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Guy is right. Post Process is a very personal thing. I have heard many people disagree about skin tones colors, brightness, saturation, tint, amount of corrections to blemishes, etc... etc...

I just enjoy other people contributions and pick up what I feel will further my Photography.

Happy Shooting






Sep 25, 2015 at 02:39 PM
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End of day this is ART. I know hard to believe , it's not about quantum physics or which brand is better. lol


Sep 25, 2015 at 02:49 PM
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Lunatique....Keep on taking pictures and have fun with your new camera.
Thanks for the review...



Sep 25, 2015 at 03:45 PM
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A small nit, but the resolution is not doubled over the Canon. Resolution is horizontal and vertical: e.g., 4x4 pixels is double the resolution of 2x2 pixels. However, this also reveals that you have to quadruple the number of pixels in order to double the resolution......


Sep 25, 2015 at 05:49 PM
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Luvwine wrote:
A small nit, but the resolution is not doubled over the Canon. Resolution is horizontal and vertical: e.g., 4x4 pixels is double the resolution of 2x2 pixels. However, this also reveals that you have to quadruple the number of pixels in order to double the resolution......


So to double the resolution of the 5DMKIII's 22.3 MP, will require 89.2 MP?

What would be the correct way to state the a7RII's gain in resolution over the 5DMKIII? 50% higher resolution?



Sep 25, 2015 at 06:10 PM
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Luvwine wrote:
A small nit, but the resolution is not doubled over the Canon. Resolution is horizontal and vertical: e.g., 4x4 pixels is double the resolution of 2x2 pixels. However, this also reveals that you have to quadruple the number of pixels in order to double the resolution......


Not true. If you go from 2x2 pixels to 4x4 pixels then the overall resolution gain IS 4 times. It is true that the gain in "linear resolution" along either width or height is only 2 times. However resolution and linear resolution are not the same thing.



Sep 25, 2015 at 07:12 PM
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More on the memory slot M1-M4 thing:

When I take out the SD card and try to access the M1-M4 memory slots, I get the "memory card not inserted" message. That means the M1-M4 memory slots can only be read from the SD card.

Also, when you look at the folder structure of the SD card, you'll find the M1-M4 settings stored in this folder: PRIVATE\SONY\SETTING\7RM2N

Every time I reformat the SD card, I have to first make sure I have stored those settings on my computer or on another SD card, and then after reformat, move those settings back onto the reformatted card.

I'm very doubtful my a7RII is doing all that because it is malfunctioning. Can you guys confirm your a7RIIs are behaving the same?




Sep 25, 2015 at 07:24 PM
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For those of us with conventional marriages, I definitly rate that review as NSFW (not safe for wife).



Just ribbing you, Rob. Good to see you posting on FM again, and helpful review for us A7ii owners thinking about reasons to upgrade.



Sep 25, 2015 at 08:23 PM
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In my understanding, resolution is essentially synonymous with pixel density. That is, a measure of the number of pixels in a given area. Thus, whether displayed on a computer screen or a print, in order to double the available pixels per unit area, the total number of pixels must be doubled in two axis (horizontal and vertical). That means doubling the resolution requires quadrupling the number of megapixels. I have read that A7r2 only has an 8% resolution advantage over an A7r despite going from 36 to 42 megapixels. But mathematically, the number of pixels increased about 15%. Resolution is a term often misused and which has different accepted usage in different fields. For an image however, which is made up of pixels in two dimensions, I think pixel density or pixels in a given area, is the most correct definition.


Sep 25, 2015 at 10:24 PM
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I just logged into this forum for the first time in 7 years, give or take, to reply to this thread.

Those are great photos of your wife. They stirred things in me as well, all positive, and undoubtedly your intentions. you owe no apologies.

Thank you for your review of this exciting new camera Lunatique

Lunatique wrote:
I guess you dislike glamour/fashion photography in general?

The whole point of glamour/fashion is to capture and express allure, and I'm influenced by that in the casual portrait and candids I shoot of my wife. I've been shooting in that style ever since I first picked up a camera, and I've been a fan of glamour/fashion photography long before I picked up a camera. I like other types of photography too (journalism, fine art, abstract, etc.), and I shoot other styles sometimes too. It just happens that I enjoy shooting my wife more than anything else, and she happens to
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Sep 25, 2015 at 10:36 PM
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curious80 wrote:
Not true. If you go from 2x2 pixels to 4x4 pixels then the overall resolution gain IS 4 times. It is true that the gain in "linear resolution" along either width or height is only 2 times. However resolution and linear resolution are not the same thing.


In addition to my discussion above see, e.g:

http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/megapixel-mega-myths.html

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Does Doubling the Pixel Count Double the Resolution?
It's easy to assume that if you go from shooting a six megapixel camera to shooting with one that has twelve megapixels, the resolution will double. After all, the megapixel count did, so naturally the resolution will as well, won't it? Nope.

