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What is your technique to blur them out? I've tried gaussian blur (1.0) and it seems to make it cleaner but it softens them too much.


Sorry, I think "anti-sharpness" would be a better term.

I do it in LR, using the correction brush (done same way in ACR). I set the sharpness to a negative value, paint over the onion and adjust slider strength as necessary. Then, if needed, I de-saturate or adjust the color.



Dec 15, 2015 at 05:18 PM
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dandrewk wrote:
Sorry, I think "anti-sharpness" would be a better term.

I do it in LR, using the correction brush (done same way in ACR). I set the sharpness to a negative value, paint over the onion and adjust slider strength as necessary. Then, if needed, I de-saturate or adjust the color.


It does a great job. Lessening sharpness and clarity using a the Adjustment Brush gave me the best results. The best thing about it having 'auto mask' 'On' so only the inside gets affected. Quick and easy.

Here is the before and after:







Dec 15, 2015 at 05:47 PM
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p.49 #3 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Nice


Dec 15, 2015 at 06:05 PM
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Have we officially jumped the shark in photo nerdom with airbrushing bokeh?...the improvement does indeed look nice!


Dec 15, 2015 at 06:26 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Have we officially jumped the shark in photo nerdom with airbrushing bokeh?...the improvement does indeed look nice!


We correct for CA, distortion and vignetting. Why not for onions?

Try it, it's fun!




Dec 15, 2015 at 07:43 PM
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I'm wondering if I used the spot tool in C1 . Have to try it. I think C1 has a adjustment brush. Hmmm

BTW nice fix in LR looks really nice



Dec 15, 2015 at 08:06 PM
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Did anyone else see this startling announcement?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-rx1rii-production-halted/

Sony is halting production of the RX1R2. Apparently they see an issue with AF consistency. Does anyone have any problems with theirs? I was planning to order one within a couple weeks and now wonder if I should place my order today to get one while (and if) I can.



Dec 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM
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That site has click-bait titles like that more often than not, like Petapixel.

I would think nothing of it outside of the context of the Japanese market (where the announcement is made) and the fact that an "anonymous" source allegedly said it's because of AF inconsistencies. It could just be the SAR saying that for what I care.

Also there is some people there arguing that SAR chose the wrong word in the title and that "halt" is not it, but "postponed" is more correct.



Dec 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM
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I did think it was odd that they claimed there were AF problems. I haven't seen anyone complain about that anywhere on the interwebs.

And now I see that the article is changed claiming a 'delay', whereas it flatly said "halt" before.



Dec 17, 2015 at 11:15 AM
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p.49 #10 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1403379/1#13335552


Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 PM
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I like my onions uncooked, thanks.


Dec 17, 2015 at 01:05 PM
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I did think it was odd that they claimed there were AF problems. I haven't seen anyone complain about that anywhere on the interwebs.

And now I see that the article is changed claiming a 'delay', whereas it flatly said "halt" before.


Possibly related to this?



http://diglloyd.com/blog/2015/20151210_2222-SonyRX1R_II-PescaderoCreek.html



Dec 17, 2015 at 03:12 PM
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Possibly related to this?

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2015/20151210_2222-SonyRX1R_II-PescaderoCreek.html


Lloyd really finds things difficult that other people don't seem to have a problem with.

What is he saying here? He focused using AF or MF, not clear, verified with magnified view and did an aperture series where he changed aperture using the aperture ring and somehow the series was ruined. Did he really change aperture using the ring and not recheck his focus in case he might have accidentally moved the focus ring a little?? Sounds like pilot error. How would this be an AF problem?






Dec 17, 2015 at 03:18 PM
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Lloyd really finds things difficult that other people don't seem to have a problem with.

