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p.18 #1 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


I already have 3 Samyang lenses in Canon mount. Guess I will have to get an adapter.


Oct 23, 2013 at 10:11 PM
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p.18 #2 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


galenapass wrote:
AF will probably be crap.


Sony surprise everyone in sensor technology, they can surprise us in AF as well...don't under estimate them



Oct 23, 2013 at 10:20 PM
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p.18 #3 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Stop. I am trying to temper my excitement over this Sony release. If the AF is good also, I'd sell off my Canon DSLRs in a heartbeat.


Oct 23, 2013 at 10:23 PM
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p.18 #4 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


gdanmitchell wrote:
Cameras using this technology have been used by expert photographers and videographers to capture photographs of subjects that cannot be anticipated.

This isn't a question of expertise. (That argument could as well be used to reject digital SLR cameras, 35mm cameras, handheld cameras, roll film...)

Dan


I was mostly referring to the tech that would decide which objects or subjects to follow and take control of the camera. Or the idea that a camera will decide when someone is smiling and decide when to take a picture.

I do like the idea of a rolling buffer that captures the seconds before you press the shutter. That is a very useful feature.



Oct 23, 2013 at 10:26 PM
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p.18 #5 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


mttran wrote:
Samyang offers all E-Mount for what they have available now in FF. Please, make a note of this


Soon will be Sigma & Tamron to follow, Man this A7 twin to be a real killer to most FF camera MFG. Sony has top notch Engineers & MBAs working for them (maybe they got laid off from canon and nikon)



Oct 23, 2013 at 10:31 PM
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p.18 #6 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Now for birding feather detail will be amazing. Hmm A7R and 500 f/4 might also be worth trying out!


Here's hoping that you won't require that the birds be "taxidermied" in order to acquire focus, what with the blazing AF this body is reputed to have.


Glenn



Oct 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM
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p.18 #7 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


galenapass wrote:
Stop. I am trying to temper my excitement over this Sony release. If the AF is good also, I'd sell off my Canon DSLRs in a heartbeat.

That is exactly how I feel.

If the A7R AF is "good enough" for me (accurate, but not necessarily fast w lots of bells and whistles), I might say bye bye to my 5D3.



Oct 26, 2013 at 03:51 AM
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p.18 #8 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Glenn NK wrote:
Here's hoping that you won't require that the birds be "taxidermied" in order to acquire focus, what with the blazing AF this body is reputed to have.


Glenn




That's what I was thinking.

We might have to coin a new acronym for bird photography with the A7R: BIC = Birds in Coma



Oct 26, 2013 at 06:11 AM
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p.18 #9 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


It'll be fine for BIF (BIF = Birds in formaldehyde)...


Oct 26, 2013 at 06:29 AM
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p.18 #10 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Another trick to use for BIF is to tie a piece of string to the bird's leg and let him fly in circles and if you prefocus at the length of string, you're bound to get some sharp shots each time he comes around to the same spot.

http://p11997.ipscdn.com/public/style_emoticons/default/gtfo2.gif



Oct 26, 2013 at 06:35 AM
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Gochugogi wrote:
Sheesh, that A7R is one ugly yuppie puppy!

A+



Oct 26, 2013 at 07:38 AM
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p.18 #12 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


fotografur wrote:
A+


Sony just needs to make sure that can always position the camera so that a Pentax K-01 is always in shot

Now Sony is is veritably beautiful compared to this abomination
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/2b26185e5517b65e36931ba73817f1a2;w720;h480;cffffff/K01_angle_front.jpg



Oct 26, 2013 at 07:52 AM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Sony just needs to make sure that can always position the camera so that a Pentax K-01 is always in shot

Now Sony is is veritably beautiful compared to this abomination
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/2b26185e5517b65e36931ba73817f1a2;w720;h480;cffffff/K01_angle_front.jpg




Oct 26, 2013 at 08:27 AM
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p.18 #14 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Gochugogi wrote:
Sheesh, that A7R is one ugly yuppie puppy!

fotografur wrote:
A+

Pixel Perfect wrote:
Sony just needs to make sure that can always position the camera so that a Pentax K-01 is always in shot

Now Sony is is veritably beautiful compared to this abomination
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/2b26185e5517b65e36931ba73817f1a2;w720;h480;cffffff/K01_angle_front.jpg

Where does the lens hood attach?

