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p.23 #1 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Here the thoughts of Nasim Mansurov: https://photographylife.com/nikon-d750-flare-shading-issue#more-98857


Dec 25, 2014 at 03:54 PM
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p.23 #2 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Vinnie_VdB wrote:
Here the thoughts of Nasim Mansurov: https://photographylife.com/nikon-d750-flare-shading-issue#more-98857


It seems from reading the comments in that article that there is no rhyme or reason as to which D750s are affected. That makes it difficult for people like me, who are considering a D750 purchase and use flare creatively a lot in their photos, should go ahead and buy one.



Dec 26, 2014 at 09:40 AM
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p.23 #3 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Indeed so.... as I noted on another thread, I have one from Lens Rentals and, though I've tried, I see no such issues on the copy I have. FWIW


Dec 26, 2014 at 09:55 AM
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p.23 #4 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


badlydrawnboy wrote:
It seems from reading the comments in that article that there is no rhyme or reason as to which D750s are affected. That makes it difficult for people like me, who are considering a D750 purchase and use flare creatively a lot in their photos, should go ahead and buy one.


I have read Nasim and IR, plus followed this issue a bit more than I care to. I recently purchased a D750, don't shoot flare for effect, but out of curiosity have tried to see if I can get this too. I have failed miserably, until I tried with a specific light bulb, a Cree LED daylight, and a 50mm f1.8 G, about 2 feet from the bulb. Only then could I get this. And only at a very precise angle. No other lens of mine will do this, no matter how hard I try. And even the 50mm won't do this outdoors.

My purely unscientific and photo hobbyists mind, in other words gut feel and simply logic, suggests to me that this effects all D750's, and in all likelyhood (and aligned with both Nasim and IR, and others who are more scientific than me), can effect just about any DSLR, to some degree.... provided you can find the exact angle and light formula.

If the AF sensor was positioned differently in some copies, as much as some suggest in photo's on the insides of the D750, I would expect that would impact focus overall, and led to a chorus of AF complaints. So far all I have heard is more people claiming their new D750 is remarkable in how little AF tuning if needs. Mine too, BTW. So I suspect if there is something mechanical, it's not this.

We also have far more reports from pros claiming they have been shooting their D750's into all kinds of light and not found this at all. At the same time, we have a lot of people, like me, and Nasim and IR, who say they had to work to find this, and that it requires a very precise angle and light source. One of them says they could produce it in a test setting, but not in real life.

All this leads me to suspect that this is inherent issue, one that can be found on other DSLR cameras too, but the reason so many claim to not have it in their D750 is because it is hard to produce it tests, let alone in real life shooting. And those who have found it in real life have done so more by accident (at first), then deliberate (the latter).

The specific angle on the D750 where this occurs may be more commonly used, so the effect may be more noticed on the D750 than other camera. But it also sounds very rare and easily avoided (move a mm one way or another).

Perhaps Nikon will come up with a quite fix. But I doubt this warrants a recall or service notice.



Dec 26, 2014 at 10:33 AM
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p.23 #5 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Some D750 have the problem and some don't. A more in-depth study of the problem which includes a look at models from other brands:

Nikon D750 flare problem



Dec 26, 2014 at 12:21 PM
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p.23 #6 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


richfell, thanks for the link. very instructive article from IR


Dec 26, 2014 at 12:51 PM
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p.23 #7 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


I am very happy to report that Nikon is investigating this.

https://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/19336/session/L3RpbWUvMTQxOTg4NjA3MC9zaWQvbV95LS03Ym0%3D

Or

at this link



Dec 29, 2014 at 03:56 PM
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p.23 #8 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63214

yep



Dec 29, 2014 at 05:10 PM
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p.23 #9 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


I think they were chastened by the D600 oil on sensor debacle, which led the Chinese media to pull Nikon's chain very hard.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d78033d0-acdf-11e3-8ba3-00144feab7de.html#axzz3NKgMvAgM
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-nikon-drops-to-five-week-low-after-china-consumer-show-criticism-2014-16

China is a huge market. Nikon can't afford to be seen "selling defective products..." Their response to issues with the D750 suggests they take a more forthright stance with future problems...



