I've playing with D750 and so far I've noticed that mine seems to underexpose by 1/2 stop using matrix metering. Has anyone noticed similar behavior? I'm using Portrait setting with sharpening at 7 and clarity at 2. BTW in picture control, even with the same settings, say Standard and Portrait gets me different results which means the same value settings start from different default values?
I would say you should post an example or two. The scenes you are shooting can greatly affect any metering.
I wouldn't think changing from Portrait to Standard would make any difference when it comes to metering. That would be really odd to me if the Picture Control mode changed how it metered, as that's the whole point about the metering modes. But myself, I never use any Picture Control modes as I shoot Raw, and would rather control my photos personally then really on a setting that then affects everything I shoot.
But in the end, different scenes effect all of the metering modes differently, so show us examples.
Mine is out of whack, too. It underexposes .5-.75 in natural light and 1.0-1.50 in artificial light using matrix. I get more accurate exposures using highlight priority (go figure) or center-weighted.
It may sound crazy, but the best thing you could do in the world is set that switch to m and start setting exposure yourself for a year or so. You can use spot or center weighted to set exposures. Meter off things like sidewalks or even the sky. You'll learn how much you need to compensate fter a while. You won't regret doing this in the long run, believe me, but it is hard to convince people of it nowadays.
Nikon matrix metering is fairly aggressive at avoiding blown highlights. If you're shooting for jpg out of the camera, a bit of overexposure helps. This is why I have given up on jpg+raw image capture.
henry albert wrote:
Mine is out of whack, too. It underexposes .5-.75 in natural light and 1.0-1.50 in artificial light using matrix. I get more accurate exposures using highlight priority (go figure) or center-weighted.
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geniousc wrote:
Just set the exposure the way that you want it in menu setting B6.
gene
In low light situation, matrix metering is underexposing 1 stop and center-weighed and spot by about 0.5 stop. Yes, I can adjust them with B6, but I'm wondering if this is something that I need to send it in for adjustment/fixing or something pretty common. I didn't notice the same when I used to have D700...
It seems that each generation of Nikon uses a somewhat different philosophy when it comes to metering. My D70 was fairly conservative by underexposing a bit while the D300 I actually needed to reign in. Compared to the D300 matrix metering, the D750 works to protect highlights. Highlight priority seems to do that even more.
Hypthesizing, the D750 may change its metering when set to Portrait due to its face detection logic.
Unfortunately we'll never see the engineering specs that go into all these various modes, so we will have to experiment with them....
As Gene mentioned, if it's too conservative for you, change the menu setting. Unlike Andrew, i would rather get a somewhat unerexposed shot than one that had been set by me manually 5 minutes ago in different light.
I seem to like the color from the D750 from "Correctly" exposed shots and pushing the exposure a bit than overexposing. With the 14.7 stop DR (and 14 bit color), we have that kind of latitude.
I've used the D600/610 series and now D750...I've found the opposite in my bodies each one overexposing in matrix, the D600 was the worst. The D610 is a bit better and finally the D750 seems improved, but I'm always dialing in - EC. I like my shadows to be just that sometimes, shadows. You can always go to Manual mode too.
Someone here has a good description of the newer Nikon philosophy to metering..snapsy, maybe?
p.1 #10 · D750 with matrix metering underexposing?
Andrew Pece Photography wrote:
It may sound crazy, but the best thing you could do in the world is set that switch to m and start setting exposure yourself for a year or so. You can use spot or center weighted to set exposures. Meter off things like sidewalks or even the sky. You'll learn how much you need to compensate fter a while. You won't regret doing this in the long run, believe me, but it is hard to convince people of it nowadays.
I don't think this is a mode problem because even if you're in manual mode the user still needs to know how the meter is reading a scene.
p.1 #12 · D750 with matrix metering underexposing?
sjms wrote:
back to the books boys and girls.
Pretty much.
As long as it's metering consistently it's easily learned HOW the meter is going to read a scene. Like someone else said, newer bodies fight tooth and nail to read for the highs. Older stuff took a more average reading.
p.1 #13 · D750 with matrix metering underexposing?
sjms wrote:
back to the books boys and girls.
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Jason_Brook wrote:
Pretty much.
As long as it's metering consistently it's easily learned HOW the meter is going to read a scene. Like someone else said, newer bodies fight tooth and nail to read for the highs. Older stuff took a more average reading.
Reading books or using manual exposure wii fix hardware inconsistency? I'm simply asking if it's within the reason or a defect, not a work around.
p.1 #14 · D750 with matrix metering underexposing?
no, it will fix your understanding of things and their features and limits. that way you will know for sure if you are right or wrong. when not to rely on the automation and such.
do you when you look at a scene know how many stops of difference there is between the lightest and darkest portions?
learning how to use the metering is as important as how to use AF.
each camera has its nuances in usage. my D3 back then is pretty different from my D4s in usage. that required me to review and resolve.
p.1 #15 · D750 with matrix metering underexposing?
sjms wrote:
no, it will fix your understanding of things and their features and limits. that way you will know for sure if you are right or wrong. when not to rely on the automation and such.
do you when you look at a scene know how many stops of difference there is between the lightest and darkest portions?
learning how to use the metering is as important as how to use AF.
I understand but in my case, most scenes were evenly-lit without obvious highlights. And again, I'm trying to confirm if I have a hardware defect first.
Since I don't have upload & sell membership. The first 3 are with no compensation and the last with 3/4 stop increased. I don't think any of the scenes were that challenging where my cell phone gets a decent metering.
p.1 #19 · D750 with matrix metering underexposing?
thedruid wrote:
I've used the D600/610 series and now D750...I've found the opposite in my bodies each one overexposing in matrix, the D600 was the worst. The D610 is a bit better and finally the D750 seems improved, but I'm always dialing in - EC. I like my shadows to be just that sometimes, shadows. You can always go to Manual mode too.
Someone here has a good description of the newer Nikon philosophy to metering..snapsy, maybe?
I have found the exact same effect with my D750's. They tend to overexpose using matrix metering and I usually dial in -3 to -7 EV. Not so much with center weighted or spot metering though. However, I usually shoot in manual anyway so this only happens when I'm shooting a fast event like marathons or bike races. Even then, when the lighting is fairly even all around, I'll shoot in manual. I don't shoot in jpeg. so I can't help the OP there.
Since I don't have upload & sell membership. The first 3 are with no compensation and the last with 3/4 stop increased. I don't think any of the scenes were that challenging where my cell phone gets a decent metering.
There's nothing wrong with those except the one you fiddled with.
