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Archive 2015Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
p.66 #1Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Mnd1 wrote:
After trying to return the lens to Zeiss for realignment I failed.
The official declaration from Zeiss in Germany is-
Thanks for your feedback.
We never had any de-centered lens of this type. All problems were caused by focusing issues.
So there you have it folks. No problem with the Loxia 21mm at all, ever. You were obviously not using them correctly and all the problems were your fault.
In all seriousness I wanted to send it back and have it fixed as did Fred. I think Fred got the excellent service response from Zeiss he did because he has a photographic forum with...Show more →
I got the same reaction from them. Frustrating.
Luckily my third copy is good enough now.
After trying to return the lens to Zeiss for realignment I failed.
The official declaration from Zeiss in Germany is-
Thanks for your feedback.
We never had any de-centered lens of this type. All problems were caused by focusing issues.
So there you have it folks. No problem with the Loxia 21mm at all, ever. You were obviously not using them correctly and all the problems were your fault.
In all seriousness I wanted to send it back and have it fixed as did Fred. I think Fred got the excellent service response from Zeiss he did because he has a photographic forum with...Show more →
I got the same reaction from them. Frustrating.
Luckily my third copy is good enough now.
May 13, 2016 at 03:44 AM
p.66 #2Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Thanks Jochen. I have no experience in sending stuff back to Zeiss so I made a mistake in contacting them. I've only sent stuff back to Nikon where they encourage you to contact them first. I love the size of the Loxia but I'm not going to get another for a good while.
May 13, 2016 at 04:08 AM
p.66 #3Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I've used a Breakthrough Photo CPL and haven't noticed any real problems. but I have not specifically tried to assess whether it adds to the vignetting. I know it doesn't hard vignette though.
-Tim
NIH NSF wrote:
My 52mm B+W HTC KSM CPL seems to worsen the vignette of Loxia 21, any remedies or alternatives?
May 13, 2016 at 06:21 AM
p.66 #4Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
tsdevine wrote:
I've used a Breakthrough Photo CPL and haven't noticed any real problems. but I have not specifically tried to assess whether it adds to the vignetting. I know it doesn't hard vignette though.
-Tim
I've used a 6-stop ND on my Loxia 21/2.8 and although it does not hard vignette, it increases vignetting considerably. A 10-stop is unusable IMO.
That's one of the reasons I decided using Lee's Seven5 with it.
I've used a Breakthrough Photo CPL and haven't noticed any real problems. but I have not specifically tried to assess whether it adds to the vignetting. I know it doesn't hard vignette though.
-Tim
NIH NSF wrote
My 52mm B+W HTC KSM CPL seems to worsen the vignette of Loxia 21, any remedies or alternatives?I've used a 6-stop ND on my Loxia 21/2.8 and although it does not hard vignette, it increases vignetting considerably. A 10-stop is unusable IMO.
That's one of the reasons I decided using Lee's Seven5 with it.
May 13, 2016 at 10:47 AM
p.66 #5Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I've only used an 3 stop ND + CPL. For my shooting I tend to always use a CPL in combination with an ND (or CPL alone). I haven't used any stronger NDs, but given the uses above, I've not run into any serious problems.
-Tim
May 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM
p.66 #6Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
That being said, I'm using the thinnest filters I can get. In fact I'm going to try a slightly thinner ND that I'm getting today. It should reduce vignetting even more. Although I could live with it with the Loxia 21. For the CV 15, I'm hoping this new filter will lessen vignetting as I currently notice it more with my current setup I use for that lens.
-Tim
May 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM
p.66 #7Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Mnd1 wrote:
Thanks Jochen. I have no experience in sending stuff back to Zeiss so I made a mistake in contacting them. I've only sent stuff back to Nikon where they encourage you to contact them first. I love the size of the Loxia but I'm not going to get another for a good while.
