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mogul wrote:
Canon is like Casper the ghost, always producing vaporware.





Sep 18, 2015 at 05:48 PM
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mogul wrote:
Canon is like Casper the ghost, always producing vaporware.


Partially correct, 'Casper the Ghost' no doubt for the military, medical, printing and entertainment industries, it's only vaporware at the consumer level, that is until it's cost effective




Sep 18, 2015 at 06:27 PM
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Tony Northrup is OK until he bases his results so heavily on DXO Mark scores
then it is results based on junk science



Sep 21, 2015 at 11:46 AM
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Vaporware? Someone at Canon is materializing all this new gear I'm buying.


Sep 21, 2015 at 11:53 AM
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Oh, snap! Shot with a Sony Alpha 7RII?!

120 and 250 megapixel sensor. Ultra low light camera. 3D immersive headgear. Stitching four live video displays together. Printers the size of Buicks.

Uh, anything out there for real photographers? 5D IV? 1DX II? 6D II? With the exception of the very specialized short 600 f/4, I didn't see anything in this video worth ten seconds of my time. It seems the Canon display was loaded with almost surreal high-end stuff. Is it always this way?



Sep 21, 2015 at 03:13 PM
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The Sony A7RII is not worth 2 seconds of my time
useless for my needs



Sep 21, 2015 at 03:20 PM
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molson wrote:
Sony doesn't have a version of CPS - their idea of "pro service" seems to be one guy, who throws your gear in the back of his pickup truck and personally drives it down to their third-party repair centre in Mexico...


Actually, they do, but you have to be a Pro to use it.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7017078792/sony-launches-imaging-pro-support

There are hardware requirements to join the program - members must own a minimum of two Sony Alpha full-frame interchangeable lens cameras and at least three Sony Zeiss or G series lenses. Members must also show that they are an active professional photographer by providing work samples. Additionally, a special invitation from Sony Electronics is required, as is an annual $100 a year membership fee.

Both of their Pro members get excellent support from that lone repairman



Sep 21, 2015 at 03:28 PM
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scalesusa wrote:
Actually, they do, but you have to be a Pro to use it.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7017078792/sony-launches-imaging-pro-support

There are hardware requirements to join the program - members must own a minimum of two Sony Alpha full-frame interchangeable lens cameras and at least three Sony Zeiss or G series lenses. Members must also show that they are an active professional photographer by providing work samples. Additionally, a special invitation from Sony Electronics is required, as is an annual $100 a year membership fee.

Both of their Pro members get excellent support from that lone repairman


I wonder how many miles he puts on his old pickup truck, running their gear across the border to Mexico, and then bringing it back again a couple of months later?

Fortunately, any real full-time pros will have a full set of Nikon or Canon gear that they actually use for work while they're waiting for their Sony gear to come back from its vacation south of the border.

(I did ask Sony Canada about their pro service, but I was told by their customer service department that "Sony does not make any professional photographic equipment. Professional support is only available for alarm systems and security cameras"... but then again, these were the same people who didn't know that an A7R was a camera - let alone a Sony camera.)



Sep 21, 2015 at 04:11 PM
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Funny how all you Canon boys turn a Canon thread into a Sony / Canon bashing all on your own now. Interesting.


Sep 21, 2015 at 05:40 PM
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hotdog12 wrote:
Oh, snap! Shot with a Sony Alpha 7RII?!

120 and 250 megapixel sensor. Ultra low light camera. 3D immersive headgear. Stitching four live video displays together. Printers the size of Buicks.

Uh, anything out there for real photographers? 5D IV? 1DX II? 6D II? With the exception of the very specialized short 600 f/4, I didn't see anything in this video worth ten seconds of my time. It seems the Canon display was loaded with almost surreal high-end stuff. Is it always this way?


Yes, this is an every five year event, has been for quite a while. It's purpose is not low-end consumer gear, it is to display and demonstrate Canon's R&D efforts and their future looking tech.

This is to show off big boy industry level toyz, not DSLR gearz n stuff, that's for Photokina and other such shows!



Sep 21, 2015 at 06:22 PM
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StillFingerz wrote:
Yes, this is an every five year event, has been for quite a while. It's purpose is not low-end consumer gear, it is to display and demonstrate Canon's R&D efforts and their future looking tech.

This is to show off big boy industry level toyz, not DSLR gearz n stuff, that's for Photokina and other such shows!


Hi StillFingerz,

I agree with this assessment. After attending the 2010 expo I left excited at the high-tech gadgetry on display (4K monitors, hi-rez chips, superzoom automated camera, a previous version of that 3d virtual reality setup) and about all I saw that seemed to appeal to photographers were the new mark II big whites available for test-shooting at an indoor Skating Rink set up and there was a big setup for HD DSLR shooting along with nice coverage for their printers. I left feeling I had made a good choice going with Canon for my future needs for stills and video shooting.

Well, five years has come and gone and Canon is still pumping out out HD cams. their sensor tech hasn't matured very far from where it was five years ago (in this shooter's opinion) and they didn't deliver a 4K 5D3 or 7D2 along with that 1DC. I'll be heading into my 7th decade next year and, quite frankly, I have gotten tired of playing the waiting game with this company (as my dad used to say, they've gotten by on a lick and a promise).

As others in this thread have noted, Canon seems to be playing a top down game, and I agree. They seem more focused on their corporate and production clients and their needs than the needs of the independent shooter looking for some of the current technologies that other manufacturers are providing (read: 4K and DR). And this is not a bash at Canon, it is just my personal recognition that they are a large business which has made decisions as to where their investment dollars will go...and the same personal recognition that I am not on that list.

I passed on attending their expo this year, and after watching Tony and Chelsea's video, I'm glad that I did. I just got in the Sony game this past week on the cheap with a used a7R off the B&S for no other reason than to be able to explore what Sony's much ballyhooed low-ISO DR can offer me. Short of Canon pulling a rabbit out of their hat between now and the end of the year with a 4K 5D4 or somesuch, the a7S II is calling my name...the PDN Expo is a month away and they've conveniently got free buses to B&H! (FWIW, my FZ1000 is getting a lot more work than my 7D these days! Ha!) Life, like technology, moves on.

Thanks for sharing your comments, I appreciated the read.

Anyhoo, that's my view from the cheap seats.




Sep 21, 2015 at 11:35 PM
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Thanks! This stuff was so over the top that I kinda suspected this might be the case.


Sep 22, 2015 at 07:59 AM
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p.2 #13 · Tony Northrup Canon Expo summary...


We shall see....I think the 600DO will see the light by '17 and the 120MP one also...other stuff...who knows....


Sep 22, 2015 at 08:10 AM
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