joychris wrote:
I'm willing to bet if its ever offered - it'll be one of the paid apps rather than a FW update. Sony could certainly include interval functions like most other camera makers - instead they try to squeeze every last penny out of its customers.
They just need to update the firmware to give a real RAW (and a cropped RAW mode).
Imagine if it allowed 10bit 4k on clean HDMI?!!! (no clue if it does or not)
Great for Canon users. Don't have to rush into selling off all the amazing Canon lenses and the great expense of getting a new Nikon set.
Canon said 4k was impossible in such a high MP camera (and it's not just 4k but 4k with no line skipping and not just no line skipping but oversampled 4k!) or in any such camera under $8000 at all. They said focus peaking and zebras and other basic usability features only belonged in $15,000+ cameras. They said low ISO DR wasn't worth the bother. etc. etc. Canon (MBAs) saw impossible. Sony did it.
Good stuff!
(still hanging onto 5D3 though as I still don't think this cuts it for serious sports/action, it's still an adpated mirrorless and not a real and native DSLR)
johnvanr wrote:
Haven't read this whole thread, but I think the weight discussion is just one of several. For some reason, people have equated mirrorless with small and light, which it doesn't necessarily have to be. Sony gave us a camera with 36mp that was small and light, as long as you didn't put those big zoom lenses on it. We liked that combo.
Now we have to decide if we are ready to carry a heavier camera that comes close in weight to the DSLRs that we always thought were clunky. Some of us apparently don't care enough about 42mp to take on more weight.
In my case, I use Olympus MFT as my default system because it's capable, small and light and produces excellent images. I use the heavy and large Canon 1D X for bird photography because it's capable where the Olympus isn't. For those moments that I crave more megapixels than either camera can deliver, I throw the A7R and a few small primes in my bag. The weight of the II is not going to hold me back by itself, but the combination of the weight and the price makes me hesitant to press the pre-order button....Show more →
I do agree people thinking just because its mirrorless means it must be smaller. Where the hell is that rule. Its somewhat bogus to think that we lost the mirror so everything should be smaller as a hard cold fact. Its a bonus more than anything and a design that Sony wanted to attempt. My big issue here is we are talking weight in terms of grams and ounces. Thats peanut stuff really when we get to pounds than lets get serious about this. We lugged 8x10 /4x5 cameras around for years. My back is living proof of that abuse. A couple grams here and there we sound like a bunch of wimps. If that offends someone sorry but lets get real here. Weight is by system throw all 5 lenses in your bag and camera and it should be about total weight of the system. That's what you carry. You don't walk around with a lens in your hand but a system of them. Overall Sony is a smaller system, I have downgraded bag size accordingly after selling my Nikon gear. Thats great and happy about it but I view it as a bonus not a point for argument over other systems.
Select your camera of choice from the dropdown menu and enjoy.
Woah, cool.
I actually don't mind this. It pushes the development cost of peripheral features to the people who actually use the features, rather than every single person who buys the camera.
I think one of the key elements here is we are talking about specs be it a good thing or a bad thing but the real key here is we are not talking about the specs to help us achieve better IQ. Some very powerful tools here that go on to help us as shooters achieve better results given certain shooting parameters. Stuff like does IBIS save our necks in low light situations, will the faster processor give us the ability to get larger buffers. Having the higher 1/250 sync speed is HUGE for me. Having EFC completely wipes out that camera shake issue that was a real problem. Silent shutter can really help wedding and street shooters and such. I wish we where talking more about the benefits that will help us than a few grams of weight or should we carry 2 extra batteries or not.
Thats all Im driving at. Every system has its issues. I can sit here and tear apart Nikon like nobodies business or canons but whats the real point, it helps no one doing that. Im more about lets figure out what workarounds we need , what settings are going to work better and stuff that helps us be better shooters. I don't need to give advice or hear how bad battery life is , I just throw a couple extra batteries in the bag and away I go. Whats the big deal.
Wow! A7RII looks just AMAZING! For a full packed features, I think, $3200 is not too bad! However, I will have to get a job first to afford it A grad student's dream!
I do agree people thinking just because its mirrorless means it must be smaller. Where the hell is that rule. Its somewhat bogus to think that we lost the mirror so everything should be smaller as a hard cold fact.
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If not for the smallness, then why the hell should we put up with all the quirkiness of mirorless cameras I don't understand what you are saying.
GMPhotography wrote:
I think your all missing the big picture on size and weight. Please name me any camera at 42mpx that is this small and light weight.
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Please name me any other camera at 42mpx.
What does megapixel have to do with size and weight?
matthewsaville wrote:
As a Nikon D750 owner, I'm confused.
The A7R was 14 oz.
The A7 II was 21 oz.
The A7R II is 22 oz.
A D750 is 26 oz. (And megapixels don't weigh anything, of course.)
Aside from the numerous advantages that an EVF offers, along with the availability of AF Zeiss glass, I'm not as much concerned about a few ounces as the size between an A7R2 and D750/D810:
joychris wrote:
I'm willing to bet if its ever offered - it'll be one of the paid apps rather than a FW update. Sony could certainly include interval functions like most other camera makers - instead they try to squeeze every last penny out of its customers.
ontime wrote:
Sony has an app system for the A7 series cameras?
It's the 2010 version of the expansion card system available for the second generation Minolta AF cameras such as the 7000i in 1988.
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ecarlino wrote:
Aside from the numerous advantages that an EVF offers, along with the availability of AF Zeiss glass, I'm not as much concerned about a few ounces as the size between an A7R2 and D750/D810:
Thanks for the pictures. Part of the confusion about weights is that Mattew was not comparing apples to apples. The weight for the A7II and A7rII includes the battery and a card and for the other cameras the listed weights are for the body only.
Here are the weights for the body only:
A7r: 14.8 oz or 422g
A7 II: 19.6 oz or 556g
A7r II: 20.5 oz or 582g
Nikon D750: 26.5 oz or 750g
Here are the weights using the CIPA standard (battery plus card):
A7r: 16.4 oz or 465g
A7 II: 21.1 oz or 599g
A7r II: 22.0 oz or 625g
D750: 29.7 oz or 840g
Once you get this straight the size in pictures and the weights are much more in line.
GMPhotography wrote:
Cameras should NEVER be viewed as a investment but agree Leica does hold its value better. But if your putting out 3 times the cost out front for 3 years think of that interest in the bank or somewhere smart.
I've never seen a single post from anyone that suggests that they will buy a camera and later resell it for a profit.
A grad student's dream!
I don't understand what you are saying.