p.43 #3 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Sony plans to release an FE native wide zoom next year, and most likely a short telephoto. Both will AF and be the right size for the camera. Those are old fab ZA monsters weighing around a kilo each, not ideal perched on an adapter that will rob IQ as well to give you AF. Plenty of great manual lenses if you can focus manually, evern at 135mm like Leica's great old 135mm f4 from decades ago, weighs 400 grams.
p.43 #4 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
My must-have A mount is the 135 T4.5 STF which is the last word on Gaussian-blur bokeh. It would compete against my current fav, the Elmar 135 mentioned by Philip. Both Leitz versions (Tele-Elmar and previous long Elmar) have massive metal build and are quite unwieldy, so the STF should not be a shock for handling on the A7r. Wanting the STF on a FF sensor has been my dream, but I was not willing to take the Sony DSLR route (A900, A850, etc).
p.43 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
rico wrote:
My must-have A mount is the 135 T4.5 STF which is the last word on Gaussian-blur bokeh. It would compete against my current fav, the Elmar 135 mentioned by Philip. Both Leitz versions (Tele-Elmar and previous long Elmar) have massive metal build and are quite unwieldy, so the STF should not be a shock for handling on the A7r. Wanting the STF on a FF sensor has been my dream, but I was not willing to take the Sony DSLR route (A900, A850, etc).
The 135STF really is a lens that simply isn't on any other camera system, it's not terribly sharp and has purple fringing, but it's bokeh never looks bad at any distance. Also, no vignetting wide open, and no distortion either. An interesting detail is that this lens is physically f/2.8, but lets in as much light as f/4.5 due to the STF glass.
p.43 #10 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
rji2goleez wrote:
....They expect the camera AND the 24-70 to be available the week of November 4th. I keep calling because that seems sooner than anything I've seen published to date but they claim this is coming from the manufacturer. They also remind me that this is subject to change. I also want to make sure they don't hold on shipping the camera to wait for the lens . . .
Within the US we always ship back orders & pre-orders as they come in; we only wait for a complete order when an order is shipping overseas because of shipping costs and import tax implications for customers.
Your order will ship out to you on the day we receive it into the distribution center!
Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador [email protected]
p.43 #11 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Helen Oster wrote:
Within the US we always ship back orders & pre-orders as they come in; we only wait for a complete order when an order is shipping overseas because of shipping costs and import tax implications for customers.
Your order will ship out to you on the day we receive it into the distribution center!
Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador [email protected]
Sounds good! I'm very excited to get my hands on my copy.
p.43 #12 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I preodered the A7r to go along with my D800 so I can used my Zeiss 100mm F/2 and 50mm F/2 MP ZF.2 with focus peaking because we all know that the D800 live implementation isn't the greatest.
I wonder if I should sell the 50mm MP for the 55mm f/1.8 FE to take advantage of autofocus. Every time I see the 55mm samples the more it gets tempting.
Do you think IQ of the 55 F/1.8 will be on par with the Zeiss 50mm MP?
p.43 #13 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
rodizzle33 wrote:
I preodered the A7r to go along with my D800 so I can used my Zeiss 100mm F/2 and 50mm F/2 MP ZF.2 with focus peaking because we all know that the D800 live implementation isn't the greatest.
I wonder if I should sell the 50mm MP for the 55mm f/1.8 FE to take advantage of autofocus. Every time I see the 55mm samples the more it gets tempting.
Do you think IQ of the 55 F/1.8 will be on par with the Zeiss 50mm MP?
Based on the samples presented here the 55 far outperforms the MP at the edges wide-open at infinity.
p.43 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I don't expect too many complaints about the 55mm apart from RRP grumbles. 3D, sure, aided and abetted by the great clarity and processing engine and no AA and 36Mp...
Really Sony are on a winner already with FE lenses, there may come a time in the not too distant future where they are very popular indeed. No talk about no good native lenses like with NEX's release.
When you think about future 'NEXs' in APS-C, the FE lenses need to be very good in the edges/corners otherwise they might done duty on the crop cameras instead of the a7/a7r. Want a good native E mount 50mm? - FE 35/2.8 on NEX7 and successors, and so on. [It's a pretty good option for those with both E formats anyway.]
They have a strong business case to have them work very well right across the frame.
More grist for the mill from a Minolta 100/2.8 macro plus Sony's (SLT) LAEA-4, a few in mid ISOs :
p.43 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
rico wrote:
Even more than the CZ P100/2 C/Y?
Though I have not owned that lens, I can say yes simply because what I liked about the Minolta 100/2 AF is not available with the Zeiss - AF, more compact size and less weight without any sacrifice to IQ/ performance. The Minolta offered incredible IQ/sharpness even wide open (and I believe there is a comparison floating around here showing it against the Zeiss), gorgeous bokeh, and extremely natural/subtle color and tone rendition. The rendering is more clasic Leica like than Zeiss like. This lens is up there with the best lenses I have ever used.
p.43 #19 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Matt Grum wrote:
You could always crop your images to match the field of view of a 58mm lens
Well yeah, but I'd have to crop to around ~80mm FOV
For me, my shooting goes from about 17mm to max of about 50mm (preferring 40mm max), then jumps usually to 85mm-200mm.
Between 50 and 85 or so (maybe 80) is just....nothing.
Were it a 40mm FE 1.8, I'd probably already have my preorder in As such, I'm going to wait on the system and see what shakes out.
p.43 #20 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Really tempted, the A7 is exactly the camera I have wanted ever since I sold my D700. Reasonble price, not to say cheap, but there are no dirt-cheap-but-great-lenses options like for Nikon or Canon FF DSLR's pushing up the total price for a complete system.
I'd be happy with a 35 mm plus a short tele. Not really sure what lenses to opt for, the eligible alt options (not putting a clumsy SLR lens on this one), perhaps a 40/2 Rokkor-M but it's "only" about half the price of the new Zeiss 35/2.8 which seems stellar. I'm sure the Rokkor will have less IQ, but plenty more character and a stop faster but no AF. Tempted by a Summarit 75/2.5 as the short tele but $$$ and no af.
Considering the 24-70 Zeiss, it would basically do everything I want and with OSS but how fun is a f/4 zoom! Also a lot of cash, and making the camera bit clumsy.
. That is no-man's land for me. 