eleff wrote:
What setting do you use for BIF. I am photographing Eagles tomorrow at Conowingo Dam in Maryland with my 5dSR and was curious as to how your setting differ from the 5d3 settings.
I just spent a day photographing birds yesterday. I up the ISO slightly. I tend to use AI Servo mode with a small cluster of central AF points selected. I leave the camera in burst mode, but most often I simply hit the shutter briefly enough to make single exposures.
rdcny wrote:
Attached is a photo I shot yesterday which (to me) illustrates the problem with the Canon sensors/bodies that I have used (all except the 1Dx) - look at the left side of the head (shaded side) - no detail for most of that area. Could a Sony-designed sensor have done better in this situation? Solamente dios conoce'...
I would hardly call that a problem, but that is just me. I neither want, nor need, to see any detail from something that is black and in shadow. Sure prefer it to seeing where someone has pulled up the shadows and turns black into grey at the same time.
js426 wrote:
My personal experience with 7D2 is that the sensor demands very accurate exposure, otherwise there isn't much room to work with in post (LR), especially the shadow area.
That would mean no progress in 5 years since 7D was released. From what I've seen 7D II sensor is about a stop cleaner and files can be pushed harder, not that that means they can be pushed very far. Most reports put it similar to 1D IV which is miles better than 7D.
anscochrome wrote:
Tendency:The Camera Store=The Canon Hating Store
While I agree that sales numbers-- and that's essentially all TCS was talking about-- aren't all that relevant to the thread, and this really should NOT become another Canon vs. Sony thread, I think TCS does deserve a little defending here.
I don't see them as shills for any company, and I take their reviews as honest (the complete view provided in their 2-part Sony A7rII review was honest, and you could see them go from being thrilled to being a bit disappointed in a number of areas upon more extensive use scenarios) and not Canon hating.
Disagreeing with their opinions doesn't make them a shill.
I don't see the 5Ds battery life weakness (compared to the 5D3) an issue. Batteries are small.
I see it as an all-around well-improved camera with monster resolution and much better control of shadow noise/detail (compared to the 5D3).
If you're a Canon shooter, and like the size/form OVF of the 5-series cameras... there's not much to dislike about it!
I just learned a lesson. I've had a 28" Asus monitor that I thought was a great monitor. It finally died. so I went out to replace it. I wound up with a Samsung 32" 4K monitor. If you really want to see what a Canon 5DS R image looks like, display it on a 4K screen. Its' like night and day in appearance. I even went back to my 10D images and if I had this monitor then, I would probably never had purchased another camera. Do your self a favor and take some of your TIFs from any of your cameras to a local store and look at them on a 4K monitor, BUT be prepared to take one home.
Peter Figen wrote:
If I need to shoot video or very high ISO, then the 5D3's are still better, but not by much.
I find the 5dsr shoots better video than the 5d3, and I owned the 5d3 (still do) for 2+ years. It's just cleaner straight out of the camera. Only downside is no headphone jack. Of course Magic Lantern / raw does not exist for the 5dsr. But if forced to shoot video between the 5d3 and the 5dsr in 1080p24/30, I'd pick the 5dsr every time. Straight out of the camera footage is sharper, more detailed and less mushy. Haven't tried the 5ds.
Shawn
Bruce n Philly wrote:
Ok, now that the camera has been out for a while, are there any things that just are:
1) Just not right?
2) Expectations not met outcomes?
3) Disappointments?
For my style of shooting... no issues at all to report and it has exceeded my expectations. I've worked my way through the 5 series from the start and my 5Ds is by far the best camera I have owned.
Paul Gardner wrote:
For those of us whom only shoot stills the 5DS R is what we are looking for. If I wanted to shoot movies I would buy a movie camera.
Sorry you have such a narrow way of thinking. If you mean "movie camera" by camcorder, then I don't know about you, but I hate the "everything in focus" look. If you mean a large sensor camera, like the Sony fs700/fs7/fs5 or Canon C100/C300, you have to understand there are times when you don't want your subject to realize you're shooting video. Hard to sneak in a C300 into a NBA game, but I have some great footage of the 5d3 from the eastern conference finals a couple years ago.
I didn't buy the 5dsr for video shooting, but it's there and works great.
The 5Ds/R shares the same issue as the 7D2. Even properly exposed highlights lose detail and micro contrasts compared to the 1Dx. White objects in particular just go flat in comparison. Otherwise there is very little to criticize.
I shoot a lot of float planes with minor ripples in the sheetmetal that is very evident shooting with a 1Dx, yet virtually disappear with the 5Ds. (and 7D2) The micro contrasts are gone.
5Ds/R Colour profiling is essential if you use ACR. Adobe usually figures it out eventually but not so far.
Paul Gardner wrote:
I bet you believe being a paparatsie is OK also.
Regardless, spelling paparazzi (or paparazzo) that way is not OK... ;-)
Vancouver47 wrote:
The 5Ds/R shares the same issue as the 7D2. Even properly exposed highlights lose detail and micro contrasts compared to the 1Dx. White objects in particular just go flat in comparison. Otherwise there is very little to criticize.
I shoot a lot of float planes with minor ripples in the sheetmetal that is very evident shooting with a 1Dx, yet virtually disappear with the 5Ds. (and 7D2) The micro contrasts are gone.
5Ds/R Colour profiling is essential if you use ACR. Adobe usually figures it out eventually but not so far.
If you think you are losing highlight detail, a common issue with digital media since due to its linear response...
1. You may well be overexposing slightly. Careful exposure will lead you to decrease exposure slightly and retain more highlight detail in almost all cases.
2. Use the highlights fader in post and simply lower it a bit. If your exposure lead to lost highlight detail on a regular basis you may want to bake this in to your default conversion preset.
For my part, I'm not seeing the kind of "problem" with highlights that you describe. Your statement that "the micro contrasts are gone" doesn't ring true at all.
Regardless, spelling paparazzi (or paparazzo) that way is not OK... ;-)
Neither is embarrassing someone by correcting their spelling in public. Why not a PM and give them a chance to correct it. That would have been the polite thing to do.
Paul Gardner wrote:
For those of us whom only shoot stills the 5DS R is what we are looking for. If I wanted to shoot movies I would buy a movie camera.
Amen..I have said this for many years since Canon started video on DSLR's. Save the memory for better AF, better IQ, better photography not video.
Dan
Mickey wrote:
Neither is embarrassing someone by correcting their spelling in public.
Did you not see the smiley?
Dan,
who enjoyed Petkal's tongue-in-cheek post about my silly typo just yesterday after I urged someone to consider a "17-5mm lens," and who found his comment funny rather than embarrassing. ;-)
gdanmitchell wrote:
Regardless, spelling paparazzi (or paparazzo) that way is not OK... ;-)
If you think you are losing highlight detail, a common issue with digital media since due to its linear response...
1. You may well be overexposing slightly. Careful exposure will lead you to decrease exposure slightly and retain more highlight detail in almost all cases.
2. Use the highlights fader in post and simply lower it a bit. If your exposure lead to lost highlight detail on a regular basis you may want to bake this in to your default conversion preset.
For my part, I'm not seeing the kind of "problem" with highlights that you describe. Your statement that "the micro contrasts are gone" doesn't ring true at all....Show more →
1 I am aware of the problem and deliberately ensure I do not overexpose whites., Camera highlight warning is never blinking yet highlights are flat with the 5ds.
2 Doesn't help. It just makes when whites flatter.
Even with "blinking highlights" the 1Dx displays far better micro contrasts in the whites.
The first three photos were taken with the 5Ds and are typical, the last two with a 1Dx.
