fredmiranda.com
Login

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1              end
  

Archive 2004 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?

  
 
hqmhqm
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #1 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


I see no discernible difference in sharpness.



Oct 09, 2004 at 06:00 PM
Mert
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #2 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


B is sharper and it's have a more accurate color.


Oct 09, 2004 at 06:23 PM
Qwntm
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #3 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


This "test" means nothing.

Print a 13x19 with no manipulation, sharpening, etc... from the 20D and you can tell immeadiately that it is far superior to any 6MP camera. When you A:B the 13x19's the results are astounding!

That has been my experience. Your results can't vary, it's physics.



Oct 09, 2004 at 08:27 PM
akclimber
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #4 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


About the first set of photos, sensors suffer from diffraction also (or something very similar - I'm no engineer) and the more tightly/densely packed the pixels the greater the diffraction (generally speaking). With the 10D's sensor, diffraction starts to set in around f/16 so using f/22 to judge image quality may not be the best idea. Try f/8 or something and see what you get.

Heck, I'm interested in your results since I'm certainly planning on upgrading from the 10D to the 20D sometime this winter.

Cheers!



Oct 09, 2004 at 08:28 PM
jonwienke
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #5 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


There's not much difference between the images on a per-pixel sharpness basis. Even if the 20D is slightly softer per-pixel than the 10D, (which I'm not seeing in your comparison here) it has more total pixels and you'll still end up with more overall image detail in a decent print from the 20D than you'll get from the 10D. Quit pixel peeping and go take pictures. Your new camera is fine, and a definite improvement over the 10D. Enjoy it.


Oct 09, 2004 at 08:53 PM
gregau
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #6 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


Whilst I don't really think the 20D resolution is more than an incremental improvement over the10D - the 20D is more likely to produce sharper results in 'real life'. The AF is vastly improved - this factor alone will help produce sharper results more often.

Greg



Oct 09, 2004 at 09:24 PM
sspellman
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #7 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


I don't understand why you are so concerned about sharpness, when you can change it with a Parameter setting. If you are shooting JPEG, just adjust the Sharpness Parameter higher to +1 or 2- that should more than compensate for any differences between the cameras.


Oct 09, 2004 at 10:30 PM
Tubby
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #8 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


Not just sharpness but overall image quality.


Oct 09, 2004 at 10:41 PM
ombra
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.2 #9 · 20D/10D Which is sharper here?


Obviously, the 20D shot is exposed more pleasingly.
As for sharpness, after squinting at them both for a while, looking at small areas, I think they are essentially identical.

Tleads me to believe that the lens is your limiting factor, not the camera.

Here is my reasoning:
In both cases, the image hitting the sensor is identical, since the lens is identical.
If the resolving power of your lens were smaller than the size of a 10D pixel, then the 20D shot, with smaller pixels, would appear sharper. Since both shots appear, to me at least, to have identical sharpness, then the resolving limit, or 'blur' of your lens must be _larger_ than a 10D pixel., at least at this f-stop.

I agree with a previous poster, try the same experiment at f/8.



Oct 10, 2004 at 01:38 AM
1              end




FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1              end
    
 

Welcome back
Log in to your account