To understand why it is first necessary to decouple the concept of image resolution from the technology used to capture that image. It shouldn't really matter whether one image was captured digitally while another one was shot on film. If we set the two of them side by side, the one that we can see more detail in must have a greater resolution than the other. If we think of resolution in an objective fashion as being the number of lines (or line pairs) per millimeter we can resolve, then resolution is a function not of area, but of linear measures.

If you're with me so far, it's time to consider what happens when we double the number of pixels on a sensor. Assuming it retains the same aspect ratio, its dimensions along each side will have only gone up by a factor of the square root of two. Many things in the world of photography boil down multiples of the square root of two, and this is another. In order to double linear resolution we'd need to actually quadruple the number of pixels. While every increase in resolution can indeed make for a better image, you'd need a twenty-four megapixel camera to actually double the resolution of your old six megapixel model."



Sep 25, 2015 at 10:40 PM
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Luvwine wrote:
In my understanding, resolution is essentially synonymous with pixel density. That is, a measure of the number of pixels in a given area. Thus, whether displayed on a computer screen or a print, in order to double the available pixels per unit area, the total number of pixels must be doubled in two axis (horizontal and vertical). That means doubling the resolution requires quadrupling the number of megapixels. I have read that A7r2 only has an 8% resolution advantage over an A7r despite going from 36 to 42 megapixels. But mathematically, the number of pixels increased about 15%. Resolution is
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Well by the definition of resolution that you have stated (pixels per given area), A7R2 has 16% more resolution than A7R So you have to decide whether you believe the definition that you are stating, or the result which doesn't match that definition

Anyways. I don't want to derail the thread any further. After all it is a thread about a review, not about these nit picks we like to argue over



Sep 26, 2015 at 02:45 AM
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Lunatique wrote:
I guess you dislike glamour/fashion photography in general?

The whole point of glamour/fashion is to capture and express allure, and I'm influenced by that in the casual portrait and candids I shoot of my wife. I've been shooting in that style ever since I first picked up a camera, and I've been a fan of glamour/fashion photography long before I picked up a camera. I like other types of photography too (journalism, fine art, abstract, etc.), and I shoot other styles sometimes too. It just happens that I enjoy shooting my wife more than anything else, and she happens to
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I totally agree that each person's art is subjective and individual-- and I'm confident my impression (which I mentioned was not analytic, but autonomic) won't impact or take away from the enjoyment you and your wife get from shooting such images, your deep connection, or any of that. My comment was merely an aesthetic reaction (having no bearing on any underlying reality in terms of the relationship, photographer, subject in real life; an interpretation of art, not reality, to be clear).

Indeed my reaction reflects on my own sense of art and aesthetics, but, I'd argue, less on morality or enjoyment of a genre. In fact I quite enjoy a lot of fashion photography, but of course that doesn't mean I need to find this particular execution of it up my alley. Likewise, I don't have a problem with overt nudity, even explicitly erotic or pornographic nudity, so it's really not a reflection on morality, social mores, or cultural norms I suspect. But here we are on a photography forum, where opinions are shared... and along with the positive reactions come the negative ones.

In any case, put me in the camp that's glad you wrote this review-- and even happier for you and your wife and your art that you have this thing that brings you joy. I'm totally for that, even if I don't always enjoy every artist's particular style or execution or vision (and I expect many people find my work equally unappealing or off-putting; that's subjectivity for you).

Keep shooting!



Sep 26, 2015 at 03:16 AM
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justruss wrote:
I totally agree that each person's art is subjective and individual-- and I'm confident my impression (which I mentioned was not analytic, but autonomic) won't impact or take away from the enjoyment you and your wife get from shooting such images, your deep connection, or any of that. My comment was merely an aesthetic reaction (having no bearing on any underlying reality in terms of the relationship, photographer, subject in real life; an interpretation of art, not reality, to be clear).

Indeed my reaction reflects on my own sense of art and aesthetics, but, I'd argue, less on morality or enjoyment
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I'm glad you expressed your opinion, because it's always interesting to see different opinions, and it helps keep me reminded of the fact that my feelings and intentions will not automatically translate successfully for everyone that sees my photos. I've gotten really negative comments in the past from conservatives who called my photos "soft porn" and "pimping out my wife," so I'm aware my taste and values is not going to be shared everyone. That is just how the world is, and those of us who choose to share ourselves online will have to accept that.

I've shot other stuff too, and I think you'll likely find those more to your taste--especially the street stuff, since I used to live in China and have shot photos similar to the kind of photos you have on your website. You can see some of the other subjects I shoot here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32242855@N00/albums/72057594095034856

My website contains more complete collection of all my creative works, including music, art, writings, and photography: http://www.ethereality.info/






Sep 26, 2015 at 03:23 PM
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Just read your review and I enjoyed it, as it was a good personal interpretation of how one individual shoots and what one expects of his tools for his own personal work. Appreciated the accompanying photos and your work objectively for what they were, thumbs up and keep it up.


Dec 13, 2015 at 02:07 AM
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