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p.1 #1 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


Been reading some on the topic. Any FMer's go from one to the other? What are your opinions on the topic at hand....

Thank you.

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Aug 29, 2015 at 03:17 PM
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p.1 #2 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


I have both the Canon 5D MKII and the Sony A7 II, so the 5D MKII is not the 6D but has a lot in common with it. For my type of shooting which is almost always manual focus, I much prefer the A7 II. The EVF is much easier to use for MF than the OVF, and the IBIS is very useful for my lenses (none of which have IS). I like that the A7 II is quite a bit smaller as well. If I shot AF, then I might prefer the Canon in some situations, but since I don't I prefer the Sony for pretty much all my shooting. I still use the Canon quite a bit (when my wife is using the Sony A7 II and we are shooting together) and I still like it. It is a nice camera and takes good images. I am very happy to have it for these occasions and as a back up, but when I can pick which camera to use I always take the Sony.


Aug 29, 2015 at 03:41 PM
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p.1 #3 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


Thanks...I still have adapters from when I owned the A7. I have two lenses that already have IS (24-105 and 70-200)....But the ability to have IBIS on ANY lens I get is very intriguing to me. Thanks for the input....


Aug 29, 2015 at 04:23 PM
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p.1 #4 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


I'd take the A7 II for shooting in decent light with AF/native lenses or adapted manual lenses, for landscapes; I'd take the 6D (well, keep) for shooting in low-light, where it has better AF and better (effective) high-ISO performance.

Course, if starting from scratch, I'd take a D750 over either unless manual focus was a priority.



Aug 29, 2015 at 05:54 PM
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p.1 #5 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


Michaelparris wrote:
Been reading some on the topic. Any FMer's go from one to the other? What are your opinions on the topic at hand....

Thank you.

Iron sharpens iron


I wonder if you might get more targeted replies if you shared a bit more about what and how you photograph, and what sorts of features are important to you. There are pluses and minuses to both camera and either might be your best choice... but it depends quite a bit on you.



Aug 29, 2015 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #6 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


gdanmitchell wrote:

I wonder if you might get more targeted replies if you shared a bit more about what and how you photograph, and what sorts of features are important to you. There are pluses and minuses to both camera and either might be your best choice... but it depends quite a bit on you.


Have you used the A7 series?



Aug 29, 2015 at 06:12 PM
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p.1 #7 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


I have both these cameras. I use the A7II more primarily because of the size & weight. In terms of RAW files, others can state more definitively, but I do find that the A7II's files do better in LR. The A7II also feels faster in terms of focus with native lenses. But the 6D is fabulous focussing in low light. So why do I still have the 6D? I don't know. I'm seriously asking myself that question.


Aug 30, 2015 at 06:41 PM
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p.1 #8 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


bvphotos wrote:
I have both these cameras. I use the A7II more primarily because of the size & weight. In terms of RAW files, others can state more definitively, but I do find that the A7II's files do better in LR. The A7II also feels faster in terms of focus with native lenses. But the 6D is fabulous focussing in low light. So why do I still have the 6D? I don't know. I'm seriously asking myself that question.


I owned the A7 is focusing with Canon L glass as slow with MK2 ?



Aug 30, 2015 at 07:53 PM
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p.1 #9 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


I have both a 6D & A7R. One is for landscapes & travel (A7R), the other general purpose where I need fast AF & low-light stuff (6D). Different tools IMO.

So- to me it'll all depend what you intend to shoot with it.



Aug 30, 2015 at 08:42 PM
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p.1 #10 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


Michaelparris wrote:
Have you used the A7 series?


No. But I have used mirrorless cameras extensively alongside DSLRs, and I have some useful perspective on the question from that point of view. And, even if you were to discount my point of view, it is always useful to those who respond to "which camera" questions to know a bit about what the person asking the question is trying to accomplish.

For some things the mirrorless camera could be the better choice. For some things the DSLR could be the better choice.



Aug 30, 2015 at 08:52 PM
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p.1 #11 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


gocolts wrote:
I have both a 6D & A7R. One is for landscapes & travel (A7R), the other general purpose where I need fast AF & low-light stuff (6D). Different tools IMO.

So- to me it'll all depend what you intend to shoot with it.


But the A7 II is a very different camera than the A7r, and the A7 II is much more a general purpose camera. Perhaps not as much as a 6D, but still much more of a general purpose camera than the A7r.



Aug 30, 2015 at 09:33 PM
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p.1 #12 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


Michaelparris wrote:
I owned the A7 is focusing with Canon L glass as slow with MK2 ?


I don't know comparative terms how Canon L glass focuses on A7 vs A7II. From what I've experienced with the Fotodiox adapter, AF was practically unusable on the A7II with the 40mm, the 24-105, 70-200 f4 IS and the 50/1.4. Besides, using the larger Canon glass negated a big reason for my switch to Sony: weight. So I abandoned any thoughts of adapting Canon glass to the A7II. Instead, I use native lenses and small, adapted MF lenses.



Aug 30, 2015 at 10:10 PM
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p.1 #13 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


Michaelparris wrote:
I owned the A7 is focusing with Canon L glass as slow with MK2 ?


Sony updated algorithms for the A7 II, which reportedly made a difference with native glass, and not so much with adapted glass. Note that the sensor itself wasn't changed, unlike in the A7R II.




