p.26 #1 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
For me its the A7R and 24-70 ZA f/4. I see Samyang has already committed to their 14, 24 and 85's so the 14 and 85 will be tempting. From there I'm hoping my legacy lens will take over. Fingers crossed on the Rokker 58 f1.2!
p.26 #2 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
ct8282 wrote:
Apologies is already posted or you have seen this already elsewhere, but it's the best hands on video I can find....
I have been backwards and forwards with my decision to get one of these, but the more I read about it, the more it seems like the 'almost' perfect camera for me. I haven't picked up my D4 or D800 for a long time, with my X100s being used all the time. The A7R would give me the ability to capture the portraits I love doing with my Nikons and prime glass, in a package that I would be happy to take out the door everyday instead of thinking that I can't be bothered to lug my Nikon around all day because it's too big and cumbersome.
I think Sony have hit the ball out the park to be honest. The slower fps and AF of the A7R will not trouble me in the slightest for portrait stuff. The final. IQ is key and this camera will rule in that regard. I also read that it has eye focus too which will make it nice and easy to ensure my subjects eyes are the point of focus.
I will buy this camera. Any news on when the lenses are released in the UK? I can only find pre-orders for the camera bodies but I want the 55mm f1.8 to go with it. ...Show more →
Eye focus: Not sure if this can be used any other way than autofocus...which means FE lenses...any idea?
Its a super feature. It was there on my OMD and it does wonders. You learn the difference between sharp focus and super sharp focus.
p.26 #3 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
millsart wrote:
A blanket statement that you can mount any lens at its native focal length seems pretty awesome, but if the "fine print", so to speak, turns out to revel that you have to live with color shifts and smearing for a majority of them, then its maybe not quite all its cracked up to be.
I'm not saying its a bad camera, I know I've got one ordered, but we may find its not quite the "holy grail" of and and all alt glass we first had hoped.
the sky is falling the sky is falling.
the fuss over A7 RF performance is hysterical. Did we expect that one to work well? I didn't.
let's just wait and see what really happens. Then we can freak out.
p.26 #4 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I guess I'm holding out that much of what has been seen so far has been with preproduction models and they have a chance to tweak them yet. Starting out, I've ordered the a7R with the 55/1.8 and 24-70/4. That, along with a metabones smart adapter III and my Zeiss ZE glass will get me started in a big way. I still believe this will be a great camera.
p.26 #5 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I need some advice please peeps. I can't seem to find the 55mm f1.8 on pre-order in the uk for starters so if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be helpful.
However,, I will be planning to use my Nikon glass on the camera. Is this the right adaptor I will need....
p.26 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
ct8282 wrote:
I need some advice please peeps. I can't seem to find the 55mm f1.8 on pre-order in the uk for starters so if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be helpful.
However,, I will be planning to use my Nikon glass on the camera. Is this the right adaptor I will need....
Or is the any others I should consider. I'm guessing I will lose AF with these adapters?
I saw it all for preorder on Wex. I have it all on the basket. However, I haven't pulled the trigger as it would mean parting with my D800. Not sure about it.
From what i gather, you will loose AF and setting the aperture is not as straightforward as it used to be for nikon G series..
p.26 #7 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Is there a F to E mount adapter that does AF? I read Canon guys are luckier...
ct8282 wrote:
I need some advice please peeps. I can't seem to find the 55mm f1.8 on pre-order in the uk for starters so if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be helpful.
However,, I will be planning to use my Nikon glass on the camera. Is this the right adaptor I will need....
p.26 #8 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
I'm not too familiar with the Sony cameras before the announcement, but it looks to me like the A7 is a lot like the more expensive A99 minus ibis? For those that are going A7, is there a deciding factor for you other than improved autofocus over the A7R?
p.26 #9 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
millsart wrote:
I'm not saying its a bad camera, I know I've got one ordered, but we may find its not quite the "holy grail" of and and all alt glass we first had hoped.
p.26 #10 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
cocosphere wrote:
I'm not too familiar with the Sony cameras before the announcement, but it looks to me like the A7 is a lot like the more expensive A99 minus ibis? For those that are going A7, is there a deciding factor for you other than improved autofocus over the A7R?
The only thing the A7 shares in common with the A99 is the MP. Otherwise, I don't see anything of the A7 in the A99. Choosing the A7 over the R versions is more likely because of the less noise at the pixel level and less constraint on the computational power (both of which are because of the less MP).
p.26 #11 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Guari wrote:
I saw it all for preorder on Wex. I have it all on the basket. However, I haven't pulled the trigger as it would mean parting with my D800. Not sure about it.
From what i gather, you will loose AF and setting the aperture is not as straightforward as it used to be for nikon G series..
