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Archive 2014 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Please post your image with the new Canon 7D2 and Canon 400mm 5.6 & 1.4x teleconveter.

Off course, I ll post a few too

I gave this combination a try yesterday. I had to micro-adjust the combination on the new 7D2 (+15).

A few static bird shots with Canon 7D Mark II and ever reliable 400mm 5.6 prime plus Canon 1.4x teleconverter Image quality does suffer a bit with the combination but with careful post-processing... one can still pull details out of the raw image. Also, 1.4x give slightly better subject magnification. Stopping down to F9 also help in improving the overall image quality.

Overall the focuss speed is good and focus acquisition is quick too. Not a good weather for BiF shot but I tried and combination worked very well in tracking and focusing.






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Lark Sparrow.. a rarity in the area



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Nov 03, 2014 at 01:15 PM
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p.1 #2 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


The first one is just beautiful. Great detail shown in the crop.


Nov 03, 2014 at 01:27 PM
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p.1 #3 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Thanks for posting these. I have the 400L and wanted to see what the 1.4 and 7DII would do with this combo as I was thinking about adding both


Nov 03, 2014 at 01:32 PM
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p.1 #4 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Kathy White wrote:
The first one is just beautiful. Great detail shown in the crop.


Thanks Kathy!

WrightImage wrote:
Thanks for posting these. I have the 400L and wanted to see what the 1.4 and 7DII would do with this combo as I was thinking about adding both


Sure, I ll be posting more as I get the chance. Another one which shows the amount of details.

60% of the original image.



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Nov 03, 2014 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #5 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Love the colors ox0312.


Nov 03, 2014 at 02:18 PM
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p.1 #6 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Thanks for sharing!


Nov 03, 2014 at 02:27 PM
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p.1 #7 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


The detail looks good. I find the Fall Goldfinch a strange bird to shoot sometimes! The light sure makes a big difference! Ive shot some with the 7d and thought I nailed them and they were a smeared mess detail wise lol. Your higher ISO shots with the 7DII have good feather detail.


Nov 03, 2014 at 02:49 PM
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p.1 #8 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


im confused, surely the 7d2 and 400mm is 640mm? if you add the 1.4 its then 896mm?

or am i wrong? how are you getting 560mm



Nov 03, 2014 at 04:20 PM
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p.1 #9 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


A 400mm lens with a 1.4X extender is focal length of 560mm. That is what is registered with the data for the photo. Since the 7DII is a 1.6 crop sensor camera, the lens combination will have a field of view of a full frame camera and a 896mm lens, but it is still just a 560mm lens combo focal length.

Don't confuse actual focal length with apparent focal length (dare I say "reach").

If you have a bit of time, you might read the threads on "crop factor" or "reach".

Hope this helps.
Steve



Nov 03, 2014 at 04:36 PM
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p.1 #10 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Any crop factor from the camera is not real focal length, and many do not bother calculating the "fake" equivilant focal length. The OP is using a 400 mm lens with a Canon 1.4 extender, and that give a real optical focal length of 560mm, so that is why he is refering to that number, and where it comes from.


Nov 03, 2014 at 04:39 PM
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p.1 #11 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Looks pretty good - thanx for posting ~ Ron


Nov 03, 2014 at 06:58 PM
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p.1 #12 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


bobbyboy uk wrote:
im confused, surely the 7d2 and 400mm is 640mm? if you add the 1.4 its then 896mm?

or am i wrong? how are you getting 560mm


Other in the forum can answer it better but my understanding is that lens is unaware of the camera body it is attached to. It transmits the current focal length (which is always 400mm in case of this prime) to camera and camera stores it as part of the image metadata. This information is standardized in the FF terms.

- In case of intermediary (like 1.4x teleconverter), intermediary modifies the focal length (multiplies the focal lens with 1.4 (400 x 1.4 = 560) ) before sending down to camera.
- Also it appends itself to the name it sends back to camera (EF400mm f/5.6L USM + 1.4x III ). Based on this name, camera performs certain operation like corrections and micro adjustments.

