p.1 #1 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
I was sick of seeing wrong colors on my laptop so I recently bought ASUS PA248Q 24 inch monitor.
It came with a CD which has it's ICC profile on it.
I think I have set the profile correct in my laptop (I connect this monitor to my laptop).
But the thing I am confused about is the preset modes on the monitor like "Standard", "sRGB", "Theatrical" and all.. In the list there are two "Custom" presets as well.
So which mode shall I be on to select what the ICC profile is trying to show me?
Right now I am at "Standard" and it doesn't look the best. Red is looking too bright red and white is looking kind of greyish?
Please help me setting this up. I tried reading on the internet but couldn't find anything relevant.
Any suggestion/link/video would be much much appreciated.
p.1 #2 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
sRGB is the preset mode you want. This will essentially give you a standard manufacturer color calibration of sorts. The problem is that the manufacturer is never particularly accurate as there are so many variables when it comes to calibration. It should help but you would be better buying a monitor calibrating puck like an x-rite to really get the best from your monitor in the place where you do your photo work.
p.1 #3 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
If it's a wide gamut display, you probably want "Standard". (Or possibly one of the "Custom" settings, which probably allows some fine-tuning of parameters.)
"sRGB" would instead clip your colors to sRGB, which can be useful for unmanaged applications but completely defeats the purpose of having a wide gamut display in color-managed applications.
p.1 #5 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the PA248Q was a standard gamut monitor.?
In that case setting the monitor mode to sRGB and running the sRGB ICC profile will get you 90% there.
An x-rite or similar calibrator just gets you a much more accurate colour profile, tuned to your video card, your monitor, your room lighting conditions. sRGB out of the box was supposed to be a generic 'good enough' industry colour standard. If you are happy with that - great. If you want more, calibration is the way to go.
p.1 #6 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
Alistair Watson wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the PA248Q was a standard gamut monitor.?
In that case setting the monitor mode to sRGB and running the sRGB ICC profile will get you 90% there.
An x-rite or similar calibrator just gets you a much more accurate colour profile, tuned to your video card, your monitor, your room lighting conditions. sRGB out of the box was supposed to be a generic 'good enough' industry colour standard. If you are happy with that - great. If you want more, calibration is the way to go.
I am totally confused.
So this monitor came calibrated from the company. They even sent me a certificate that the monitor was calibrated and all.
Now when I load the ICC profile they have sent me, which preset shall I set on my monitor, is my question.
In other words, which preset should go with the ICC profile?
Even if I buy a calibrator and use that to calibrate my screen, which preset would I go with?
Right now I am at Standard preset with gamma at 1.8. I think I am missing out on some colors. Some grays are looking totally black in this setting.
p.1 #8 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
First, the monitor is not wide-gamut. It appears to be close to sRGB.
In terms of what preset goes with the profile, I doubt if it makes much difference in the case of this monitor but here are things I would consider:
- If there is some indication that the ICC profile that you installed was specially made during the factory calibration process, then I would assume it to correspond to the sRGB mode.
- If the ICC profile came off a generic set-up disk or downloaded from the Asus site, then I would assume it to be related to the Standard mode preset, which is the default for this monitor.
- You could always contact Asus or post a question on one of the Asus forums and see what they say.
Most monitors these days, even Macs, are set with a gamma of 2.2. If you are currently using 1.8, that alone may be the reason you are seeing compressed shadows. 6500K is the common white point.
TFT Central is a pretty good resource and I suggest that you read through the review there for your monitor. They even make available the custom monitor profile they created and show the related monitor settings so you could try that and see if it works for you. It is probably not going to be as good as a custom calibration and profiling of your monitor but it might be a little better than the factory calibration. The factory calibration only claims to reach an average Delta-E of less than 5, while you will see on the TFT Central site they were able to get to less than 1 with custom calibration and profiling.
p.1 #9 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
Eyeball wrote:
First, the monitor is not wide-gamut. It appears to be close to sRGB.
In terms of what preset goes with the profile, I doubt if it makes much difference in the case of this monitor but here are things I would consider:
- If there is some indication that the ICC profile that you installed was specially made during the factory calibration process, then I would assume it to correspond to the sRGB mode.
- If the ICC profile came off a generic set-up disk or downloaded from the Asus site, then I would assume it to be related to the Standard mode preset, which is the default for this monitor.
- You could always contact Asus or post a question on one of the Asus forums and see what they say.
Most monitors these days, even Macs, are set with a gamma of 2.2. If you are currently using 1.8, that alone may be the reason you are seeing compressed shadows. 6500K is the common white point.
TFT Central is a pretty good resource and I suggest that you read through the review there for your monitor. They even make available the custom monitor profile they created and show the related monitor settings so you could try that and see if it works for you. It is probably not going to be as good as a custom calibration and profiling of your monitor but it might be a little better than the factory calibration. The factory calibration only claims to reach an average Delta-E of less than 5, while you will see on the TFT Central site they were able to get to less than 1 with custom calibration and profiling.
But generally speaking, when you use a calibrator, does it just make a .ICC file and then you go in the system and change the settings or does the clibrator software changes all the setting on your behalf?
Also, when you calibrate your monitor, which preset do you usually? I mean a lot of people here use Dells etc. Don't they have presets?
p.1 #10 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
for most displays, the device creates a .icc file that gets loaded into the VIDEO CARD. You only set the display neutral point and brightness/contrast/etc BEFORE calibration and dont touch them afterwards. On high-end monitors (NEC/Eizo), the display itself gets calibrated/profiled.
p.1 #12 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
Tonight I will try the ICC profile that I downloaded from TFT for my monitor. If it won't work out well, I am buying a calibrating device.
All the money that I have been saving for 35 f/1.4 is going in these things
But then these things are important as well, right?
p.1 #13 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
I would use the monitor in sRGB mode on the monitor. Then load the ICC profile into the display settings on your Windows PC.
Windows generally assumes a gamma value of 2.2, not 1.8.
If you do buy a calibrating device, during calibration you will need to change the settings on the monitor, usually reset to factory default, set sRGB then adjust brightness, contrast, etc., until the calibration software says it is in range of the known calibrated target it will display.
In summary, yes, having a trusted, calibrated monitor is very important.
p.1 #14 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
While the monitor may have been calibrated at the factory, the particular nuances of the video card in your computer and other factors require you to use a calibration device to ensure you are seeing the most accurate color possible from your system with the equipment you're using.
p.1 #15 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
OK, I will throw a one small monkey wrench into this discussion.
I use two different calibrations on my NEC. One is set to a relatively low luminance value, calibrated at 5500K. This is used to process images for printing. The other is set to a higher luminance value for every day internet, etc use.
If you use a luminance value that most monitors are set to there is an excellent chance your images will print to dark.
p.1 #16 · HELP! How to set an ICC Profile on a new monitor ASUS PA248Q?
Recently my cousin got transferred to the place where I live. He is a big gamer (He has an array or 4x3 monitors and I never knew this).
He has some kind of a calibrator that he is going to bring for me to try. If that will show me the real gray color, I will definitely invest in the calibrator.
I always sit at the same place with the same light in the room so I think the ambient light is going to be constant. But yeah I can totally understand teh need of having two kind of settings: One for photo editing and one for normal internet browsing and all.