Aug 30, 2015 at 10:54 PM
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p.1 #14 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


The two canon lenses I tried to AF with on my A7 II were unusable for AF, with MF being much more accurate and faster. Useful for aperture control only, really.


Aug 31, 2015 at 04:27 AM
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p.1 #15 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


Michaelparris wrote:
I owned the A7 is focusing with Canon L glass as slow with MK2 ?


Pre-a7rII, focusing with Canon lenses is almost unuseable. Even with the a7rII while greatly improved, if you're not able or willing to switch over to native glass, your shooting experience will not be as natural or pleasant. That's not to say with certain glass under certain situations it's not good. But with all types of glass under all types of situatuions if you're using Canon glass, stick with Canon bodies.

Myself personally I found I wasn't taking advantage of the benefits that DSLRs had over mirrorless in general. I don't shoot sports or wildlife (I don't need world class , my life depending on it focus and I don't need 300mm+ glass), I don't shoot with strobes or flashes (the many types of speed lights and strobes available didn't away me). I do shoot video so mirrorless is better for me, I do like shooting at lower angles, so the titl screen is better. And I do like FF files and I do like high resolution.

If you shoot a lot of long lenses or use a lot of speed lights, or have a lot of Canon glass and are looking to use them instead of native Sony glass, stick with Canon. If you're shooting general purpose, shoot in natural light, and are willing to get native Sony glass, the a7 series is w good buy.



Aug 31, 2015 at 05:59 AM
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p.1 #16 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


I do shoot with strobes quite a bit. ....never a problem with A7. One of reasons I an considering mk2 is the ability to up my sync to 1/250....don't need ttl


Aug 31, 2015 at 07:09 AM
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p.1 #17 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


I sold my 1dmk3 6d and a7r to get the a7r2..... my 6d was at home most outings only thing i miss is if shooting a fast moving object evf delay is problimatic 50%of the time in that situation the benefits of the Sony out weighed that for my shooting




Aug 31, 2015 at 08:12 AM
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p.1 #18 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


thanks for the input


Aug 31, 2015 at 09:41 AM
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p.1 #19 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


I just bought an a7II a couple of months ago, and I sold my 6D about two weeks ago.

The 6D is really an exceptional camera. It is one of those things that is better than the sum of its parts. That is, on paper, it is not particularly impressive - a consumer body, only one center AF point to write home about, a sensor based on older manufacturing processes with less DR than the Sony sensors, less than 100% coverage viewfinder, no tilt screen...But in practice the 6D really is an excellent picture taking tool. The ergonomics (for me) are excellent, it is relatively small and lightweight for a FF camera with OVF, the center AF point is consistently accurate, fast to lock, and focuses well in low light, the camera is well built with a solid feel, the Live View implementation is very good, the High ISO ability is incredible - better than the Sony in many ways, and in it's DR comfort zone (which is definitely smaller than that of the a7II), or with some blending, etc in PP, it can produce wonderful images. The Canon lenses I have used are great (all manufacturers make some excellent lenses - I've had Nikon, Pentax, Sony and Olympus cameras/lenses at different times through many years, and Canon lenses are my personal favorites overall - YMMD). If the 6D had had a tilt screen, I might very well have kept it (and if it had the Sony sensor, or equivalent, I definitely would have kept it).

The a7II's advantages boil down three things: the sensor, the sensor, and the sensor, .
Actually, as good as the 6D sensor is, and it is a good sensor, the Sony sensor is better from a DR standpoint. And it shows up in subtle ways as well as the obvious. For instance, when shooting a forest scene, or an area with a lot of foliage with sunlight filtering through, especially when the light is more harsh closer to midday, the greater DR of the Sony allows a more subtle rolloff of the highlights, where the Canon has a much more abrupt rolloff. Adjusting contrast on the Canon file, or other adjustments, cannot give the softer and more pleasant rolloff that the extra DR of the Sony allows. Now, if you are shooting in situations within the Canon sensor's comfort zone, it can produce excellent results.
Another area the Sony sensor helps is pulling shadows. This has obviously been discussed ad nauseam, but the Sony has cleaner shadows, and more latitude to manipulate the image. Exposing for the highlights and pulling up the shadows is easier, and better with the Sony.
Finally, the EVF, which I like, and the manual focus aides are very good on the a7II, as is the ability to adapt most any lens. The somewhat smaller form factor, and potentially (depending on lenses) lower weight are also bonuses of the Sony. The in camera IS (Steady Shot) is another excellent feature of the Sony, though not a deal maker for me.

At the end of the day, I am very happy with the Sony a7II. Having used and owned both the 6D and the a7II, if someone came to me today and said I have no choice but to use the 6D, I would say sure, no problem. The old saying that it is what's behind the camera that is most important truly applies when comparing these two cameras, IMO. They are both excellent, though neither are perfect. You can't go wrong with either.

Good luck.

-Bill



Aug 31, 2015 at 09:48 AM
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p.1 #20 · Not again.....Canon 6D Vs A7 MKII. Anyone have an opinion?


wsu6 wrote:
I just bought an a7II a couple of months ago, and I sold my 6D about two weeks ago.

The 6D is really an exceptional camera. It is one of those things that is better than the sum of its parts. That is, on paper, it is not particularly impressive - a consumer body, only one center AF point to write home about, a sensor based on older manufacturing processes with less DR than the Sony sensors, less than 100% coverage viewfinder, no tilt screen...But in practice the 6D really is an excellent picture taking tool. The ergonomics (for me) are
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