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p.37 #1 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Welcome and congratulations, Cyborg!


Nov 23, 2015 at 04:56 AM
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p.37 #2 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


ggab wrote:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2015/11/19/sony-rx1r-mark-ii-detail-test-shots-with-crops/


I wish he would post a set without so much JPEG sharpening.

Sal



Nov 23, 2015 at 09:35 AM
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p.37 #3 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


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Hi all fellow photo-enthusiasts! I have been a long time lurker on this boards and really appreciate all the great information here on the site. I`m expecting my Rx1r2 camera tomorrow! My local dealer just called me. Can`t wait to get my hands on it!


This thread and the image thread are about to light up!



Nov 23, 2015 at 12:16 PM
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p.37 #4 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


DPR Samples are up with a number of infinity shots:

< http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0148454041/sony-cyber-shot-rx1r-ii-real-world-sample-gallery-posted >



Nov 23, 2015 at 02:42 PM
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shelt wrote:
DPR Samples are up with a number of infinity shots:

< http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0148454041/sony-cyber-shot-rx1r-ii-real-world-sample-gallery-posted >


NO NO NO NO NO!

Do not show me this!!!!!



Nov 23, 2015 at 02:53 PM
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p.37 #6 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


nampramos wrote:
NO NO NO NO NO!

Do not show me this!!!!!


In particular, stay away from the shots with the creamy smooth bokeh.



Nov 23, 2015 at 03:00 PM
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Here's a YouTube clip from slrclub that shows the different AF modes. It's in Korean but what's good to note is when he's demonstrating DMF you can clearly see that peaking works in non-magnified mode as well ( around 1:45)



Nov 26, 2015 at 01:58 PM
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p.37 #8 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


TMaG82 wrote:



Here's a YouTube clip from slrclub that shows the different AF modes. It's in Korean but what's good to note is when he's demonstrating DMF you can clearly see that peaking works in non-magnified mode as well ( around 1:45)


That is great news as it was a big complain on the previous model.



Nov 26, 2015 at 02:08 PM
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Hopefully peaking has improved to where whats highlighted actually is what is in focus. I think its naturally tougher with a wider angle, thus more DoF, but I've found that with all the Sony's I've owned so far, that even when I rack the focus back and forth and try to centered the peaked parts of the image, that when I then zoom in to check focus its usually way off. Its like the point of critical focus is somewhere in the part of the frame that shows the peaked color, BUT, you don't know where.

I have found it to work okay with a fast tele, where the plane of focus is super slim, but for anything 50mm or wider, I find I'm only actually having much luck about 25% of the time with it. Instead I'm either just trying to judge the focus from the sharpness maxed out, or zooming in, or just shooting hyperfocal.

Peaking is a really cool concept, but just seems to miss the critical accuracy to make it actually work in the real world, at least for me.

Eventually it should get there though I hope



Nov 26, 2015 at 03:03 PM
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millsart wrote:

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Peaking is a really cool concept, but just seems to miss the critical accuracy to make it actually work in the real world, at least for me.


I have the same experience. Lucky thing in this case is that really exact focusing with a 35/2.0 lens isn't as important as with a longer faster lens.

My main problem with the RX2 is that the EVF is a pop-up model. I would have considered buying the camera if they had made the EVF work like it does on the Panasonic GX8. Now I'll stick to the RX1 with the tiltable add-on EVF (also, the flash is a good thing sometimes). Hopefully it will survive until the RX3 comes and Sony "got it right".



Nov 26, 2015 at 03:37 PM
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Jonas B wrote:
My main problem with the RX2 is that the EVF is a pop-up model. I would have considered buying the camera if they had made the EVF work like it does on the Panasonic GX8. Now I'll stick to the RX1 with the tiltable add-on EVF (also, the flash is a good thing sometimes). Hopefully it will survive until the RX3 comes and Sony "got it right".


I'd rather have an A6000 or GX8 styled EVF if that could have been accomplished without increasing the size of the RX1, but I doubt that would be possible without making some other tradeoffs like decreasing the size of the LCD. I think Sony "got it right" with the RX1Rii, and made the best compromises for what I'm looking for.



Nov 26, 2015 at 05:23 PM
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The RX1rII will certainly slide into lots of small bags/pouches a lot easier thanks to the retractable EVF.