What is he saying here? He focused using AF or MF, not clear, verified with magnified view and did an aperture series where he changed aperture using the aperture ring and somehow the series was ruined. Did he really change aperture using the ring and not recheck his focus in case he might have accidentally moved the focus ring a little?? Sounds like pilot error. How would this be an AF problem?



why would AF even be on to do an aperture series like that?

my classic seems to change focus when it goes to sleep and wakes up, perhaps it was sleeping between shots? sounds like Fred's new version doesn't do that though.

the lens certainly has some focus shift though, that would be my first bet.




Dec 17, 2015 at 03:48 PM
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Mike Kobal --


""Sony discovered static interference caused by the variable low pass filter, a built up over time which can cause purple, green and blue dots at discharge and ruin your pictures, they are trying to solve the problem and resume production by the end of the year. In the mean time you can try grounding the camera by holding it with metal gloves wired with AWG THHN electric wire along the body down to your shoes, make sure the wire is in direct contact with the ground at the time of image capture.""



Dec 17, 2015 at 04:26 PM
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Jeff Kott wrote:
Lloyd really finds things difficult that other people don't seem to have a problem with.

What is he saying here? He focused using AF or MF, not clear, verified with magnified view and did an aperture series where he changed aperture using the aperture ring and somehow the series was ruined. Did he really change aperture using the ring and not recheck his focus in case he might have accidentally moved the focus ring a little?? Sounds like pilot error. How would this be an AF problem?



I would not dismiss his finding so quick. I found his comment about Leica quite true, for example, Leica S AF performance. you can see lots of Leica people complain and laugh at him, but he actually gain my respect for that matter because he really understand the issue, and what is going on here.

I also would guess about focus shift, but I think he might find some thing interesting here. say how sony camera do AF focus. I myself did a few testing with 16-35mm FE lens on A7R and finding some annoyance as well, for example: when the lens stop do VR thing (it did at around 1/500) and how the camera select focus aperture, set effect on will focus at shooting aperture, and set effect off will not shooting WO but f8 which is to my huge surprise. Depend on the lighting, this keep change. Good job, sony, can I have some control for my own camera in field? Can I turn off the fxxking VR if I don't use it? I believe RX1 might do something similar. I did test long time ago but didn't remember how it choose focusing aperture anymore.




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Dec 17, 2015 at 04:59 PM
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ChrClowes wrote:
Mike Kobal --

""Sony discovered static interference caused by the variable low pass filter, a built up over time which can cause purple, green and blue dots at discharge and ruin your pictures, they are trying to solve the problem and resume production by the end of the year. In the mean time you can try grounding the camera by holding it with metal gloves wired with AWG THHN electric wire along the body down to your shoes, make sure the wire is in direct contact with the ground at the time of image capture.""


you realize that was parody, right?



Dec 17, 2015 at 04:59 PM
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Sshhh

We all need some Friday comedic relief

JoeFriday wrote:
you realize that was parody, right?




Dec 17, 2015 at 05:13 PM
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read again LLoyd's post, I guess there were a few potential issue here:
1. change aperture might accidentally change focusing ring. Highly possible. but is it unavoidable due to coupling or just too close to each other so hand touch?
2. Focusing shift
3. Focusing engine, how AF decide it is achieve focus lock? what is the margin for that at different aperture if you choose focusing aperture the same as your shooting aperture?



Dec 17, 2015 at 05:16 PM
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zhangyue wrote:
read again LLoyd's post, I guess there were a few potential issue here:
1. change aperture might accidentally change focusing ring. Highly possible. but is it unavoidable due to coupling or just too close to each other so hand touch?


The aperture ring is far from the focusing ring.

2. Focusing shift

Residual spherical aberration is not an issue with the Sonnar 35/2. I found no focus shift. (RX1R owners can confirm this)

3. Focusing engine, how AF decide it is achieve focus lock? what is the margin for that at different aperture if you choose focusing aperture the same as your shooting aperture?

I would never used AF when doing an aperture series test.

I found this passage amusing though:

"Frustrating as heck, and I despise cameras that damage my work in spite of far more care than most users would ever take.".....



Dec 17, 2015 at 05:24 PM
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