In my case I didn't contact them first I just sent the lens back with some sample files and that way they would have to deal with it
Thanks Jochen. I have no experience in sending stuff back to Zeiss so I made a mistake in contacting them. I've only sent stuff back to Nikon where they encourage you to contact them first. I love the size of the Loxia but I'm not going to get another for a good while.
In my case I didn't contact them first I just sent the lens back with some sample files and that way they would have to deal with it
May 13, 2016 at 11:00 AM
p.66 #8Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Anyone else noticed something weird with connection to the body? I have been getting many Camera Error messages when Loxia is attached to the body but does not happen with MB4 + 90mm TS-E.
Camera also says that I should power off and on to fix the issue. Sometimes it works, sometimes I get the same error. I thought that IBIS mechanism is stuck or somesuch failure but this only happens with the Loxia.
Camera also says that I should power off and on to fix the issue. Sometimes it works, sometimes I get the same error. I thought that IBIS mechanism is stuck or somesuch failure but this only happens with the Loxia.
May 15, 2016 at 05:00 PM
p.66 #9Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
MJKoski wrote:
Anyone else noticed something weird with connection to the body? I have been getting many Camera Error messages when Loxia is attached to the body but does not happen with MB4 + 90mm TS-E.
Camera also says that I should power off and on to fix the issue. Sometimes it works, sometimes I get the same error. I thought that IBIS mechanism is stuck or somesuch failure but this only happens with the Loxia.
This error is usually caused by the lens not making a proper electrical contact with the camera. Try checking and cleaning the lens contacts. Can you induce the error by pushing sideways on the lens while it is mounted?
Anyone else noticed something weird with connection to the body? I have been getting many Camera Error messages when Loxia is attached to the body but does not happen with MB4 + 90mm TS-E.
Camera also says that I should power off and on to fix the issue. Sometimes it works, sometimes I get the same error. I thought that IBIS mechanism is stuck or somesuch failure but this only happens with the Loxia.
This error is usually caused by the lens not making a proper electrical contact with the camera. Try checking and cleaning the lens contacts. Can you induce the error by pushing sideways on the lens while it is mounted?
May 15, 2016 at 08:58 PM
p.66 #10Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Yeaah. I cleaned the contacts with alcohol based cleaner. No errors since then 
Other matters then, it seems that the best way to mount/unmount the lens is to first roll the aperture and focus rings into the direction you will rotate the lens when mounting/unmounting. Maybe this is obvious, dunno. Just not used to grab moving parts to mount a lens to a camera body.
Other matters then, it seems that the best way to mount/unmount the lens is to first roll the aperture and focus rings into the direction you will rotate the lens when mounting/unmounting. Maybe this is obvious, dunno. Just not used to grab moving parts to mount a lens to a camera body.
May 20, 2016 at 05:55 AM
p.66 #11Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Glad to hear it was just dirty contacts.
As for mounting the lens, I just grab everything (both rings and the fixed bit) at the same time and give the lot a twist. Maybe my fit is not as tight as others, but it turns without a lot of force and clicks in place. One or both rings might hit the hard stop, but there isn't a huge amount of torque needed.
As for mounting the lens, I just grab everything (both rings and the fixed bit) at the same time and give the lot a twist. Maybe my fit is not as tight as others, but it turns without a lot of force and clicks in place. One or both rings might hit the hard stop, but there isn't a huge amount of torque needed.
May 20, 2016 at 12:11 PM
p.66 #12Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Anyone other than me having issues with the hood falling off just from carrying camera around. I was out in Moab Utah, and hood fell off 3-4 times just from hiking around. I have never had this issue on any previous ZE or ZF lens, but a big problem on my Loxia 21mm,
Is it just mine? Just 21mm? or a known Loxia problem?
Bill
Is it just mine? Just 21mm? or a known Loxia problem?
Bill
May 21, 2016 at 04:36 PM
p.66 #13Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Hasn't happend to mine yet.
