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Archive 2015Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
p.63 #1Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
The lens has some field curvature so focusing on dead center will fail the corners at least with large apertures.
I tested mine so that I focused in one extreme corner, left the focus as is and composed the same object to every other corner. I got equally sharp results.
I tested mine so that I focused in one extreme corner, left the focus as is and composed the same object to every other corner. I got equally sharp results.
May 05, 2016 at 05:32 AM
p.63 #2Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Sonyalpharumours posted this: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/zeiss-launches-new-loxia-case-made-to-carry-four-loxias-hint-one-more-loxia-lens-announcement-soon/
It's a case with an insert for four Loxia lenses from Zeiss. SAR speculates that we will see a fourth Loxia lens introduced soon.
It's a case with an insert for four Loxia lenses from Zeiss. SAR speculates that we will see a fourth Loxia lens introduced soon.
May 05, 2016 at 10:00 AM
p.63 #3Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
100 or 135 2.8 compact APO please
May 05, 2016 at 10:07 AM
p.63 #4Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Loxia 15mm please. 
100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis.
100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis. May 05, 2016 at 10:17 AM
p.63 #5Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Asking 21mm users, do you face any problems focussing in low light, when focussing at working aperture?
May 05, 2016 at 11:21 AM
p.63 #6Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
darbo wrote:
Loxia 15mm please. 100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis.
It won't be a 15mm with that diameter, even if it is f/3.5. it would need a much wider front element. I expect a 28mm or maybe an 85. I would be happy if you are right, however.
Loxia 15mm please.
100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis. It won't be a 15mm with that diameter, even if it is f/3.5. it would need a much wider front element. I expect a 28mm or maybe an 85. I would be happy if you are right, however.
May 05, 2016 at 01:00 PM
p.63 #8Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Steve Spencer wrote:
100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis.It won't be a 15mm with that diameter, even if it is f/3.5. it would need a much wider front element. I expect a 28mm or maybe an 85. I would be happy if you are right, however.
At what diameter? The case has room for a really wide lens in front.
Case aside I just flat want a super-sharp 15mm.
Seriously though, do you really think the Loxia and Batis lineups are going to start being redundant at common focal lengths (like at 85mm)? Seems odd to me, but admittedly I find the whole two separate lines really odd.
darbo wrote
Loxia 15mm please. 100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis.At what diameter? The case has room for a really wide lens in front.
Case aside I just flat want a super-sharp 15mm. Seriously though, do you really think the Loxia and Batis lineups are going to start being redundant at common focal lengths (like at 85mm)? Seems odd to me, but admittedly I find the whole two separate lines really odd.
May 05, 2016 at 01:15 PM
p.63 #9Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
darbo wrote:
100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis.It won't be a 15mm with that diameter, even if it is f/3.5. it would need a much wider front element. I expect a 28mm or maybe an 85. I would be happy if you are right, however.At what diameter? The case has room for a really wide lens in front. Case aside I just flat want a super-sharp 15mm.
Seriously though, do you really think the Loxia and Batis lineups are going to start being redundant at common focal lengths (like at 85mm)? Seems odd to me, but admittedly I find the whole two separate lines really odd.
You can always get a ZE/ZF 15mm f/2.8, obviously not small though. I do expect eventually the Batis and Loxia lines to overlap. I will be shocked in fact if Zeiss doesn't make a Batis 50 and 35 before too long. There is just too many opportunities for sales there not no make those Batis lenses. I think the Loxia 85mm with be an f/2.8 lens somewhat similar to the C/Y 85 f/2.8 and the Contax G 90 f/2.8--both of which are great lenses and actually very similar in focal length. The C/Y 85 is actually 87.6 so it could have been rounded the other way to 90mm. I don't see such a Loxia lens and really overlapping much with the Batis 85 f/1.8. The Batis is just a very different use scenario, it is bigger, has AF, and has a faster aperture. So, we will see, but I actually expect a 28mm first. That is my bet, but I wouldn't really stake much money on it.
Steve Spencer wrote
darbo wrote
Loxia 15mm please. 100mm would be great as well. 135mm should be a Batis. Case aside I just flat want a super-sharp 15mm. Seriously though, do you really think the Loxia and Batis lineups are going to start being redundant at common focal lengths (like at 85mm)? Seems odd to me, but admittedly I find the whole two separate lines really odd.
You can always get a ZE/ZF 15mm f/2.8
, obviously not small though. I do expect eventually the Batis and Loxia lines to overlap. I will be shocked in fact if Zeiss doesn't make a Batis 50 and 35 before too long. There is just too many opportunities for sales there not no make those Batis lenses. I think the Loxia 85mm with be an f/2.8 lens somewhat similar to the C/Y 85 f/2.8 and the Contax G 90 f/2.8--both of which are great lenses and actually very similar in focal length. The C/Y 85 is actually 87.6 so it could have been rounded the other way to 90mm. I don't see such a Loxia lens and really overlapping much with the Batis 85 f/1.8. The Batis is just a very different use scenario, it is bigger, has AF, and has a faster aperture. So, we will see, but I actually expect a 28mm first. That is my bet, but I wouldn't really stake much money on it.May 05, 2016 at 01:36 PM
p.63 #10Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I think If they're smart, they'll release a Loxia 100 or Loxia 135.
Way too much competition at the 25 - 35mm focal length and way too much competition at 85 and 90mm. Everyone who buys Loxia lenses wants more reach in a compact package and I'm not sure I'd pay $1k for a 85mm f2.8 manual focus lens when I can pay $1200 for a 85mm f1.8 AF lens even if it is a little bigger.
