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p.20 #1 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


We need to lock this thread up until the PhotoPlus Expo....


Sep 24, 2014 at 12:18 PM
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p.20 #2 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


gdanmitchell wrote:
I thought that DR was a component of IQ? ;-)
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The statement "Better DR doesn't mean better IQ" is sort of like writing "the right amount of salt doesn't mean better taste."



Dan, you have used your pseudo posts to squeeze then flip these items so many times and I am really confused reading your messages. Would you enlighten me (us)



Sep 24, 2014 at 01:35 PM
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p.20 #3 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


mttran wrote:
Dan, you have used your pseudo posts to squeeze then flip these items so many times and I am really confused reading your messages. Would you enlighten me (us)


Have mercy with him. He is just confused



Sep 24, 2014 at 01:47 PM
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p.20 #4 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


rdcny wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7079726133/photokina-2014-canon-interview-mirrorless-in-the-very-near-future

Question: "Currently no Canon camera offers more than 22MP. Do your DSLR customers ask for higher resolution?"

Answer: "Yes. We know that many of our customers need more resolution and this is under consideration. In the very near future you can expect us to show something in terms of mirrorless and also a higher resolution sensor."


+1, best thing we hear from canon in years



Sep 24, 2014 at 02:00 PM
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p.20 #5 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


Looking forward to 8K video...


Sep 24, 2014 at 02:20 PM
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p.20 #6 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


alundeb wrote:
Why would I do that? I never claimed that the A7r was better at concert or sports photography. The person I asked, however, claimed an IQ advantage in favor of the 1DX.

You can hope for more low ISO DR in a new Canon 1DsX, but the reality is, it will be only a FF version of current APS-C sensor tech with the same DR limit.


I just love when people insinuate that Canon, the largest photography company in the world, is incapable of innovating ahead of Sony's sensor designs.

Why would you care about actual image quality in a variety of settings rather than just one? Because that is what makes a great camera great. Not just a big sensor in a tiny body.



Sep 24, 2014 at 03:00 PM
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p.20 #7 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


The head honcho at Canon certainly did not rule out a Sony sensor in Psychic 1's predicted 1DSX:

DPR Question: "One thing we’ve learned is that the sensor in the G7X is not made by Canon. Does this represent a new philosophy at Canon?"

Masaya Maeda's Answer: "We select the best sensor, whoever the manufacturer is. That’s our policy."





Sep 24, 2014 at 03:05 PM
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p.20 #8 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


kezeka wrote:
I just love when people insinuate that Canon, the largest photography company in the world, is incapable of innovating ahead of Sony's sensor designs.

Why would you care about actual image quality in a variety of settings rather than just one? Because that is what makes a great camera great. Not just a big sensor in a tiny body.


I just don't love when people get so defensive about Canon. Reality is the tech we have seen. Improved low ISO DR is just speculation. It doesn't seem that Canon have any plans of innovationg ahead of Exmor DR:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1320164

There is no camera that excels in all areas. We pick the tools that work best for our purposes.



Sep 24, 2014 at 03:06 PM
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Focus Locus wrote:
The head honcho at Canon certainly did not rule out a Sony sensor in Psychic 1's predicted 1DSX:

DPR Question: "One thing we’ve learned is that the sensor in the G7X is not made by Canon. Does this represent a new philosophy at Canon?"

Masaya Maeda's Answer: "We select the best sensor, whoever the manufacturer is. That’s our policy."



Yeah but then later on he went on about how they don't look at one little aspect like low ISO DR, but the entire sensor and they strongly feel they have the best overall DSLR sensors and that the 7D2 has the best aps-c sensor. I think it means no Sony sensor for 1DsX or 5D4 and barely any low ISO improvements for those either.
We'll see. Not sure if I will wait now.



Sep 24, 2014 at 03:16 PM
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p.20 #10 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


alundeb wrote:
I just don't love when people get so defensive about Canon. Reality is the tech we have seen. Improved low ISO DR is just speculation. It doesn't seem that Canon have any plans of innovationg ahead of Exmor DR:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1320164

There is no camera that excels in all areas. We pick the tools that work best for our purposes.


And then go into other forums to tell them how much their equipment sucks in those areas. At least that is what I have gathered from a number of Sony and Nikon users lately.



Sep 24, 2014 at 03:39 PM
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kezeka wrote:
And then go into other forums to tell them how much their equipment sucks in those areas. At least that is what I have gathered from a number of Sony and Nikon users lately.


I am invested in both Sony and Canon systems and of course discuss different aspects, good and bad, both here and there. Both Sony and Canon make good efforts in on-sensor phase detect AF, so the gap in AF tracking between DSLR and mirrorless narrows fast.



Sep 24, 2014 at 03:49 PM
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p.20 #12 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


46.1 mega pixels eh? Announced in NYC Photo Plus Expo eh?

Step back in time, at this same prediction made on September 12... TWO YEARS ago:

https://fstoppers.com/gear/461-mp-canon-eos-3d-x-be-announced-photoplus-5140

And discussed on FM beginning September 22, 2012, in this thread here:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1151237




Sep 24, 2014 at 03:54 PM
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p.20 #13 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


Focus Locus

I know that camera has been sitting there for two years and I keep asking CPS if I can test it and they keep telling me it does not exist.

CPS is always the last to know.

BTW, neither of your links was known to me.



Sep 24, 2014 at 04:05 PM
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p.20 #14 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


5fps?....If that's true. I'm impressed for the size of the sensor. Years ago I used the 1DS II for birding at 4 fps. Wasn't bad per se. Except when duck hunting and you have about 2 seconds from liftoff till they disappear. So possibly it will be named the 3D?


Sep 24, 2014 at 04:12 PM
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p.20 #15 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


The 1D X is a great BIF body and the AF is second to none, but 10fps is not necessary for landscapes, events and portraits.

I would not expect less than 7fps.

I would never waste the 3D designation on a body that was not truely 3D.



Sep 24, 2014 at 04:17 PM
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p.20 #16 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


and the best sensor according to Canon is what they produce

Focus Locus wrote:
Masaya Maeda's Answer: "We select the best sensor, whoever the manufacturer is. That’s our policy."






Sep 24, 2014 at 04:23 PM
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p.20 #17 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


kewlcanon wrote:
and the best sensor according to Canon is what they produce


Exactly.



Sep 24, 2014 at 04:53 PM
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p.20 #18 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


skibum5 wrote:
I think it means no Sony sensor for 1DsX or 5D4 and barely any low ISO improvements for those either.
We'll see.


Yes, we'll have to wait and see.

It surely must have crossed their minds that the new 1DsX will be competing against the D810.
So, there's a good chance, IMO, that the new sensor will have class-leading performance - including high DR.
It would be surprising if it doesn't.



Sep 24, 2014 at 05:07 PM
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p.20 #19 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


"I would not expect less than 7fps."

I'm fishing. Is that a guess? a tip? a psychic1 revelation?

Hard for me to believe it would have that ability. As it would be amazing. Saw that limb from the inside Frank. Time for another update from your crystal ball.



Sep 24, 2014 at 05:28 PM
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p.20 #20 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


jjoejr wrote:
Is that a guess? a tip? a psychic1 revelation?


Just an educated guess from a 5fps - 6 year old 1DsIII shooter.



Sep 24, 2014 at 05:34 PM
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