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p.2 #1Sony A7r Setup
coogee wrote:
MF is very very easy for landscapes. You can set the camera up for WYSIWYG (my preference) - it's all through the menus and 'Live View Setting Effect (ON I think)?
yes, "ON" is correct.
o.p., if you are new to evf cameras, landscape shooting using full magnification for focusing is the way to go.
i tend to shoot at 1/320th or quicker with the a7r.
MF is very very easy for landscapes. You can set the camera up for WYSIWYG (my preference) - it's all through the menus and 'Live View Setting Effect (ON I think)?
yes, "ON" is correct.
o.p., if you are new to evf cameras, landscape shooting using full magnification for focusing is the way to go.
i tend to shoot at 1/320th or quicker with the a7r.
Apr 26, 2015 at 05:10 PM
p.2 #2Sony A7r Setup
EB-1 wrote:
Thanks, all. I did not realize the L bracket would be so complicated with the metastones adapter. I will be using the Canon 24 TSE II, 24-70/2.8, and 70-200/4 IS. Do I need two Metastones adapters? I don't think the L bracket would be good hanging from the adapter when a 70-200 lens collar is attached to the tripod.
EBH
The L hanging from the adapter is not a problem when using the lens collar on the Sigma 150. Assume the same for the 70-200
Thanks, all. I did not realize the L bracket would be so complicated with the metastones adapter. I will be using the Canon 24 TSE II, 24-70/2.8, and 70-200/4 IS. Do I need two Metastones adapters? I don't think the L bracket would be good hanging from the adapter when a 70-200 lens collar is attached to the tripod.
EBH
The L hanging from the adapter is not a problem when using the lens collar on the Sigma 150. Assume the same for the 70-200
Apr 26, 2015 at 05:14 PM
p.2 #3Sony A7r Setup
osv2 wrote:
yes, "ON" is correct.
o.p., if you are new to evf cameras, landscape shooting using full magnification for focusing is the way to go.
i tend to shoot at 1/320th or quicker with the a7r.
Normally I shoot landscapes at slower speeds and base ISO, especially with filters. That's a main point of using a tripod.
I'd need 400-800 for 1/320 much of the time. How is the noise of the Sony at higher ISOs?
EBH
coogee wrote
MF is very very easy for landscapes. You can set the camera up for WYSIWYG (my preference) - it's all through the menus and 'Live View Setting Effect (ON I think)?o.p., if you are new to evf cameras, landscape shooting using full magnification for focusing is the way to go.
i tend to shoot at 1/320th or quicker with the a7r.
Normally I shoot landscapes at slower speeds and base ISO, especially with filters. That's a main point of using a tripod.
I'd need 400-800 for 1/320 much of the time. How is the noise of the Sony at higher ISOs?
EBH
Apr 26, 2015 at 06:23 PM
p.2 #4Sony A7r Setup
EB, see here:
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7R-versus-Canon-EOS-6D-versus-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III___917_836_795
I tend to shoot at 1/125s or slower with the a7r, a subject matter issue...I am a heretic working in a fundamentalist environment, obviously. ;-)
Sonys have very attractive noise quality, a slight graininess rather than the airbrushing treatment. It's easy to dial up exactly what you want. But for landscapes and similar, it's the highlight handling and shadow lifting that enable more images to work really well.
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7R-versus-Canon-EOS-6D-versus-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III___917_836_795
I tend to shoot at 1/125s or slower with the a7r, a subject matter issue...I am a heretic working in a fundamentalist environment, obviously. ;-)
Sonys have very attractive noise quality, a slight graininess rather than the airbrushing treatment. It's easy to dial up exactly what you want. But for landscapes and similar, it's the highlight handling and shadow lifting that enable more images to work really well.
Apr 26, 2015 at 08:27 PM
p.2 #6Sony A7r Setup
EB-1 wrote:
Normally I shoot landscapes at slower speeds and base ISO, especially with filters. That's a main point of using a tripod.
