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p.13 #1 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


So I'm a little confused here the A7R is compatible with Full Frame E-mount lens will my existing e-mount lens such as 55-200, 50 1.8, 35 1.8 etc work or will the existing e-mount glass hinder the resolution of the full frame sensor


Oct 16, 2013 at 07:38 PM
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p.13 #2 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Betacamman wrote:
I think it's a pretty good design. Not enough to make me jump from M4/3, but the price point is quite attractive.

But why not put Steadyshot in the body?


Look how large the silver SSS unit around the sensor for the A99 is. It is much easier to implement this on a smaller sensor, if you want to keep a small camera body:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/11/sony-a99-teardown.jpg

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Oct 16, 2013 at 07:40 PM
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Ray Still wrote:
So I'm a little confused here the A7R is compatible with Full Frame E-mount lens will my existing e-mount lens such as 55-200, 50 1.8, 35 1.8 etc work or will the existing e-mount glass hinder the resolution of the full frame sensor


The camera will auto-crop an aps-c sized portion of the frame, so it'd be just like shooting the NEX-5N. Or, you can turn that feature off, and there will be heavy vignetting.



Oct 16, 2013 at 07:40 PM
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p.13 #4 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Full size samples from flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arron/sets/72157636621626295/with/10311755685/



Oct 16, 2013 at 07:56 PM
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serhan_ wrote:
Small jpg samples with:

A7R
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fdcdv.zol.com.cn%2F404%2F4049906.html

A7
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fdcdv.zol.com.cn%2F404%2F4049907.html

It looks like they also included the same photos from Sony.jp website.


The A7 files look damn good to me despite the 7r being better.



Oct 16, 2013 at 08:03 PM
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p.13 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


michael49 wrote:
1. That FF look. I don't care how you define it, but you can't deny it.



100% agree. Many would argue otherwise though....



Oct 16, 2013 at 08:11 PM
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If its similar to the NEX sound I can see why it'd be labelled loud. While it may not be in terms of volume, the actual sharpness of the NEX shutter sound tends to be more pronounced than, say a 1Ds..

Definitely more noticeable in an echo-y room.

millsart wrote:
I've read some reviews which stated that "loud" is subjective. Its loud compared to a leaf shutter RX1, but I've also read it is still quieter than some DSLR's.





Oct 16, 2013 at 08:15 PM
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p.13 #8 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


+1.

Gary Clennan wrote:
100% agree. Many would argue otherwise though....




Oct 16, 2013 at 08:16 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
I'd love to see how my 24 TS-E II and 24-70 II perform along with some Zeiss glass.


And I can't help wondering what my Leica APO lenses will do on the 7r.



Oct 16, 2013 at 08:36 PM
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I think it was a very good move from Sony to have some high quality Zeiss lenses available immediately. The first samples are very good because of this and that's a good start.


Oct 16, 2013 at 08:49 PM
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telyt wrote:
And I can't help wondering what my Leica APO lenses will do on the 7r.


Doug,

Providing I do in fact keep my Pre-order, I will see what I can do. But, I am not sure if I will have any bird photos with the 280mm f4 Apo Telyt. I am somewhat out of practice and do not have any blinds in the area. But, Landscapes, I think that one I will be able to provide, but it will be sometime before we receive our cameras.

Rich



Oct 16, 2013 at 08:53 PM
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dasrocket wrote:
If its similar to the NEX sound I can see why it'd be labelled loud. While it may not be in terms of volume, the actual sharpness of the NEX shutter sound tends to be more pronounced than, say a 1Ds..

Definitely more noticeable in an echo-y room.



The nex-5 was loud. the 5n much much quieter (electronic mode). Nex-5 often startled my subjects. I'd imagine it's gonna be like that. But 8000 is gonna be fantastic for:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5543/9435905481_90c2bdb76b_b.jpg



Oct 16, 2013 at 08:58 PM
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snapsy wrote:
That might explain why the A7r is so loud. There is a huge difference in shutter noise on my 5N when using both curtains vs just the second curtain.


1.22Md, just means a regular 921kd LCD with the addition of white dots to improve brightness. So it's 4 dots rather than three dots and res has not improved.



Oct 16, 2013 at 09:24 PM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
100% agree. Many would argue otherwise though....


Yep, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.



Oct 16, 2013 at 09:25 PM
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p.13 #15 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Sony.net samples:

24-70mm
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/lenses/lineup/detail/sel2470z.html

28-70mm
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/lenses/lineup/detail/sel2870.html

35mm
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/lenses/lineup/detail/sel35f28z.html

55mm
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/lenses/lineup/detail/sel55f18z.html



Oct 16, 2013 at 09:25 PM
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p.13 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Gary Clennan wrote:
100% agree. Many would argue otherwise though....



Not Steve Huff, he's gone full "FF Look" and "magic"



Oct 16, 2013 at 09:27 PM
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p.13 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Dear Fred, perhaps we have too many a7/A7r thread going on at once.


Oct 16, 2013 at 09:57 PM
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p.13 #18 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


uhoh7 wrote:
omg the new Sony Leica

omg the new Canon d800e



Oct 16, 2013 at 10:24 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
So the more I read and see, the more I feel this urge to just go pre-order. Then I come back to reality. For instance, I have my Fuji X-E1 with 35/1.4 sitting in front of me. This is a stellar combo, with outstanding image quality. The A7 probably has slightly better high ISO. The 55/1.8 is probably a little sharper at wide apertures than the 35/1.4.

Is the A7 + 55/1.8 combo better than my X-E1 with 35/1.4? Yes. It probably is. I spent $1300 on my X-E1 + 35/1.4. The A7 with 55/1.8 is $2,700. Is it $1,400
...Show more


How much would you pay to have all of the shots back the it missed focus on?



Oct 16, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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douglasf13 wrote:
You're never going to have FF lenses compete in size with smaller formats. If you do, the apertures will be so slow that one has to wonder what the point is. Rather than looking up in size from the plethora of small format system cameras out there, the A7 is aimed at DSLR users looking down to it, because there will still be an overall size and weight advantage with the system, and you can use virtually any lens ever made on it.

Some want smaller, and some want smallest. The A7 is smaller. That's basically it.


Douglas,
the 35 mm / F 2,5 Color Skopar Pancake is a very small full frame lens. Center is very sharp wide open. Nice bookeh. But on a Nex5n and XE-1 I have to stop it down to f11 to get it sharp corner to corner.
http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigtlaender/voigtlaender_cms.nsf/id/pa_fdih8mjbkz.html



Oct 16, 2013 at 11:07 PM
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