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Nicely done. You should post that in the TS-E images thread to get it back on the front page


Dec 08, 2015 at 02:50 PM
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I drive by The Peterson every time I go to Samy's Camera and have been waiting for the fence to come down, which it finally has. Another unique piece of Los Angeles architecture, which is right across the street from the old May Co. deco building, now part of the L.A. County Museum. A very cool and historic part of L.A.


Dec 08, 2015 at 02:55 PM
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Fast6 wrote:
Nicely done. You should post that in the TS-E images thread to get it back on the front page


Thanks for the reminder! Done.



Dec 08, 2015 at 04:08 PM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Please share your 17 TSE images


1DsIII, 17mm ts-e. Location well known.







Dec 08, 2015 at 04:18 PM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Please share your 17 TSE images


I miss to go out and do photography, even miss a lot using my new lens, TS-E 17 and even another new lens TS-E 24II, both lenses blown my mind with the shift and tilt functions, and how sharp both lenses are, those lenses made me hating to shoot anything wide with another lenses, but at the end they are just primes where i don't depends on primes much.

I hope by next year i can have more subjects to shoot with my TS-E to post here, but i know that i will never have something nice interesting as pics here, shame me!



Dec 09, 2015 at 09:18 PM
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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · Please share your 17 TSE images


Here's an quick, and I do mean quick, interior I banged out a couple of weeks ago for a client. Three horizontal shots with the 17 t/s stitched for that wonderful 12-13mm equivalent. The client did the ceilings, so we were trying to show that in context. The lens stood up very well on the 5DSR when shifted vertically on the horizontal frame - even down to the corners.







Dec 09, 2015 at 10:51 PM
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Same vacation, very different subject matter

















Dec 09, 2015 at 11:32 PM
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Thanks for posting these, Stan, brought up nice memories from my Budapest vacation. Our hotel was 100m away from the above castle.
More examples from the 17 TSE:
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/tse17_16.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/tse17_15.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/tse17_12.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/tse17_11.jpg
http://www.paintingwithlight.de/FilesEx/tse17_10.jpg



Apr 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM
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Thanks for sharing the images. I am currently rethinking my camera and lens lineup, primarily for landscape photography. The TS-17mm is certainly on my "wish list". This thread isn't helping me resist the urge to purchase one! - BLR


Apr 29, 2016 at 05:08 PM
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Nice photos but is it just me seeing some photos having too much perspective correction applied?


Apr 29, 2016 at 06:07 PM
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tuantran wrote:
Nice photos but is it just me seeing some photos having too much perspective correction applied?


There's a fine line between 'technically correct' and 'what it really looks like'. The issue is related to perception; when you're standing in front of something big, and look up, the parallels converge, but 'not as much as' when you point a camera up at the same angle, and you then view the resulting photograph.

Also, when you eliminate perspective distortion, it starts to look like a designer's drawing (e.g. plan view, profile view, buttock lines, etc.), but with a typical small format shift lens, you can only modify perspective on one axis (i.e. vertical or horizontal).

The second-last image posted by Ulff (with the beautiful grey tones) is an example where vertical perspective distortion has been eliminated, but horizontal perspective distortion remains. A combination of rise and shift (vertical and horizontal) movements could modify both vertical and horizontal perspectives, but that capability is pretty much relegated to MF and LF view cameras (and bellows systems), and it has practical limits.

This effect is similar to what I encounter when using PP to correct perspective distortion from a 'normal' lens pointed upwards; it's easy (at the cost of many pixels and some resolution) to make diverging vertical lines get "back to parallel", but the image then seems too stretched-up, and so I have to scale down the vertical dimension. Also, it's often useful to make those vertical lines somewhat less than vertical, that way I can still perceive that it's something tall, out there in front of me, not a flat drawing (i.e. it's useful to preserve vanishing lines).

FWIW.