I'd need 400-800 for 1/320 much of the time. How is the noise of the Sony at higher ISOs?
EBH
Very well.
ISO 3200 used in this single image, to account for twilight and wind.
http://davidsphotography.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v135/p1090127521-5.jpg
Normally I shoot landscapes at slower speeds and base ISO, especially with filters. That's a main point of using a tripod.
I'd need 400-800 for 1/320 much of the time. How is the noise of the Sony at higher ISOs?
EBH
Very well.
ISO 3200 used in this single image, to account for twilight and wind.
http://davidsphotography.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v135/p1090127521-5.jpg
Apr 29, 2015 at 06:24 PM
p.2 #7Sony A7r Setup
If I buy the Hejenar L bracket do I need this huge foot for the 24 TSE II or any other lenses? The foot looks like it will mess up the panning-stitching something awful. 
EBH
EBH
May 07, 2015 at 07:06 PM
p.2 #8Sony A7r Setup
I guess if you have a grip attached, maybe you need that huge thing.
If you don't have a grip and connect the L bracket to the Metabones IV, mine looks like this picture on their site. The extra spacer is smaller.
http://www.hejnarphotostore.com/product-p/metabones2lb22.htm
David
If you don't have a grip and connect the L bracket to the Metabones IV, mine looks like this picture on their site. The extra spacer is smaller.
http://www.hejnarphotostore.com/product-p/metabones2lb22.htm
David
May 07, 2015 at 08:43 PM
p.2 #9Sony A7r Setup
Thanks. I have everything on order for rental and will buy the IR remote, L bracket for the Metastones, and four of the Wasabi batteries w/2 chargers.
The last part I forgot about is the image processing. Is the Sony software sufficient for browsing the images and generating basic 16-bit TIFF files in the field?
EBH
The last part I forgot about is the image processing. Is the Sony software sufficient for browsing the images and generating basic 16-bit TIFF files in the field?
EBH
May 09, 2015 at 11:39 AM
p.2 #10Sony A7r Setup
Have fun!
I'll have to defer that software question to another person or your own testing. I have only used ACR or LR for my files so far. I don't think my used A7R came with a CD.
I'll have to defer that software question to another person or your own testing. I have only used ACR or LR for my files so far. I don't think my used A7R came with a CD.
May 09, 2015 at 05:51 PM
p.2 #11Sony A7r Setup
My rental won't have a CD either, but I really don't want LR.
EBH
EBH
May 10, 2015 at 12:23 AM
p.2 #12Sony A7r Setup
There is a free Capture One specific for Sony. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of C1 Pro but if you just need to make basic tiffs it should do, although my preference also would be LR. I've never tried the Sony software.
http://www.phaseone.com/Imaging-Software/Capture-One-for-Sony.aspx
http://www.phaseone.com/Imaging-Software/Capture-One-for-Sony.aspx
May 10, 2015 at 05:18 AM
p.2 #13Sony A7r Setup
Thanks, I will give it shot.
I bought two brackets, one Markins for the body and one Henjar for the adapter.
I received a couple of the Wasabi batteries and they are really small. I can see why the battery life is low. Unfortunately lithium batteries are not allowed in the checked luggage. I hope the airlines don't have issues with 6 of them and my other camera batteries in the backpack.
With all the accessories with is becoming a complicated little project just to support the camera/adapater rental.
EBH
I bought two brackets, one Markins for the body and one Henjar for the adapter.
I received a couple of the Wasabi batteries and they are really small. I can see why the battery life is low.
Unfortunately lithium batteries are not allowed in the checked luggage. I hope the airlines don't have issues with 6 of them and my other camera batteries in the backpack. With all the accessories with is becoming a complicated little project just to support the camera/adapater rental.
EBH
May 16, 2015 at 05:49 PM
p.2 #14Sony A7r Setup
EB-1 wrote:
Thanks, I will give it shot.
I bought two brackets, one Markins for the body and one Henjar for the adapter.