-Tim
May 21, 2016 at 04:38 PM
p.66 #14Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Mine fell off the other night. Not happy about it either . I may rig something to make it fit tighter
May 21, 2016 at 05:36 PM
p.66 #15Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
To be honest, I like plastic hoods. Every time I reverse the hood and attach, I feel like any misalignment will scrape the body of the lens. Plus all the metal Zeiss hoods I've had with flocking eventually starts peeling off and the metal is shiny underneath.
But unless someone makes an aftermarket hood that attaches like the Zeiss, not sure what other real options there are.
-Tim
May 21, 2016 at 06:02 PM
p.66 #16Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
billsnature wrote:
Anyone other than me having issues with the hood falling off just from carrying camera around. I was out in Moab Utah, and hood fell off 3-4 times just from hiking around. I have never had this issue on any previous ZE or ZF lens, but a big problem on my Loxia 21mm,
Is it just mine? Just 21mm? or a known Loxia problem?
Bill
+1
The hood does have an issue as it does not securely lock into place. This is not like the Loxia 35 or 50 version hoods. I would be very happy with a polymer hood with rubber on the edge to absorb bumps like the GM 85.
Edited on May 21, 2016 at 07:49 PM · View previous versions
Anyone other than me having issues with the hood falling off just from carrying camera around. I was out in Moab Utah, and hood fell off 3-4 times just from hiking around. I have never had this issue on any previous ZE or ZF lens, but a big problem on my Loxia 21mm,
Is it just mine? Just 21mm? or a known Loxia problem?
Bill
+1
The hood does have an issue as it does not securely lock into place. This is not like the Loxia 35 or 50 version hoods. I would be very happy with a polymer hood with rubber on the edge to absorb bumps like the GM 85.
Edited on May 21, 2016 at 07:49 PM · View previous versions
May 21, 2016 at 06:28 PM
p.66 #17Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
charles.K wrote:
Is it just mine? Just 21mm? or a known Loxia problem?
Bill+1
The hood does have an issue as it does not securely locks into place. This is not like the Loxia 35 or 50 version hoods. I would be very happy with a polymer hood with rubber on the edge to absorb bumps like the GM 85.
I just wrap mine in gaffer's tape. Keeps it from getting scratched up or scratching the lens body and provides a small amount of extra protection in case of bumps.
billsnature wrote
Anyone other than me having issues with the hood falling off just from carrying camera around. I was out in Moab Utah, and hood fell off 3-4 times just from hiking around. I have never had this issue on any previous ZE or ZF lens, but a big problem on my Loxia 21mm,Is it just mine? Just 21mm? or a known Loxia problem?
Bill
The hood does have an issue as it does not securely locks into place. This is not like the Loxia 35 or 50 version hoods. I would be very happy with a polymer hood with rubber on the edge to absorb bumps like the GM 85.
I just wrap mine in gaffer's tape. Keeps it from getting scratched up or scratching the lens body and provides a small amount of extra protection in case of bumps.
May 21, 2016 at 07:21 PM
p.66 #18Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
The hood on my Loxia 21 does lock in place but it's too easy to unlock it.
May 21, 2016 at 07:31 PM
p.66 #19Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Indeed. The hood sucks big time. It takes so little force to accidentally unlock it. On the other hand, it is quite clever design. When reversed it covers the lens cap edges so it does not unpinch itself.
May 22, 2016 at 02:23 AM
p.66 #20Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Lets recap about the Loxia 21mm.
Lots of poor copies out there with alignment issues.
Abysmal customer service on at least a couple of occasions.
Poor separation between focussing ring and aperture ring.
Difficulty mounting and dismounting from camera due to sealing ring.
Poor design of lens hood.
Have I missed anything?
The value of my 21mm Distagon keeps going up and up.
Lots of poor copies out there with alignment issues.
Abysmal customer service on at least a couple of occasions.
Poor separation between focussing ring and aperture ring.
Difficulty mounting and dismounting from camera due to sealing ring.
Poor design of lens hood.
Have I missed anything?
The value of my 21mm Distagon keeps going up and up.
May 22, 2016 at 04:03 AM