Way too much competition at the 25 - 35mm focal length and way too much competition at 85 and 90mm. Everyone who buys Loxia lenses wants more reach in a compact package and I'm not sure I'd pay $1k for a 85mm f2.8 manual focus lens when I can pay $1200 for a 85mm f1.8 AF lens even if it is a little bigger.
May 05, 2016 at 07:33 PM
p.63 #11Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
tzhang4284 wrote:
I think If they're smart, they'll release a Loxia 100 or Loxia 135.
Way too much competition at the 25 - 35mm focal length and way too much competition at 85 and 90mm. Everyone who buys Loxia lenses wants more reach in a compact package and I'm not sure I'd pay $1k for a 85mm f2.8 manual focus lens when I can pay $1200 for a 85mm f1.8 AF lens even if it is a little bigger.
To keep the diameter consistent for video (52mm thread), I was hoping for a Loxia 15/4, Loxia 28/2, Loxia 85/2, Loxia 100/2.8 or Loxia 135/3.5...Initially Zeiss only committed to 4 Loxia lenses. Of course this could change.
If that's the case, their last lens may very well be a telephoto. So we already have...21, 35, 50. Perhaps the next lens will be a 85 or 100mm. I bet it will be a Sonnar 85/2.
I'm still hoping for a 15/4, 28/2.8, 85/2 and 135/4 to complete the line though. It may be possible to design these lenses without changing the barrel diameter or filter thread.
I think If they're smart, they'll release a Loxia 100 or Loxia 135.
Way too much competition at the 25 - 35mm focal length and way too much competition at 85 and 90mm. Everyone who buys Loxia lenses wants more reach in a compact package and I'm not sure I'd pay $1k for a 85mm f2.8 manual focus lens when I can pay $1200 for a 85mm f1.8 AF lens even if it is a little bigger.
To keep the diameter consistent for video (52mm thread), I was hoping for a Loxia 15/4, Loxia 28/2, Loxia 85/2, Loxia 100/2.8 or Loxia 135/3.5...Initially Zeiss only committed to 4 Loxia lenses. Of course this could change.
If that's the case, their last lens may very well be a telephoto. So we already have...21, 35, 50. Perhaps the next lens will be a 85 or 100mm. I bet it will be a Sonnar 85/2.
I'm still hoping for a 15/4, 28/2.8, 85/2 and 135/4 to complete the line though. It may be possible to design these lenses without changing the barrel diameter or filter thread.
May 05, 2016 at 10:04 PM
p.63 #12Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Fred Miranda wrote:
...Initially Zeiss only committed to 4 Loxia lenses. Of course this could change.
Where did you get this from Fred?
...Initially Zeiss only committed to 4 Loxia lenses. Of course this could change.
Where did you get this from Fred?
May 05, 2016 at 10:08 PM
p.63 #13Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
SKumar25 wrote:
Where did you get this from Fred?
I've read an interview a while back but can't find the link anymore. Perhaps someone will post. Basically Zeiss committed to four Loxia lenses.
It's just speculation on my part though.
Today Zeiss released a case designed for the Loxia line:
Fred Miranda wrote
...Unfortunately it seems Zeiss will only design 4 Loxia lenses.I've read an interview a while back but can't find the link anymore. Perhaps someone will post. Basically Zeiss committed to four Loxia lenses.
It's just speculation on my part though.
Today Zeiss released a case designed for the Loxia line:
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May 05, 2016 at 10:12 PM
p.63 #14Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Hopefully the Loxia line has been successful enough that they'll decide to make more. The 21 seems very popular and overall the Zeiss FE offerings seem to be selling better than Zeiss probably expected a couple years ago.
May 05, 2016 at 10:23 PM
p.63 #15Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Thanks Fred, that would be a shame, was hoping they'd continue extending the Loxia range...
May 05, 2016 at 10:24 PM
p.63 #16Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
However.....they also released a 3-lens Otus case, and I don't doubt that more will be added to that line...
May 05, 2016 at 10:38 PM
p.63 #17Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
DannyBurkPhoto wrote:
However.....they also released a 3-lens Otus case, and I don't doubt that more will be added to that line...
It looks like there are spaces for 4 lenses. Check out this picture.
However.....they also released a 3-lens Otus case, and I don't doubt that more will be added to that line...
It looks like there are spaces for 4 lenses. Check out this picture.
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May 05, 2016 at 10:47 PM
p.63 #18Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Aha, right you are - I hadn't bothered to look at the picture!
May 05, 2016 at 10:49 PM
p.63 #19Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Fred Miranda wrote:
I bet it will be a Sonnar 85/2.
That I would pre-order if it happened, so I'm guessing the next one will be a Planar 100/2.8 or maybe even f/2. Canon proved a 100/2 is possible with a 52mm filter thread. And given the amount of vignetting Zeiss decided was acceptable on the Loxia 21, I'm thinking they might go for it.
I bet it will be a Sonnar 85/2.
That I would pre-order if it happened, so I'm guessing the next one will be a Planar 100/2.8 or maybe even f/2. Canon proved a 100/2 is possible with a 52mm filter thread. And given the amount of vignetting Zeiss decided was acceptable on the Loxia 21, I'm thinking they might go for it.
May 06, 2016 at 12:29 PM
p.63 #20Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Repeating my query, to all expert 21 users here:
Do you face any problems focussing in low light, when focussing at working aperture?
If any of you are using it for street, closer ranges, what is the optimum way to focus...do we get acceptable results by pre focussing with distance scale?
I really don't want to be sucked into 16-35 zoom...
Do you face any problems focussing in low light, when focussing at working aperture?
If any of you are using it for street, closer ranges, what is the optimum way to focus...do we get acceptable results by pre focussing with distance scale?
I really don't want to be sucked into 16-35 zoom...
May 06, 2016 at 11:49 PM