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p.30 #1 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


SLR Club (Korean site) has posted a review on the A7 and A7R with many samples using the FE 35mm f/2.8. These samples show the performance of this lens wide-open. The images are not full-size but seem to have great detail with a beautiful bokeh. It's unfortunate the page can't be translated. See images here:
http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=newproduct_sony&page=1&divpage=2&ss=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=10167



Oct 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM
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p.30 #2 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Thanks Fred. The pic of it next to NEX 7 w/ the 24/1.8 on the 7 is interesting. I didn't realize how small the 35 actually is. Sweeeeet.


Oct 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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p.30 #3 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


I wish I spoke Korean because this video looks interesting:




Oct 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM
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p.30 #4 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


snapsy wrote:
I wish I spoke Korean because this video looks interesting:



On youtube you can add english CC (caption) to videos but the translation is far from accurate.
It's actually comic.



Oct 22, 2013 at 01:12 PM
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p.30 #5 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


mco_970 wrote:
Thanks Fred. The pic of it next to NEX 7 w/ the 24/1.8 on the 7 is interesting. I didn't realize how small the 35 actually is. Sweeeeet.


The good news translates to weight (and volume) too.

Weight: The A7r and FE 35/2.8 weigh 585g (just over a pound). The D800 and Sigma 35/1.4 DG weigh 1,665g (3 2/3 pounds).



Oct 22, 2013 at 01:42 PM
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p.30 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Sorry if it has been covered, but as the A7(/r) have NFC and Wifi have anyone seen or know if you can get the camera maneuverable via a smartphone such as e.g. the Canon 6D?


Oct 22, 2013 at 02:02 PM
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wfrank wrote:
Sorry if it has been covered, but as the A7(/r) have NFC and Wifi have anyone seen or know if you can get the camera maneuverable via a smartphone such as e.g. the Canon 6D?


not sure you can make it walk or run, but supposedly we'll have smart phone apps for use as remote.



Oct 22, 2013 at 02:08 PM
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p.30 #8 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


At 2 full stops slower. Not really surprising that a 35/2.8 is a lot lighter than a 35/1.4.

A 300mm f/5.6 is a lot lighter than a 300mm f/2.8 too, but it's not exactly a fair comparison.

michaelwatkins wrote:
The good news translates to weight (and volume) too.

Weight: The A7r and FE 35/2.8 weigh 585g (just over a pound). The D800 and Sigma 35/1.4 DG weigh 1,665g (3 2/3 pounds).




Oct 22, 2013 at 02:10 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
At 2 full stops slower. Not really surprising that a 35/2.8 is a lot lighter than a 35/1.4.

A 300mm f/5.6 is a lot lighter than a 300mm f/2.8 too, but it's not exactly a fair comparison.



I'm looking at it the other way - A7 + 35/2.8 will not be much heavier than 5N and 24/1.8, and DOF will be similar-ish. I can plop the 35 on the 5N that I plan to keep, for a nice 50mm FOV. I'll also keep my Sig 35 for Nikon, and can adapt it. It was actually pretty stellar on 5N wide open, the few times I tried it.

The glass is half full, and I am digging the Kool-Aid.



Oct 22, 2013 at 02:29 PM
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uhoh7 wrote:
not sure you can make it walk or run, but supposedly we'll have smart phone apps for use as remote.


funny

Someone from the knowledgeable part of the crowd that knows? I am talking about getting the VF on eg an iPhone screen, change settings and make the shot. Thought this was obvious.

The NEX 5T can transfer images wirelessly which is neat and fine, but tech doesnt limit to that.


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Oct 22, 2013 at 02:48 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
At 2 full stops slower. Not really surprising that a 35/2.8 is a lot lighter than a 35/1.4.

A 300mm f/5.6 is a lot lighter than a 300mm f/2.8 too, but it's not exactly a fair comparison.



Ok, with the 35 f/2.8 Ai-S it would weigh 1140 grams and that doesn't even include the battery. The bottom line is that the D800 combo weighs over twice as much and even though it is a MF lens (which should save weight) the 35 f/2.8 Ai-S also weighs twice as much.



