounds.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2IO47OFI-fvcUFaUTRnVV9aRVU



Apr 19, 2016 at 02:45 AM
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p.25 #7 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Congrats on the GM 85
Mine does not sound as loud but of course when you listen at normal distances it is not noticeable IMO



Apr 19, 2016 at 03:13 AM
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p.25 #8 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


I don't find it unusual loud or disturbing at all. And the autofocus is ok to me. Haven't tried to chase my kids yet but still.

Added some test shots (even a brick wall - although handheld..) in a gallery, will add more later.
http://www.blisspixels.com/Bliss/GM85/

Seems pretty ok wide open with regards to sharpness. All shots in gazing sun so just beware..
Haven't noticed before byt the bokeh balls at 1.4 are not really round even close to center in several shots i've taken, solved by 1.6 or 1.7 but still..
http://www.blisspixels.com/Bliss/Best/i-bKCtppQ/0/X2/20160419%20-_DSC8506-85%20mm-ISO%20100-1-3200%20sec%20at%20f%20-%201%2C4%20-%203238%20x%202160-X2.jpg

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Apr 19, 2016 at 03:18 AM
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p.25 #9 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


@charles.k about color and contrast: I see it the same like you. I made a profile for the GM and skin tones are wonderful and just perfect (with other lenses this was good too, but never that way). If I'm using a linear profile, there are a lot of details, I can work with. Both together gives me more possibilities to push files.

@thebratts about AF-sound: My copy is one of the louder ones, I think. But I made some tests: I shot in a church with silent mode. Also I took some pics at a grade ceremony. Then I was model for someone, that was using the GM85 and did a shooting with it by myself. I also handed it to another photographer to "just take some pics". In none of these situations someone looked puzzled, because of the AF-noise. The shutter release (if not in silent mode or of any DSLR) is much louder.



Apr 19, 2016 at 06:44 AM
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p.25 #10 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


GMPhotography wrote:
VC15 II. Loxia 21, GM 24-70, Sony 28 F2, Loxia 50, GM 85, Rokinon 135 and if that don't work i should just quit.


You bought another Loxia 50mm? I thought you ridded yourself of that jewel when you sold it to me. Better copy?


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Apr 19, 2016 at 08:28 AM
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p.25 #11 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


No cash flow to get these GMs but I'm back now. Lol

Freelancers life and sometimes it gets old. Lol



Apr 19, 2016 at 09:04 AM
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p.25 #12 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


GMPhotography wrote:
No cash flow to get these GMs but I'm back now. Lol

Freelancers life and sometimes it gets old. Lol


Guy - i imagine that instead of counting sheep, this is how you must fall asleep (re-arranging the lenses along the bottom):
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Batis-Loxia-Vergleich-3.jpg
(photo credit: Christian Dandyk)

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Apr 19, 2016 at 09:56 AM
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p.25 #13 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Lol. That's if I actually sleep. Funny I was looking at my Loxia 35 tests I did awhile back and have to say the corners where very good at 5.6. Be nice just to have the trio and call it a day with the zoom and 85. I'll wait that out though. I'm going to test the Loxia 50 and the Sony 28 against the zoom which I was not able to do in my initial tests. My zoom is damn good at 50mm so I'm wondering about that because a few said the 50 was better and I want to try it . I bought the 28 for the A6300 for the grand kids. I have a new one coming in like 3 weeks. I'm also losing interest in the Batis 18 as I feel it's not going to match the GMs like the Loxia glass does. Out of the Zeiss glass families I think the Loxia line will match up better to the GM lenses today and down the road. Today that Loxia 21 really matches the feel of the zoom very well.


Apr 19, 2016 at 09:58 AM
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p.25 #14 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Some testing at 1.4 100% crop
To short DOF really ....

http://www.blisspixels.com/Bliss/GM85/i-hvR984W/0/O/20160419%20-_DSC8583-85%20mm-ISO%20100-1-125%20sec%20at%20f%20-%201%2C6%20-%201969%20x%20717.jpg

http://www.blisspixels.com/Bliss/GM85/i-kQP85p8/0/M/20160419%20-_DSC8583-85%20mm-ISO%20100-1-125%20sec%20at%20f%20-%201%2C6%20-%207952%20x%205304-M.jpg



Apr 19, 2016 at 10:28 AM
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p.25 #15 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


thebratts wrote:
Some testing at 1.4 100% crop
To short DOF really ....

http://www.blisspixels.com/Bliss/GM85/i-hvR984W/0/O/20160419%20-_DSC8583-85%20mm-ISO%20100-1-125%20sec%20at%20f%20-%201%2C6%20-%201969%20x%20717.jpg

http://www.blisspixels.com/Bliss/GM85/i-kQP85p8/0/M/20160419%20-_DSC8583-85%20mm-ISO%20100-1-125%20sec%20at%20f%20-%201%2C6%20-%207952%20x%205304-M.jpg


If you think this is too short DOF, try shooting with the EF 85/1.2L without eyeAF.
In either case, I agree it's not easy to get both eyes in focus at this distance.
Fred



Apr 19, 2016 at 12:05 PM
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p.25 #16 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


F1.6 is the safe shot for stuff like this or even 1.7 . The bokeh is relatively the same. Kids are tough they move but try Eye AF it tracks very well.


Apr 19, 2016 at 12:43 PM
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p.25 #17 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Yeah, nice to see the bokeh being the same, even 2.0 is ok i think. so far Eye AF works very well, it's fast. Not Fe55 fast but not far off i think.



Apr 19, 2016 at 12:52 PM
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p.25 #18 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Fred Miranda wrote:
If you think this is too short DOF, try shooting with the EF 85/1.2L without eyeAF.
In either case, I agree it's not easy to get both eyes in focus at this distance.
Fred


And MF for the FD 85L But for whatever reason the contrast was perfect for the EVF on the A7--I got a ton of keepers with focus peaking, more than other 85s, and often more than AF 85s.



Apr 19, 2016 at 01:18 PM
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p.25 #19 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


Fred Miranda wrote:
If you think this is too short DOF, try shooting with the EF 85/1.2L without eyeAF.
In either case, I agree it's not easy to get both eyes in focus at this distance.
Fred


Often with the 85L II I revert to the "Advanced"mode with the MB IV for close detailed portraits. The focus is very quick and accurate as you can just use one finger on the focus ring to nail the focus point. No AF system will be critically accurate for these style of lenses wide open f/1.2 and at close distances.

I do find the eye AF with the GM 85 finds the near eye correctly and accurately focuses on the eye. The only issue I have is face recognition is that it will not always focus correctly for wide open f stops, as it will pick the eye brows or nose.




Apr 19, 2016 at 08:20 PM
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p.25 #20 · Sony 85mm 1.4 GM testing thread


In stock at B&H now


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