Apr 29, 2016 at 06:34 PM
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But some photos, the top seems to be "more corrected" or bulging outward. Maybe on purpose?


Apr 29, 2016 at 10:10 PM
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tuantran wrote:
But some photos, the top seems to be "more corrected" or bulging outward. Maybe on purpose?


I think that's because the vertical vanishing lines have been removed by making them parallel in the photo. Your brain knows that you would see some convergence if you were actually there at the scene, and so the 'full width' top of the building seems too wide, and it seems to bulge. I think this is evident in the stadium photo in the last image posted by Markus.



Apr 30, 2016 at 06:27 AM
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The TS17 is my most used/enjoyed lens for landscape. After using it for landscape and avoiding the bowed trees - I have declined to purchase the 11-24 and 16-35/f4 because I just would not use them. And I rarely even use my zeiss 15/2.8. It is a joy to use.

And in a pinch the ts17 works well with the 1.4x too to avoid carrying or buying two lens.




Mount Assiniboine from Last Summer after spending the night on the Ridge




Apr 30, 2016 at 02:54 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
I think that's because the vertical vanishing lines have been removed by making them parallel in the photo. Your brain knows that you would see some convergence if you were actually there at the scene, and so the 'full width' top of the building seems too wide, and it seems to bulge. I think this is evident in the stadium photo in the last image posted by Markus.


I see fully "corrected" images the same way — the upper part of the building will look unnaturally huge, especially in cases when the photograph is not a two-dimensional straight-on view.

Most often when I "correct" perspective convergence lines I actually just move then toward the supposed perfect vertical, rather than moving them all the way. The right adjustment does then become a somewhat subjective matter, but I'm fine with that.

I think this approach can be generalized to other aspects of photography, too. For example, when we photograph something, especially if it is white, under the blue sky it can look very blue in a photograph. Technically speaking, it was just as blue at the time of the exposure, but when we see it in a photograph rather than "in the flesh," we are perhaps less influenced by what we expect it to be.

The eye/brain system does many remarkable things. One of them is to consider context when evaluating things like color. When we see snow we "know" that it is white, so we essentially discount or overlook the objectively blue color when we are on the scene and we "see" the supposedly white thing that is actually blue as being a white thing. Yet, the subliminal blue color is part of what give the snow its character, so turning it perfectly white in post also looks phony. Solution? Move that perceptively over-blue color towards white, but not all the way.

Dan



Apr 30, 2016 at 03:37 PM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
I see fully "corrected" images the same way — the upper part of the building will look unnaturally huge, especially in cases when the photograph is not a two-dimensional straight-on view.

Most often when I "correct" perspective convergence lines I actually just move then toward the supposed perfect vertical, rather than moving them all the way. The right adjustment does then become a somewhat subjective matter, but I'm fine with that.


+1

Aside from the money you spend, pretty much everything about photography is subjective.



Apr 30, 2016 at 03:45 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
+1

Aside from the money you spend, pretty much everything about photography is subjective.


That's how I see it, at least when it comes to the interesting parts. :-)



May 01, 2016 at 08:41 PM
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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · Please share your 17 TSE images


Many wonderful pics in this thread. I used to own this lens but my complete lack of talent caused me to sell it.


May 01, 2016 at 09:27 PM
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I just shared this one on the Spring thread

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cityscapes/i-nDkk3gC/0/O/8F0A9546-HDR-Edit.jpg



May 02, 2016 at 09:14 AM
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I took some photos this weekend using my shiny new 16-35mm f/4L IS at 16mm and with my Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 and wow, after seeing this thread, I could NOT for the life of me ignore the distortion in the buildings. I tried correcting the perspective in Photoshop, which made the buildings look great, but lost me a lot of resolution in the image. My wife prefers the unedited distorted buildings. I'm torn on which I prefer. I wonder how they would have looked with the 17 TSE lens instead of the 16-35mm's distortion.


May 02, 2016 at 10:43 AM
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