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p.1 #1 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


I'm looking for a handheld stabilizer to use with a Sony RX100. Does anyone here know of one or use one that works well?

This will be strictly for shooting video.

Thank you.



Jan 28, 2014 at 01:57 AM
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p.1 #2 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


I have looked at this before when another person asked this. If you go to B&H or (Adorama) and search for camera stabilizers there are a number of inexpensive solutions using a counter weight. If you are willing to spend a lot more money, you can get one with a gyroscope on it.
I would try a cheap one first to see if it makes enough difference.
A string with a tripod screw on one end and a big washer on the other end to step on works at almost no cost.



Jan 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM
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p.1 #3 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


DaveOls wrote:
I have looked at this before when another person asked this. If you go to B&H or (Adorama) and search for camera stabilizers there are a number of inexpensive solutions using a counter weight. If you are willing to spend a lot more money, you can get one with a gyroscope on it.
I would try a cheap one first to see if it makes enough difference.
A string with a tripod screw on one end and a big washer on the other end to step on works at almost no cost.


I have not seen one yet that fits the RX100 (and works effectively). I've looked all over youtube, vimeo. Don't want DIY. I'm not worried about money here. What's this gyroscope thing you mentioned?



Jan 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM
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p.1 #4 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


The RX100 has a built in stabilizer for video. I find it works quite well for this camera.

If you want any sort of "pro" stabilizers, I don't know if you can find one made for such a small camera. It won't be easy to stabilize given such a small center of gravity.

The gyro ones are new. Easily cost $5k and up. Now worried about money, check these out, starting at $15k
http://www.freeflysystems.com/products/moviM10.php

Also if you are considering a steadycam type of stabilizer, it will take you weeks if not months to learn to use them smoothly.

Otherwise, some of these cheaper grips can help a little

I use this for video with my RX100 and Sony NEX cameras. Simple but effective
http://www.amazon.com/Photography-Cinema-pistol-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0073Z49AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390927939&sr=8-1&keywords=video+grip+pc+cinema

Otherwise, something like this is popular for some
http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Professional-Camcorder-Stabilizing-Handle-/dp/B003PBB4ME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390927878&sr=8-1&keywords=video+grip





Jan 28, 2014 at 11:54 AM
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p.1 #5 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


If the RX 100 has a standard tripod mount screw, I don't see why any of these cheaper stabilizers would not work. As the person above mentioned, doesn't the RX 100 have image stabilization?
Also, the gyroscopic stabilizers are very high priced. I would think at least $ 1000 or much more.



Jan 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM
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p.1 #6 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


joe88 wrote:
The RX100 has a built in stabilizer for video. I find it works quite well for this camera.

If you want any sort of "pro" stabilizers, I don't know if you can find one made for such a small camera. It won't be easy to stabilize given such a small center of gravity.

The gyro ones are new. Easily cost $5k and up. Now worried about money, check these out, starting at $15k
http://www.freeflysystems.com/products/moviM10.php

Also if you are considering a steadycam type of stabilizer, it will take you weeks if not months to learn to use them smoothly.

Otherwise, some of
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When I say money is not an issue.......well......uhmmm........$15,000 grand is an issue. I'm talking conventional money here folks.

Anyway......the following apparently won't work with the RX100 because the RX100 is a bit to light. But it looks like the type of thing I need and seems to work beautifully:




Jan 28, 2014 at 12:23 PM
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Well, cinematographers don't talk conventional money. Seriously, video gear, good ones are expensive since Hollywood crew are willing to pay for them. These vide accessories can make your Leica M9 or Nikon D400s look cheap.

The video link you provided is a steadycam type of device. They can run from anywhere $100 and up to $1k but if you have not used one, give it a try and make sure there is a return policy. I mentioned to you, these are not as easy to use and I am not sure if they will even work on a camera as light as the RX100 The balancing alone will take you quite some time, sometimes over 15-30min, and you can't use these when its windy. The pricier ones are easier to balance as they give you more tools and balancing points for fine tuning. It is not something that you can just put on the camera and use it right away. Each time you mount the camera, you have to balance it first. Otherwise the camera will sway when unbalanced. Also these devices normally require a certain technique to shoot smooth video. Due to moment of inertia, you want to move the camera before you move your body and when you end the move, you stop and then slow down the camera and stabilizer. You can find lots of example videos online. An examaple here



Seriously, the stabilizer on the RX100 is really good, and all you need is to brace the camera against your body or use the veritical grip I mentioned, that works wonders and is cheaper than your return postage on the steadicam type of device.



Jan 28, 2014 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #8 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


joe88 wrote:
Well, cinematographers don't talk conventional money. Seriously, video gear, good ones are expensive since Hollywood crew are willing to pay for them. These vide accessories can make your Leica M9 or Nikon D400s look cheap.

The video link you provided is a steadycam type of device. They can run from anywhere $100 and up to $1k but if you have not used one, give it a try and make sure there is a return policy. I mentioned to you, these are not as easy to use and I am not sure if they will even work on a camera as light
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You have me convinced. It looks like too much trouble for something that might not work without massive amounts of time and practice.

What would you recommend I use for a stabilization setting on the Sony RX100 when shooting video? Active or standard?

I am very grateful for the info you have provided Joe.