I liked the tilt feature of the original accessory EVF, but, the camera suddenly felt twice as big when it was mounted and you tried to stash it. Just didn't fit into any of the same spaces it did without, and also felt a bit fragile as well.



Nov 26, 2015 at 06:37 PM
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Jonas B wrote:
millsart wrote:
I have the same experience. Lucky thing in this case is that really exact focusing with a 35/2.0 lens isn't as important as with a longer faster lens.

My main problem with the RX2 is that the EVF is a pop-up model. I would have considered buying the camera if they had made the EVF work like it does on the Panasonic GX8. Now I'll stick to the RX1 with the tiltable add-on EVF (also, the flash is a good thing sometimes). Hopefully it will survive until the RX3 comes and Sony "got it right".


There's no reason you can't use the EVF on the II if you really like the tilt feature. I never used it on the old one, as I didn't want to pay $400+ for an add on and I recall reading horror stories about them falling off. That one of the things I noted about shooting with the x100 series, after adding on a thumb grip, soft release, etc, I was constantly checking to make sure my $70 thumb grip didn't fall off since it had a tendency to shift and my soft release fell off twice. At least with the Sony thumb grip that I picked up used, it has a lock to secure it.



Nov 26, 2015 at 08:19 PM
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There's no reason you can't use the EVF on the II if you really like the tilt feature.


But then he couldn't use a flash.

I'm sure if you asked 100 potential users of the RX1Rii if they would prefer the external EVF to the pop up, a few would. But, I expect that would be a small minority.



Nov 26, 2015 at 08:33 PM
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Jeff Kott wrote:
But then he couldn't use a flash.

I'm sure if you asked 100 potential users of the RX1Rii if they would prefer the external EVF to the pop up, a few would. But, I expect that would be a small minority.



I find the pop-up flash pretty handy, as being a leaf shutter, it can actually sync at high speeds, and as such, provide a decent little fill flash for when at the beach, people are wearing hats etc.

I actually would of liked to replace the hot shoe with a pop-up flash, and then have the pop-up EVF next to it, ala the RX100 series.

Not like I'm really going to walk around with a big speed light on the RX1.

For studio stuff, they could add a PC sync jack to the ports on the side, or just trigger via optical from the pop-up flash, which is actually how I used to do some overpowering the sun lighting effects with my studio lights and original RX1.



Nov 26, 2015 at 08:54 PM
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p.37 #16 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


The small Sony flash, and the upcoming (more powerful) Metz are very small. They will supply an abundance of fill light for those situations when you need it.


Nov 26, 2015 at 09:52 PM
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dandrewk wrote:
The small Sony flash, and the upcoming (more powerful) Metz are very small. They will supply an abundance of fill light for those situations when you need it.


Question is will they allow the EVF to still pop-up when mounted in the hot shoe....



Nov 26, 2015 at 11:59 PM
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p.37 #18 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Good question. I'm thinking yes, as this would be consideration for a hot shoe location. No point of even having a hot shoe if it prohibited usage of the EVF.

I'll know tomorrow.



Nov 27, 2015 at 12:39 AM
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Jonas B wrote:
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I have the same experience. Lucky thing in this case is that really exact focusing with a 35/2.0 lens isn't as important as with a longer faster lens.

My main problem with the RX2 is that the EVF is a pop-up model. I would have considered buying the camera if they had made the EVF work like it does on the Panasonic GX8. Now I'll stick to the RX1 with the tiltable add-on EVF (also, the flash is a good thing sometimes). Hopefully it will survive until the RX3 comes and Sony "got it right".


I went to the Sony Store in Tokyo to compare the old external EVF with the RX1R2 EVF. I was always quite happy with my tiltable EVF, but when compared to the new EVF, it felt really dark and dull. The new EVF is very bright with much better clarity. It was literally night-and-day. I can never go back to the old EVF.



Nov 27, 2015 at 12:53 AM
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p.37 #20 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


For those of you who want it now but didn't preorder, I just grabbed one from Cameta. Normally I'm against extended warranties of all kinds, especially those from Mack. But couldn't help myself grabbing a 5 yr one that's serviced by Cameta and protects accidental damage as well. After hearing horror stories abou Precision camera and not wanting to get stuck with a $600 repair bill, figure the cost of the warranty is less than the sales tax I would've paid if I went through Amazon to buy.


Nov 27, 2015 at 03:50 PM
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