Oct 22, 2013 at 02:52 PM
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Remote shutter is included in the a7 cameras.

http://sonyalphanex.blogspot.com/2012/09/nex-5r-smart-remote-control-app-in.html

wfrank wrote:
funny

Someone from the knowledgeable part of the crowd that knows? I am talking about getting the VF on eg an iPhone screen, change settings and make the shot. Thought this was obvious.

The NEX 5T can transfer images wirelessly which is neat and fine, but tech doesnt limit to that.




Oct 22, 2013 at 02:56 PM
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p.30 #13 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Here is an A7(r) product guide:

http://www.alphaforum.net/bro2013/a7_a7R_ProductGuide.pdf



Oct 22, 2013 at 06:05 PM
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p.30 #14 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


And focusing a 35/2.8 might present some level of difficulty to many D800 users.

You would still have the last gen sensor in a 1000 gram body that looks like a flotation device and takes a battery that weighs half the 35/2.8. Take a spare and it's about the same weight.

585 grams is a mere 100 grams more than an RX1, by the time you add a grip and case, it's a wash. Sony gives you two ways to shoot 35mm with a light carry, AF or focus aids. One has a 36Mp sensor...the other lens-sensor matching and an extra stop. And beautiful bokeh, which is becoming a hallmark of recent Sony cameras and CZ lenses made for them.



Oct 22, 2013 at 06:32 PM
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hiepphotog wrote:
The only thing the A7 shares in common with the A99 is the MP. Otherwise, I don't see anything of the A7 in the A99. Choosing the A7 over the R versions is more likely because of the less noise at the pixel level and less constraint on the computational power (both of which are because of the less MP).


Actually that is not really true. The A7 and A-99 share the same FF sensor not just the megapixel count. There is nothing really new about the A7 sensor. The A7 does *not* have a new on-sensor phase detection different from the depth map pixels available on the A-99. (see http://www.chipworks.com/components/com_wordpress/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Fontaine_Innovative-Technology-Elements-for-Large-and-Small-Pixel-Imaging-Devices.pdf for information about the A-99's AF pixels) . Both the A7 and A-99 sensor & firmware cannot compete with the AF performance of the Canon 70D which actually has a novel and impressive dual-pixel phase detection system that can compete against traditional SLR auto-focusing.

The A7's AF performance is still in the same ballpark of the A7r's for most purposes and neither can handle continuous AF tracking of moving subjects.

In fact if you want to shoot Alpha lenses with your A7, Sony will sell you a full frame LA-EA adapter that has a traditional dedicated phase detection sensor along with a translucent mirror. There is no option for a fully A-mount FF LA-EA adapter for the A7 which does not come with light robbing translucent mirror and AF sensor.



Oct 22, 2013 at 09:20 PM
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p.30 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


I am glad you have tested this AF.


Oct 22, 2013 at 09:29 PM
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p.30 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Sony announced both an LAEA4 and LAEA3. The 3 does not have the mirror or AF.


Oct 22, 2013 at 09:36 PM
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p.30 #18 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


theophilus wrote:
Sony announced both an LAEA4 and LAEA3. The 3 does not have the mirror or AF.


the 3 still supports CDAF for certain lenses doesn't it?




Oct 22, 2013 at 09:40 PM
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p.30 #19 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


snapsy wrote:
Here is an A7(r) product guide:

http://www.alphaforum.net/bro2013/a7_a7R_ProductGuide.pdf


Really nice product guide. I actually learned something in the EVF info:

"Even bokeh is displayed with all the subtle characteristics that will appear in your final image. This is a
decisive advantage over optical view-finders, which display bokeh distorted by the focusing screen".

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5540407/bokeh.jpg



Oct 22, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Really nice product guide. I actually learned something in the EVF info:

"Even bokeh is displayed with all the subtle characteristics that will appear in your final image. This is a
decisive advantage over optical view-finders, which display bokeh distorted by the focusing screen".

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5540407/bokeh.jpg


i'm sure i've mentioned this before in my rambling diatribes about why i prefer evfs to slr ovfs.

clearly you weren't paying attention.




Oct 22, 2013 at 10:56 PM
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