Jan 28, 2014 at 12:57 PM
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You might want to check this out if you are still looking for a steadicam type device
http://www.glidecam.com/product-iglide.php

Larger Glidecams have been used in big productions, broadcasr, cinema, etc. They have a solid reputation and are well made.




Jan 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM
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p.1 #10 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


joe88 wrote:
You might want to check this out if you are still looking for a steadicam type device
http://www.glidecam.com/product-iglide.php

Larger Glidecams have been used in big productions, broadcasr, cinema, etc. They have a solid reputation and are well made.



I just took a look at the work you published on your web site. It's incredible. Really powerful in so many ways. I admire it. The black and white images especially moved me.

On another note......What would you recommend I use for a stabilization setting on the Sony RX100 when shooting video without a handheld stabilizer? Active or standard?



Jan 28, 2014 at 01:03 PM
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p.1 #11 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


If you're not phased by spending a few thousand dollars, you might want to look at the Sony NEX-VG900 video camera at B&HPhoto. It sells for around $ 3500, but includes two lenses and a memory card free ( a $ 1200 value ). It has a sensor or sensors sizes of 35mm instead of the usual 1/3rd inch sensors. It should have image stabilization also. It may be a 3 sensor ( RGB ) video camera.


Jan 28, 2014 at 01:05 PM
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p.1 #12 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


Tom K. wrote:
What would you recommend I use for a stabilization setting on the Sony RX100 when shooting video? Active or standard?

I am very grateful for the info you have provided Joe.


Tom, glad I could be of help.

I use the active stabilization on the RX100. What this mode does is that it crops the image circle and allows the camera software to stabilize the frame. This function is similar to 3rd party software that you can add-on to imovie and other video editing software.

Some would tell you the "key" to shooting smooth video (on any device or even with a stabilizer rig) is to move smoothly and gently and have some sort of bracing for the camera. So when you shoot video on the move, use your hands as part of the stabilizing "rig", ie move your hands and body slowly as if you are practicing tai-chi or a slow motion dance movement. Starts with a light footstep, almost tiptoe like and you will be surprised how much a difference it can make. Also look at good examples of video footages online.

I found these with a quick google search on RX100 video. Not associated with any of them


This person used 3rd party add on software

This site has some good tips for RX100
http://rungunshoot.com/how-to-set-up-your-sony-rx100-for-cinematic-video/

Have fun!




Jan 28, 2014 at 01:17 PM
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Tom K. wrote:
I just took a look at the work you published on your web site. It's incredible. Really powerful in so many ways. I admire it. The black and white images especially moved me.


Thanks





Jan 28, 2014 at 01:20 PM
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p.1 #14 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


joe88 wrote:
Tom, glad I could be of help.

I use the active stabilization on the RX100. What this mode does is that it crops the image circle and allows the camera software to stabilize the frame. This function is similar to 3rd party software that you can add-on to imovie and other video editing software.

Some would tell you the "key" to shooting smooth video (on any device or even with a stabilizer rig) is to move smoothly and gently and have some sort of bracing for the camera. So when you shoot video on the move, use your hands as part
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Great thanks to you Joe. You have helped me so much.

Took a quick look at the iglide link you sent. This guy has great luck with his. He modified it slightly:



Plus....amazon has them for $129.00



Jan 28, 2014 at 01:30 PM
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p.1 #15 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


Tom, worth trying out at that price. Let us know how it works out.

Just for fun, here is pic of a lightweight rig of mine (strictly recreational use) - Steadicam Merlin 2 on my Sony RX1. Video quality on the RX100 is better but RX1 has 24fps which I prefer and also it works better for low light video. I take this rig out maybe twice a year, just too much hassle.

Cheers!

http://josephow.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v84/p1339781942-5.jpg



Jan 28, 2014 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #16 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


I don't have the RX 100, but I bookmarked the tips link for future reference, Thanks.


Jan 28, 2014 at 02:46 PM
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p.1 #17 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


joe88 wrote:
Tom, worth trying out at that price. Let us know how it works out.

Just for fun, here is pic of a lightweight rig of mine (strictly recreational use) - Steadicam Merlin 2 on my Sony RX1. Video quality on the RX100 is better but RX1 has 24fps which I prefer and also it works better for low light video. I take this rig out maybe twice a year, just too much hassle.

Cheers!

http://josephow.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v84/p1339781942-5.jpg


A thing of beauty.



Jan 28, 2014 at 06:28 PM
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Jan 28, 2014 at 07:34 PM
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p.1 #19 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


Brushless Gimbal are the best and lightest stabilizers, motor-driven.
these are the (best) or cheapest ones from
www.mastortech.com
sailfish SF1 is the one you need: around 700 usd.
the one for DSLR has a cheaper alternative. see the link in a blog about the mastortech-system.
see impressive technical data. very precise stabilization.
cheapest one for smartphones are around 200 usd.



Jan 28, 2014 at 08:00 PM
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p.1 #20 · Does anyone know of a handheld stabilizer for a Sony RX100?


europanorama wrote:
Brushless Gimbal are the best and lightest stabilizers, motor-driven.
these are the (best) or cheapest ones from
www.mastortech.com
sailfish SF1 is the one you need: around 700 usd.
the one for DSLR has a cheaper alternative. see the link in a blog about the mastortech-system.
see impressive technical data. very precise stabilization.
cheapest one for smartphones are around 200 usd.


Wow. Gorgeous. Priced for the SF1 is $599. First time I have seen one of these.



Jan 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM
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