p.105 #1 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Emacs wrote:
Got my A7.
(...)
Don't like it and will swap for modern styled body once it will be available.
I'm tempted to buy the A7 (not the A7r). However, there are a couple of design details which aren't to my liking so I just try to keep the money at the bank. May I ask why you bought a camera which you knew beforehand you wouldn't like?
p.105 #3 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Emacs wrote:
Got my A7.
And my opinion stays the same:
The body is too large
Really? The body is too large? It's funny because I would be concerned of the opposite, particularly when using adapted lenses (about the only option right now).
p.105 #4 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Emacs wrote:
Got my A7.
And my opinion stays the same:
Tiltable EVF is a must
Touchscreen is a must
The body is too large
The handling is not particularly stable "thanks" to fixed EVF: don't argue please, if you didn't try tiltable.
Control flow is too cumbersome and ergonomics definitely wasn't designer's aim.
Don't like it and will swap for modern styled body once it will be available.
Why are you buying stuff you don't like? I don't like everything about the a7, but at least I try to think of what I can do with it. Not what I can't. I mean, there is no competition and probably won't be in a year or so.
p.105 #5 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Makten wrote:
Why are you buying stuff you don't like? I don't like everything about the a7, but at least I try to think of what I can do with it. Not what I can't. I mean, there is no competition and probably won't be in a year or so.
It's a good point because in the end, it's just a tool. I highly suspect though that we will see competition by Photokina next year.
p.105 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Emacs wrote:
Got my A7.
And my opinion stays the same:
Tiltable EVF is a must
Touchscreen is a must
The body is too large
The handling is not particularly stable "thanks" to fixed EVF: don't argue please, if you didn't try tiltable.
Control flow is too cumbersome and ergonomics definitely wasn't designer's aim.
Don't like it and will swap for modern styled body once it will be available.
Don't expect one. The body is not too large for changing lenses especially for larger and heavier DSLR/SLR lenses.
p.105 #7 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
davewolfs wrote:
One odd comment from Steve Huff was the A7(R) felt slower than the RX1. I find that hard to believe as I consider the RX1 extremely slow (especially in low light). It's a great camera but you have to work within its limitations. Hard to believe that something would be slower than it.
I believe he means responsiveness of controls versus the RX1, not talking about AF.
p.105 #8 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I'm very curious about the actual focal length of the FE 35, as I'm sure others are. Perhaps some other folks who own the FE 35 and as well as some SLR 35's could compare the images for angle of view....Carsten?
Just did a quick and dirty test comparing a Nikon 35mm to Sony's and there is no dicernable difference!
p.105 #11 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
There is another myth that is proven to be incorrect - the a7R's startup time is 1 second, not 3 to 4 seconds as has been stated by reviewers. In their defence, their measurements were based on pre-production models.
Cheers
p.105 #13 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
sebboh wrote:
I believe he means responsiveness of controls versus the RX1, not talking about AF.
Uhm, what controls do we have other than AF and shutter release
Nov 30, 2013 at 11:44 AM
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p.105 #14 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Makten wrote:
Why are you buying stuff you don't like? I don't like everything about the a7, but at least I try to think of what I can do with it. Not what I can't. I mean, there is no competition and probably won't be in a year or so.
I felt I need a new toy
p.105 #15 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
After having the A7 for a week i am very much impressed by it. Beside Sony's shameless decision not to include a battery charger i can't find a serious flaw with the camera.
I think Sony drew a lot of elements from the classic mechanical SLR like the Minolta X700, Nikon FM2 and Pentax K1000 for this one. Side by side with my Pentax MX i am seeing this one as a digital offspring. More so than the Nikon DF attempt...
p.105 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
miklar wrote:
Just did a quick and dirty test comparing a Nikon 35mm to Sony's and there is no dicernable difference!
Interesting given three others now have found noticeable differences in focal length with other 35mm lenses. Seems the explanation is either the Nikon is longer than 35mm or the FE 35 focal length varies from lens to lens (I sort of doubt that). Did you do your quick and dirty test near infinity/ longer landscape distances or very close? Distance would be a big variable and others have tested at longer distances.
p.105 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Interesting given three others now have found noticeable differences in focal length with other 35mm lenses. Seems the explanation is either the Nikon is longer than 35mm or the FE 35 focal length varies from lens to lens (I sort of doubt that). Did you do your quick and dirty test near infinity/ longer landscape distances or very close? Distance would be a big variable and others have tested at longer distances.
It's also possible the tests were done with cameras settings for aspect ratio at 16.9 vs. 3.2 ...
The test was done at a distance of 8 feet, at an angle of 45 degrees.
I'll have to check the aspect ratio in the D3x to make sure it's the same as the a7R, will do that shortly, hopefully
Just checked and both cameras are set to the same aspect ratio.
cheers
p.105 #18 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
davewolfs wrote:
Now the E mount is not good enough for FF?!?!? Where does this stuff come from?
The mount is very close to the sensor, while being relatively small, which limits lens design due to mechanical interference. In other words, a wider mount would allow shorter native lens designs.
p.105 #20 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless
wayne seltzer wrote:
IQ wise, I don't see a A7 with non-dslr lens combo at 35mm FL which compares to my RX1.
Right now I'm trying to collect opinions on the CV 35 f/1.2 -- obviously RX1 wins for size and quietness (and AF if that's a priority) -- but CV 35 f/1.2 (from what I've been able to gather so far) seems to maintain respectable IQ, and f/1.2 would differentiate it from the RX1.
I don't like everything about the a7, but at least I try to think of what I can do with it. Not what I can't. I mean, there is no competition and probably won't be in a year or so.
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Won't be getting my a7r till monday. Guess that gives me time to search for some alt lenses