You're in the same camp as me then. I've just sold my D800 today in fact. I'm making the trade. I have my D4 and this is my go to over the D800 anyway. The A7R will do what I had the D800 for, in a smaller and more portable package anyway.
I realise I will lose the AF now, but I can set the aperture if I get an adaptor with an aperture ring, I think??
p.26 #12 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
ct8282 wrote:
I realise I will lose the AF now, but I can set the aperture if I get an adaptor with an aperture ring, I think??
Will check Wex right now. Thanks.
Unfortunately, you can't set to a precise aperture value. You have do a quick test to figure out the corresponding aperture at each number on the aperture ring of your adapter. Definitely not as intuitive as the "smart" adapter...
p.26 #13 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
hiepphotog wrote:
Unfortunately, you can't set to a precise aperture value. You have do a quick test to figure out the corresponding aperture at each number on the aperture ring of your adapter. Definitely not as intuitive as the "smart" adapter...
Ok, that's interesting thank you. Do you have further details or know where I can read about this in more detail please.
p.26 #14 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
hiepphotog wrote:
Unfortunately, you can't set to a precise aperture value. You have do a quick test to figure out the corresponding aperture at each number on the aperture ring of your adapter. Definitely not as intuitive as the "smart" adapter...
On the other hand, why would you need to know what aperture you are using? With live view at working aperture, you will see DOF, bokeh, aberrations and diffraction softening when stopping down.
p.26 #15 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Makten wrote:
On the other hand, why would you need to know what aperture you are using? With live view at working aperture, you will see DOF, bokeh, aberrations and diffraction softening when stopping down.
For flashes or strobes?
...but then... why switch from Nikon?
p.26 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
The 55mm is already looming as a star lens, a great performer on a high Mp sensor with no AA. Even if users did nothing other than buy this lens they will have a fabulous camera.
The 55mm MTF indicate it might head into the very top rank, lines are virtually parallel even wide open, with a steady fall-off, and all of frame high performance stopped down. Three asph elements, nine blade aperture, moisture sealed, IF. At 281 grams that makes the body/lens/battery around 740 grams all up.Pretty good AF, better than RX1.
Fingers crossed on the 24-70 zoom, seven blade aperture but 'circular' and loads of asph surfaces, still no MTF I can find. But with 5 asph surfaces, an ED element and OSS it is specced like a prime, so it's hard to see it being other than very good. What other FF mid zoom weighs 425 grams?
p.26 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Makten wrote:
On the other hand, why would you need to know what aperture you are using? With live view at working aperture, you will see DOF, bokeh, aberrations and diffraction softening when stopping down.
Well, you need to know the pros and cons at each aperture settings. For instance, my lens has the sharpest center at f/5.6 and sharpest corner at f/8. If I know this ahead of time, I would know what to set when I shoot a certain scene. You definitely don't want to zoom in and check out the entire frame before you shoot. Some lens has a bit better bokeh stopping down just a wee bit. And if you know this, you would pick those aperture over WO. Essentially, you need to relearn your lens behavior at these new settings.
p.26 #18 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
ct8282 wrote:
Ok, that's interesting thank you. Do you have further details or know where I can read about this in more detail please.
I don't have a specific place for you to read about it. But I have used a Nikon adapter on a NEX before. If you look at the Novoflex adapter (less intuitive design), there is no numbering system. You have to mark the adapter to get repeatable result. The Metabones has numbering system (more intuitive), but still, you need to relearn your lens behavior at each setting, unless you only shoot wide open.
p.26 #19 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
uhoh7 wrote:
the sky is falling the sky is falling.
the fuss over A7 RF performance is hysterical. Did we expect that one to work well? I didn't.
let's just wait and see what really happens. Then we can freak out.
I for one could care less about RF performance, assuming, that Sony comes out with some excellent FE glass in focal lengths I want, and at prices I find reasonable
The 55mm already looks like a winner, as the price is fair and the performance seems top notch. I'll gladly take AF over MF any day of the week, especially with things like, gasp, face detect AF
Give me a FE 21mm f4, and a ZE 90mm f2 for $1500 or so each and assuming again that they are good optically, I'll gladly give up any m-mount glass.
Maybe use something like a Minolta Rokkor 135 for a rarely used tele option and it would be an amazing kit in my book, that gives both day to day shooting convenience and also stellar options for landscapes and other serious photo work
p.26 #20 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Thanks Fred, the a7r effectively gets an extra reinforcing plate across the front of the camera with metal anchor points in all directions, encasing the front in metal. Should stiffen the body against torsional loads and deformation. Both mounts looks strong in such small bodies.