EBH



Oct 26, 2013 at 08:38 AM
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p.18 #15 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Steve Huff has some quick test samples with the 12mm Voigtlander on A7 and A7r here:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/10/25/quick-samples-from-sony-a7-and-a7r-with-12mm-voigtlander/

I can’t really say much about the quality, because they are all random snaps at high ISO, and It’s a 12mm lens, so an extreme test. But looks pretty good i.m.o.



Oct 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM
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p.18 #16 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Lots of 24.3MP A7 shots uploaded on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Sony+A7 most Zeiss and Leica lenses but no EF sample yet. Sorry for the image size, they look better this way so you can judge them.

DR samples look so fine, highlights shadows transition look very smooth. Pleasant IQ and AF is not bad either
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5538/10382018006_3bfab2a9fd_h.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7333/10382126113_aaf85bb7d0_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3715/10381991186_11fc7494ef_h.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7393/10332622483_a58091d809_h.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5499/10382167833_ef9acb1b48_h.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2873/10381985804_7449e0e596_h.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7366/10332746975_3bb281f140_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3794/10382011066_c520e3f2ca_h.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5542/10381977756_969c8512c1_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3704/10381966195_d07e11b3c6_h.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5471/10381971075_7669308f9d_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/10370186425_66c30acd98_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3785/10332395536_f3988fc57a_h.jpg

hardly to see noise nor banding. Click for 100%: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/10381966724_60224fcd1f_o.jpg

I don't see any canon cam can beat A7's IQ, let-a-lone A7r. Same performance just like D60X and D800(e)



Oct 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Luckily I'm not much into portraits as I'd have to start using Gaussian blur a lot more.

Only a few days ago the argument that was in fashion for those looking to pooh-pooh the camera was "the lenses aren't going to be good enough to " or "there's no way you'll be able to get that much resolution out of the sensor." Now the new trend is going to be "Sony's sensor is too sharp!"



Oct 26, 2013 at 03:52 PM
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kdrk888 wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted before. Too sharp?

http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899


Too sharp, no. Too much sharpening in post, yes.



Oct 26, 2013 at 04:30 PM
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mttran wrote:
Lots of 24.3MP A7 shots uploaded on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Sony+A7 most Zeiss and Leica lenses but no EF sample yet. Sorry for the image size, they look better this way so you can judge them.

DR samples look so fine, highlights shadows transition look very smooth. Pleasant IQ and AF is not bad either
hardly to see noise nor banding. Click for 100%: [url=http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/10381966724_60224fcd1f_o.jpg

I]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/10381966724_60224fcd1f_o.jpg

I[/url] don't see any canon cam can beat A7's IQ, let-a-lone A7r. Same performance just like D60X and D800(e)


I hope there is a lot more useful info the RAW files. Perhaps there is too much NR, but most of the jpegs don't look very good for detail.

EBH



Oct 26, 2013 at 05:05 PM
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Okay, guys, I was a while offline because I was outside and actually taking photos with my 5D MkII cameras . I recommend we all enjoy the beautiful fall weather (where ever this is possible climate-wise).

I have a question in regard to the Metabones adapter which can be used with the A7(R) cameras: it looks like there could be potentially two of them used with Canon EF lenses, one with the glass element (improving the lens speed by one stop indirectly by its built) and the other MkII/III(?) one which functions just like an extension tube without glass element. For the latter one - I didn't find described anywhere how many stops of light is lost with this adapter. Does anybody know?

CORRECTION: I just saw that Metabones updated their website in regard to the MkII adapter stating it does not work with the Sony A7 series.
So this leaves us with the option of using the "smart adapter MkIII" only? This one doesn't seem to have a glass element - so is there a loss of stop(s) of light?

Edited on Oct 26, 2013 at 05:55 PM · View previous versions



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