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RCicala
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p.1 #1 · Careful with those A7R sensors


This is not meant to cause a meltdown, simply a head's up. But I've just sent our 3rd (out of about 40 copies) A7R in for a sensor scratch. Remember - rental lenses, heavily used, might be some people using adapter / lens combinations that put lenses too close to the sensor, etc. So I don't expect a personal camera at this high of a risk.

But in all 3 cases the renter claims to have extensive experience with wet cleaning and volunteered that they cleaned the sensor because it got dusty. On the counter argument, our techs have done over 100 cleanings without an issue so far.

May be random event (things happen in the rental world), maybe the glass is a bit softer, maybe being up so close people put a bit more pressure on the brush than they would otherwise. I don't know, but I thought it worth a head's up. This last one looks like the sensor got cleaned by sandblasting

Addenedum - because I know someone will want to know. We haven't had an A7 sensor scratch, and have just as many and nearly the same rental rate. But A7s do seem to go out with native mount lenses, and A7Rs with adapters, so maybe more lens changes with the Rs.












Jan 09, 2014 at 11:24 AM
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p.1 #2 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Sheeesh, who the hell cleaned this, the Hulk?


Jan 09, 2014 at 11:34 AM
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p.1 #3 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Looks like a spit wad


Jan 09, 2014 at 11:36 AM
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p.1 #4 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Roger, if I may ask, what is the cost for sensor replacement on the A7r's?

And thanks for the heads up!!




Jan 09, 2014 at 11:51 AM
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p.1 #5 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Make it an IR camera


Jan 09, 2014 at 11:56 AM
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p.1 #6 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Thanks for the heads up Roger! Buyers of used cameras ought to take heed too.

I wonder if Sony's optional for-fee replacement warranty covers this sort of abuse. If not, throw it in a river and then claim it?

That's some scratch. Wow.

I've not even collected any dust yet on A7r, at least none showing up in my regular weekly shoot the sky test.



Jan 09, 2014 at 12:11 PM
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p.1 #7 · Careful with those A7R sensors


I'll let you know when I find out the cost. I'm hoping it's not Nikonish (last D800e sensor replacement was $1,300). In general Sony is more reasonable on camera repairs (although less reasonable on lens repairs).

If it's awfully high I may see if MaxMax wants to experiment with cover glass thickness, which I've been most interested in doing anyway.

I think the spit wad description is accurate - customer said he sneezed on the sensor and then tried to clean it, stopped when he saw it wasn't going well. . . .

And Fred, I'm with you on the Dust Aid. That's our go to. Although I don't think anything but a wet cleaning is going to get dried up sneeze off.



Jan 09, 2014 at 12:31 PM
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p.1 #8 · Careful with those A7R sensors


SNEEZED on a sensor?! OMG. I suppose someone's dog has eaten a sensor, too??

Roger - maybe someday you could write a column of worst gear abuse excuses ever.

Yeah, I'm curious how the price compares to Nikon, since they are probably not very different in terms of mfg. cost.



Jan 09, 2014 at 12:46 PM
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p.1 #9 · Careful with those A7R sensors


mco_970 wrote:
SNEEZED on a sensor?! OMG.



I've bought used cameras where it looked like that happened to the sensor...



Jan 09, 2014 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #10 · Careful with those A7R sensors


I once sneezed on a 5D sensor. It took a long time to clean it up. The sensor wasn't marked, at all.


Jan 09, 2014 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #11 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Goodness… It almost looks like there's some kind of soft coating the user "cleaned" to the point or melting. I guess that was with a Q-Tip?

*o



Jan 09, 2014 at 12:53 PM
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p.1 #12 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Ouch! With a built in dust cleaning, I would not think frequent cleanings would be necessary. I did have one large dust spec easily cleaned off with a Rocket blower and that is all I have done so far. Will be VERY careful if I have to do more in the future! Thx for the head up!

On the flip side, if you do experiment with sensor glass covers, would love to know the result!



Jan 09, 2014 at 12:53 PM
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p.1 #13 · Careful with those A7R sensors


jcolwell wrote:
I once sneezed on a 5D sensor. It took a long time to clean it up. The sensor wasn't marked, at all.


BAD!

How do you not, like, turn your head or something? Anything??

(SIGH. I know exactly what is going to happen to me next time I'm cleaning a sensor. I am going to learn something, amn't I? )



Jan 09, 2014 at 01:26 PM
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p.1 #14 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Looks like a typical compression fracture.


Jan 09, 2014 at 01:26 PM
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p.1 #15 · Careful with those A7R sensors


At least it wasn't one of your Otus lenses which got scratched up. Hope no one scratches the front or rear element of one of those.



Jan 09, 2014 at 01:55 PM
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p.1 #16 · Careful with those A7R sensors


I've recently read posts where people have recommended using adhesive tape to pull dust off the sensor - perhaps the person in the example above was stupid enough to try this?


Jan 09, 2014 at 02:24 PM
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p.1 #17 · Careful with those A7R sensors


mco_970 wrote:
BAD!

How do you not, like, turn your head or something? Anything??

(SIGH. I know exactly what is going to happen to me next time I'm cleaning a sensor. I am going to learn something, amn't I? )


Yep, classic invite to the Mocker Gods ...



Jan 09, 2014 at 02:26 PM
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p.1 #18 · Careful with those A7R sensors


Thanks for the warning Roger.


Jan 09, 2014 at 03:07 PM
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RCicala wrote:
This is not meant to cause a meltdown, simply a head's up. But I've just sent our 3rd (out of about 40 copies) A7R in for a sensor scratch. ...
Addenedum - because I know someone will want to know. We haven't had an A7 sensor scratch, and have just as many and nearly the same rental rate. But A7s do seem to go out with native mount lenses, and A7Rs with adapters, so maybe more lens changes with the Rs.


Thanks for the heads up. FWIW, I am so far finding sensor on my A7R very easy to clean spotless. On the other hand my A7 came from factory with hairline scratch on sensor. Granted in spot that was making it very hard to see and even when you knew where it was light had to be just under the right angle but scratch none the less.



Jan 09, 2014 at 05:07 PM
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p.1 #20 · Careful with those A7R sensors


It looks like someone tried to mount a G21 Biogon or Hologon.


Jan 09, 2014 at 05:23 PM
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