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anilveena
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p.1 #1 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


Despite a lot of searching, I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this. The newer version seems to be "more weather resistant" than its predecessors, but not sure what that means. It would be great to have a A7II and lens combination that can be carried around and used in somewhat adverse weather.

Have any reviewers or early users had an opportunity to test this aspect of the camera?

Thanks
Anil



Dec 11, 2014 at 01:33 PM
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p.1 #2 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


Unless it get IP rated, treat it as dust/weather resistant. Only proper IPrating means anything. For those who haven't worked with it, IP is Ingress Protection.


Dec 11, 2014 at 01:44 PM
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p.1 #3 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


agreed, sony says dust and moisture resistant.

Which i heard from somewhere that it only has to do with condensation from a cold environment to a warmer one. Much like bringing my cold mac book from the car into my house. (which i don't recommend booting up a cold macbook when you first get inside a warm house).



Dec 11, 2014 at 01:56 PM
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p.1 #4 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


The Sony A7R was never moisture, dust, or weather resistant:

http://tobinators.com/blog/index.php/2014/04/everything-else/sony-a7r-in-not-weatherproof-shock/

Thea7R has no seals for water,moisture,dust:
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/01/the-a7r-teardown-a-look-inside-sonys-awesome-full-frame-mirrorless-camera

I don't see any claims by Sony for "moisture, dust, or weather resistance" for the A7II on the US Sony website:

http://store.sony.com/full-frame-mirrorless-camera-zid27-ILCE7M2/B/cat-27-catid-all-alpha-pro-capability?_t=pfm%3Dcategory




Dec 11, 2014 at 03:30 PM
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p.1 #5 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


And I thought this was a great teardown by Roger showing what a real weather proofed camera should have

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/11/cracking-open-the-7d-ii



Dec 11, 2014 at 05:01 PM
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p.1 #6 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


I don't see it on the A7II pages, but A7R and A7 pages still claim "Dust and moisture resistance"

http://store.sony.com/a7r-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-zid27-ILCE7R/B/cat-27-catid-all-alpha-pro-capability?_t=pfm%3Dcategory



Dec 14, 2014 at 04:00 PM
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p.1 #7 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


Got caught in rain for <10 min today and my LCD on my A72 went blank. Fortunately it recovered after drying out a couple of hours.

Something similar happened to my A7 (wiped it down with a damp washcloth after a day at the beach), but in that case I had to send it in to Sony.

Both are situations my previous Canon dslrs and GH3/4 and EM1/5 have gone through many, many times without a glitch.

I plan on treating my A72/A7s like a camera with no claims of any degree of weather sealing, splash resistance, etc.



Jan 18, 2015 at 11:22 PM
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p.1 #8 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


The UK site is still claiming weather resistance. Perhaps someone should challenge it.

After it's a misrepresentation that could induce someone into buying the camera.



Jan 19, 2015 at 03:59 AM
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p.1 #9 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


The can probably get away with saying weather resistance, because that is meaningless. These cameras should be protected from the rain and other wet conditions.


Jan 19, 2015 at 10:48 AM
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p.1 #10 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


Thanks for the (unintentional) test, Darrell :-) I guess "weather resistance" means that it can take a few seconds of light mist/drizzle and not much more. I guess this is all moot as none of the FE lenses are truly weather resistant either.

Anil



Jan 19, 2015 at 10:52 AM
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p.1 #11 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


The camera can take more than a few seconds of light rain. I've shot in the rain before, with a metabones adapter (which i believe isnt weathered sealed).

The pic below, was taken in medium rain conditions. You can see the water spots on the lens. I took a few shots. I definetly had my camera out for a minute or two. However, i put my camera back in my bag once i stopped shooting. I'm not saying the camera is weathered sealed, but it can definetly take some rain.







Jan 19, 2015 at 01:12 PM
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p.1 #12 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


IN my experience I would say that the A7R is not adequately weather sealed. Anyone that tells you that they have gotten the camera wet without killing it have yet to experience the results of the corrosion or have been lucky. See my comments in the post "Warning for A7R Users regarding water damage" in this forum.


Jan 20, 2015 at 12:23 AM
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p.1 #13 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


Adequate is too subjective. IP ratings are what is needed. At this point, even Canikon's best are only weather resistant for warranty purposes. Only Oly has done it right. So even with all the cute gaskets and seals in the other folks' bodies, the protection is still at your peril.


Jan 20, 2015 at 01:10 AM
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p.1 #14 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


The Pentax K5 weather selling/resistance is well known to be very effectice. I've got mine totally soaked without any problems, and there are plenty of videos of thm being run under taps, in the shower, buckets of water etc.. but alas, it's no IP rated.


Jan 20, 2015 at 03:15 AM
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p.1 #15 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


The A7R (at least my copy) does not tolerate wind blown sand well. I used mine at Delicate Arch one evening followed by sunrise at Mesa Arch the next morning in very windy conditions. The wind was blowing so hard at Delicate Arch it was difficult to stand. It wasn't quite as windy at Mesa Arch the next morning but enough sand was blowing to irritate my eyes. The front dial stopped working while I was at Mesa Arch. I moved shutter speed to the rear dial and left aperture at F8 and continued shooting throughout the sunrise. Later in the day the front dial started working again and it seemed fine for the rest of my trip. I had the 24-70 lens attached at both locations (no way was I going to change lenses in those conditions!) The lens sounded like it had gravel in it for the rest of the trip (exaggerating, but you get the point).

I sent both the lens and camera to Sony for service when I returned home. I was thinking servicing the camera was just a precaution. The lens definitely needed the sand removed from the barrel. Here is an excerpt of the service report Sony emailed me:

"we proceeded to replace dials and shutter opening, cleaning was also performed
whole wing camera, the lens performed cleaning and sele
lubricasion, solving the customer complaint."

Not sure who wrote this. I copied it directly from the email from the Sony Repair Services Response Team. This went to Laredo for service (predates the current arrangement with Precision Camera for service).

I was REALLY surprised they replaced parts on the camera. The cleaning and lubrication of the lens makes perfect sense to me. Again, I never had another issue with the front dial not working after that morning. I simply sent the camera in as a precaution. The lens now zooms smoothly following the cleaning. I'm very glad I sent both items for service and they did great work.



Jan 21, 2015 at 07:10 PM
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p.1 #16 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


Wow that is crazy about the sand. I wonder what would have happened to say the D810 or Canon 5D3.

Chris



Jan 21, 2015 at 08:15 PM
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p.1 #17 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


Schlotkins wrote:
Wow that is crazy about the sand. I wonder what would have happened to say the D810 or Canon 5D3.

Chris


Toast



Jan 21, 2015 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #18 · Sony A7II weather sealed?


The A7-Series cameras definitely can't handle moisture. Just yesterday, I had an A7R take a small, light splatter of water and go almost immediately on the fritz. I've never seen a camera this poorly weather resistant and I've owned Pentax, Fuji, Nikon, Canon and Sony. Been all Sony the last two years, but I've learned they're incredibly vulnerable to outdoor environments. I just consider it a tax I have to reevaluate regularly in exchange for the low weight, small size, and amazing image quality.

I'd also mention that I was extremely skeptical of other people's claims of poor weather resistance at first. I felt they were misrepresenting how much water was involved. But they aren't. When I'm talking small spray, I'm talking barely any water.

Some people get lucky, no doubt, but these cameras can be ruined if you do so much as look at water the wrong way They're the best tools for photographers available but they need to be babied like nothing electronic I've used before.




Jan 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM





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