I received a couple of the Wasabi batteries and they are really small. I can see why the battery life is low. Unfortunately lithium batteries are not allowed in the checked luggage. I hope the airlines don't have issues with 6 of them and my other camera batteries in the backpack.
With all the accessories with is becoming a complicated little project just to support the camera/adapater rental.
EBH
Where are you traveling? I have been able to get as I recall about 4 Lithium camera batteries along with a large number of AA Nickel Metal Hydride bateries on my domestic flights without any issue in the past. I would frequently carry these batteries and the chargers in 2 small padded pouches that I stashed in a camera vest that I would wear along with most of my gear packed in my Think Tank Airport Accelerator V1 Photo Backpack. The separate padded pouches could either be kept in or taken out of the photo vest and run run through the Metal detector in either configuration.
Rich
Thanks, I will give it shot.
I bought two brackets, one Markins for the body and one Henjar for the adapter.
I received a couple of the Wasabi batteries and they are really small. I can see why the battery life is low.
Unfortunately lithium batteries are not allowed in the checked luggage. I hope the airlines don't have issues with 6 of them and my other camera batteries in the backpack. With all the accessories with is becoming a complicated little project just to support the camera/adapater rental.
EBH
Where are you traveling? I have been able to get as I recall about 4 Lithium camera batteries along with a large number of AA Nickel Metal Hydride bateries on my domestic flights without any issue in the past. I would frequently carry these batteries and the chargers in 2 small padded pouches that I stashed in a camera vest that I would wear along with most of my gear packed in my Think Tank Airport Accelerator V1 Photo Backpack. The separate padded pouches could either be kept in or taken out of the photo vest and run run through the Metal detector in either configuration.
Rich
May 16, 2015 at 06:14 PM
p.2 #15Sony A7r Setup
No need to guess. You can google the tsa and faa regs. Print them out if you feel needed.
http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/06/travel-tips-tuesday-safely-packing.html?m=1
http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/06/travel-tips-tuesday-safely-packing.html?m=1
May 16, 2015 at 07:38 PM
p.2 #16Sony A7r Setup
This camera is rather challenging, especially with the Metastases adapter. 
The AF just racks back and forth without locking on anything accurately, even static subjects, so I'm using the manual focus at 14.4x. The tiny controls and cramped ergonomics are difficult for my thick, dried out old fingers to operate. It's not as difficult on a tripod.
The main problems are the shutter delay and the shutter shake. It needed about 1/250th for 400 mm, and that is on a 3 series tripod with no winds.
I give props to all of you that use it for anything but wide-short tele lenses and static subjects.
EBH
The AF just racks back and forth without locking on anything accurately, even static subjects, so I'm using the manual focus at 14.4x. The tiny controls and cramped ergonomics are difficult for my thick, dried out old fingers to operate. It's not as difficult on a tripod. The main problems are the shutter delay and the shutter shake. It needed about 1/250th for 400 mm, and that is on a 3 series tripod with no winds.
I give props to all of you that use it for anything but wide-short tele lenses and static subjects.
EBH
May 25, 2015 at 01:55 PM
p.2 #17Sony A7r Setup
dgdg wrote:
No need to guess. You can google the tsa and faa regs. Print them out if you feel needed.
http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/06/travel-tips-tuesday-safely-packing.html?m=1
Apparently it has not changed, but I've not had the best experiences with the security.
I'll have to think about future strategies, especially on the international flights.
EBH
No need to guess. You can google the tsa and faa regs. Print them out if you feel needed.
http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/06/travel-tips-tuesday-safely-packing.html?m=1
Apparently it has not changed, but I've not had the best experiences with the security.
I'll have to think about future strategies, especially on the international flights.
EBH
May 25, 2015 at 01:57 PM
p.2 #18Sony A7r Setup
EB-1 wrote:
This camera is rather challenging, especially with the Metastases adapter. The AF just racks back and forth without locking on anything accurately, even static subjects, so I'm using the manual focus at 14.4x. The tiny controls and cramped ergonomics are difficult for my thick, dried out old fingers to operate. It's not as difficult on a tripod.