Dec 29, 2014 at 06:33 PM
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p.23 #10 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Not bad at all... Nikon finally found out the cause and solutions to the D750 issues, and will be providing the fix in a couple of weeks time.
My initial observation about the focusing sensor position was correct. All thanks to one of the poster on Dpreview that posted his picture of the interior of the D750 chamber. If I am not mistaken it was Brunobarolo who reposted here.
The next thing is the dark band, I don't think I see any solution for that yet, unless they add in a slopy deflector in front of the focusing sensor closed to the lens mount. This slopy deflector can be tape on just like the felt tape. Or maybe they are using software to increase the brightness of the dark band just like the 4 corners of vignetting.

Edited on Jan 09, 2015 at 04:28 AM · View previous versions



Jan 09, 2015 at 03:54 AM
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p.23 #11 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


I think the cause was not that difficult to find.
The problem is to find a solution which works for everyone and is as less costly as possible.



Jan 09, 2015 at 04:26 AM
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p.23 #12 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Chris Dees wrote:
I think the cause was not that difficult to find.
The problem is to find a solution which works for everyone and is as less costly as possible.


Right on Chris.. less costly to me would be "Nikon pays Express shipping both ways, guarantees a two-day turn-around time (excluding weekends - ha, i'm being generous ), and performs the fix for free.




Jan 09, 2015 at 08:08 AM
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p.23 #13 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Then there is this

http://nikonrumors.com/2015/01/09/nikon-to-start-fixing-the-d750-reflectionflare-issue-at-the-end-of-january.aspx/



Jan 09, 2015 at 08:27 AM
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p.23 #14 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Nikon is kick ass right now.


Jan 09, 2015 at 08:55 AM
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p.23 #15 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Do you think that any new D750s purchased after Jan 2015 will have that issue taken care of


Jan 09, 2015 at 09:50 AM
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p.23 #16 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


turosan wrote:
Do you think that any new D750s purchased after Jan 2015 will have that issue taken care of


not if they were already in stores and happened to have the AF sensor height issue...



Jan 09, 2015 at 09:51 AM
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p.23 #17 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


turosan wrote:
Do you think that any new D750s purchased after Jan 2015 will have that issue taken care of


At this point, does it matter? They will fix it for free.



Jan 09, 2015 at 11:18 AM
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p.23 #18 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


anthonysemone wrote:
Then there is this

http://nikonrumors.com/2015/01/09/nikon-to-start-fixing-the-d750-reflectionflare-issue-at-the-end-of-january.aspx/


It's still too early to tell. We don't know whether or not AF accuracy with any lens will be 100% unaffected after the surgery given the warranty service workload that is already at service centers is nothing but horrendous at the moment.



Jan 09, 2015 at 11:38 AM
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p.23 #19 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


anthonysemone wrote:
Then there is this

http://nikonrumors.com/2015/01/09/nikon-to-start-fixing-the-d750-reflectionflare-issue-at-the-end-of-january.aspx/


That is pretty darn good response time considering:

A) Nikon is an enormous corporation that, like any other company, doesn't just hop-to when a few people on the internet say they have an issue. They wait to see if it develops into something beyond normal defects.

B) Nikon definitely will do their own internal due diligence, extensive testing, speaking with repair facilities, developing a plan for service, etc. before making any decisions.

All things considered, full response time of about a month is very good for the unfortunate ones affected. A poll over on "that other site" is showing 85.6% out of 97 respondents seemingly unaffected, including some who have taken over 25K pictures already. Hardly a large sample size, but it provides some insight, especially since affected individuals are many times more likely to respond.



Jan 09, 2015 at 12:05 PM
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p.23 #20 · D750 horrible light leak (black bandit!) reported; Looks horrible "updated"


Nikon is a small companyin both Japanese and US standards. In fact it's a small part of a big wheel.


Jan 09, 2015 at 01:13 PM
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