Camera is unaware that a teleconverter is attached. It just sees a lens is attached with this name and focal length.



Nov 03, 2014 at 07:25 PM
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p.1 #13 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


I have been using my 400/5.6 with the 1.4x v.2 extender on my 7D2 and have been surprised at the softness of a lot of my shots. The camera is mounted on a gimbal on a Gitzo tripod and I use a wired remote. I'm wondering if I need to stop down to get greater depth of field. It seems that images are sharp near the focal point, but not so in the rest of the image. It is also true that I have had to use DPP to batch my images into TIFF format for use in Lightroom since Adobe has yet to release a version that reads RAW files. I wonder if that is part of the problem. Any suggestions are welcome.

Jay



Nov 04, 2014 at 02:47 PM
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p.1 #14 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


jaybrams wrote:
I have been using my 400/5.6 with the 1.4x v.2 extender on my 7D2 and have been surprised at the softness of a lot of my shots. The camera is mounted on a gimbal on a Gitzo tripod and I use a wired remote. I'm wondering if I need to stop down to get greater depth of field. It seems that images are sharp near the focal point, but not so in the rest of the image. It is also true that I have had to use DPP to batch my images into TIFF format for use in Lightroom since
...Show more

Best way to provide more info for troubleshooting would be to post a few samples with EXIF attached. Provide an example of a whole frame, and then your final crop of that frame.



Nov 04, 2014 at 02:52 PM
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p.1 #15 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Jaybrams, did you MA the lens & TC combo on the camera? THat can have a large impact on the softness of an image.

Cheers



Nov 04, 2014 at 03:33 PM
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p.1 #16 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


jaybrams wrote:
I have been using my 400/5.6 with the 1.4x v.2 extender on my 7D2 and have been surprised at the softness of a lot of my shots. The camera is mounted on a gimbal on a Gitzo tripod and I use a wired remote. I'm wondering if I need to stop down to get greater depth of field. It seems that images are sharp near the focal point, but not so in the rest of the image. It is also true that I have had to use DPP to batch my images into TIFF format for use in Lightroom since
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Jay,

- Try a static subject like a small toy with Fur etc. Use tripod and Manual Focus (use the 8x zoom on the LCD to focus) on the subject to find the critical focus (let say on eye). Take the shot with wired remote and see if results are good. This will give you the sharpness that lens+1.4x is capable of producing.

- Now try a shot of the same subject with camera Auto Focus system, compare the result... if you see difference.... a micro adjustment is required to correct it. I had to do the micro adjustment with 1.4x III teleconverer (+15 in my case).

Hope that helps.



Nov 04, 2014 at 03:55 PM
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p.1 #17 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


Lenses with TCs attached typically needs to be maf.


Nov 04, 2014 at 03:59 PM
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p.1 #18 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


mitesh wrote:
Best way to provide more info for troubleshooting would be to post a few samples with EXIF attached. Provide an example of a whole frame, and then your final crop of that frame.


+1



Nov 04, 2014 at 04:25 PM
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p.1 #19 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


These are all helpful suggestions. I think I need to improve my shooting technique by getting out some more next weekend and then see if there are improvements. If not, I will try to MA. This lens was very sharp with my old 7D and I need to see how it does without the extender, and then try the extender again. After another weekend, I should have enough samples to see if the problem is me or a needed adjustment.


Nov 04, 2014 at 04:37 PM
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p.1 #20 · Canon 7D2 (Mark II) with Canon 400mm 5.6 + 1.4x Teleconverter Thread


I took this combo to a local park after work. Stupid standard time didn't allow too much time before it got dark, and all the ducks were already in deep shade.

7D2 400 5.6 + 1.4TC (2) by lennycarl08, on Flickr

In the shade

7D2 400 5.6 + 1.4TC by lennycarl08, on Flickr



Nov 04, 2014 at 11:25 PM
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