The main problems are the shutter delay and the shutter shake. It needed about 1/250th for 400 mm, and that is on a 3 series tripod with no winds.
I give props to all of you that use it for anything...Show more →
Below are some images taken with my tripod mounted (RRS TVC-24L with RRS TA-2-LC: Series 2 Leveling Base with Clamp and Markins M20 Ball head and Sony electronic cable release) using measures to deal with the vibration of the A7r with longer lenses. Images below are identified as to with my tripod mounted Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt lens either alone or with my Leica R 1.4X Apo Extender along with information and regarding images at troublesome shutter speeds.
Rich
Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt & Leica 1.4X Apo Extender; ISO 800, lens effective aperture of f11 for 1/60 second
Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt & Leica R 1.4X Apo Extender; ISO 400, lens effective aperture of f11 for 1/60 second
Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt lens: ISO 800, f4 for 1/20 second.
This camera is rather challenging, especially with the Metastases adapter.
The AF just racks back and forth without locking on anything accurately, even static subjects, so I'm using the manual focus at 14.4x. The tiny controls and cramped ergonomics are difficult for my thick, dried out old fingers to operate. It's not as difficult on a tripod. The main problems are the shutter delay and the shutter shake. It needed about 1/250th for 400 mm, and that is on a 3 series tripod with no winds.
I give props to all of you that use it for anything...Show more →
Below are some images taken with my tripod mounted (RRS TVC-24L with RRS TA-2-LC: Series 2 Leveling Base with Clamp and Markins M20 Ball head and Sony electronic cable release) using measures to deal with the vibration of the A7r with longer lenses. Images below are identified as to with my tripod mounted Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt lens either alone or with my Leica R 1.4X Apo Extender along with information and regarding images at troublesome shutter speeds.
Rich
Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt & Leica 1.4X Apo Extender; ISO 800, lens effective aperture of f11 for 1/60 second
Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt & Leica R 1.4X Apo Extender; ISO 400, lens effective aperture of f11 for 1/60 second
Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt lens: ISO 800, f4 for 1/20 second.
May 25, 2015 at 02:47 PM
p.2 #19Sony A7r Setup
Thanks. Are those 100% crops? Are you saying that there are optimal slower shutter speeds that are better than faster speeds in some cases? I'm trying to optimize IQ as much as possible and shoot at f/8 to limit diffraction effects. ISO 400 seems to be very good, but there is some noise at higher ISOs so high shutter speeds are often undesirable.
I'm not so thrilled having the L bracket hanging on the Metabones when not needed, but the L bracket on the body seems unbalanced with the weight of shorter lenses, such as the 24 TSE II. I have a 2 series tripod and a Markins Q20i, so I'm familiar with such a setup. The 3 series legs with RSS 75mm leveling base and BH-55 is stronger than that, so the tripod is not the issue. I can do further testing next weekend. I do a lot of panning/stitching, so a few blurry images can be disastrous.
EBH
I'm not so thrilled having the L bracket hanging on the Metabones when not needed, but the L bracket on the body seems unbalanced with the weight of shorter lenses, such as the 24 TSE II. I have a 2 series tripod and a Markins Q20i, so I'm familiar with such a setup. The 3 series legs with RSS 75mm leveling base and BH-55 is stronger than that, so the tripod is not the issue. I can do further testing next weekend. I do a lot of panning/stitching, so a few blurry images can be disastrous.
EBH
May 25, 2015 at 03:42 PM
p.2 #20Sony A7r Setup
I forget the shutter speed ranges where telephoto focal lengths are (reportedly) affected. I care not to debate for or against this issue here since there is a massive thread already. Anyway, look at Fred's review on the A7R. He spells it out well. Stay out of that situation and you'll be fine. How to dampen the vibration if you are in the shutter speed range would have to come from others. I have only used the A7R for normal to wide angle, therefore I have not been concerned about any shutter speed.
David
David
May 25, 2015 at 03:47 PM