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p.103 #1 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Does anybody know if it is possible to enter a magnified view pressing a button once, or do I have to press a programmed button several times?
I'm using MF lenses.

Edited on Nov 29, 2013 at 07:16 PM · View previous versions



Nov 29, 2013 at 07:15 PM
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p.103 #2 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


JonathanP wrote:
Press the DISP button whilst looking through the EVF to cycle through the views. Setup what it cycles through (independently for EVF and screen) on Menu->Gear wheel->2->DISP Button.


Brilliant, thanks a lot! Not only did I get rid of the horizon, I gained a small, corner histogram



Nov 29, 2013 at 07:15 PM
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p.103 #3 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


eightfold wrote:
Does anybody know if it is possible to enter a magnified view pressing a button once, or do I have to press a programmed button several times?


By default, pressing once brings up the focus box, which you can move around. Pressing again zooms in. Half-pressing the shutter release zooms back out. It works even better than what I wanted.



Nov 29, 2013 at 07:16 PM
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p.103 #4 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Does the ^^ half press ^^ disable the zoom or only while the half-press is, well, pressed?

Also: is it possible to assign the Focus Peaking function to a button such that it operates like an on-off toggle?



Nov 29, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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p.103 #5 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Has anyone received the battery grip for the A7/A7R ? I ordered it initially with the my camera order however I haven't seen any stock here in Toronto. I think it may improve my handholding ability given that my pinky sits below the camera plate and feels a bit awkward.

Also getting use to the shutter button placement, personally I would have preferred it on the grip.



Nov 29, 2013 at 07:29 PM
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p.103 #6 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


MIRANDA1 wrote:
Has anyone received the battery grip for the A7/A7R ? I ordered it initially with the my camera order however I haven't seen any stock here in Toronto. I think it may improve my handholding ability given that my pinky sits below the camera plate and feels a bit awkward.

Also getting use to the shutter button placement, personally I would have preferred it on the grip.


B&H Photo shows it as availability at the end of December.

Rich

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Nov 29, 2013 at 07:33 PM
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michaelwatkins wrote:
Does the ^^ half press ^^ disable the zoom or only while the half-press is, well, pressed?

Also: is it possible to assign the Focus Peaking function to a button such that it operates like an on-off toggle?


A half-press of the shutter release simply cancels either the Focus Magnification box or the zoomed in view.



Nov 29, 2013 at 07:40 PM
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p.103 #8 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


carstenw wrote:
By default, pressing once brings up the focus box, which you can move around. Pressing again zooms in. Half-pressing the shutter release zooms back out. It works even better than what I wanted.

Just got the camera, and I'd prefer getting in to "zoomed in mode" by just pressing a button. But not a deal breaker if it's not possible.



Nov 29, 2013 at 07:48 PM
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michaelwatkins wrote:
I might be hallucinating but believe somewhere I ran across someone talking about this and it had to do with low battery pack charge.

If it's still low, keep charging and try later?


There is an internal battery which if not fully charged won't allow setting time and date. Quite possibly this could also be another one which is disabled until the internal battery is charged.
the quickest way to charge that battery is to remove the battery pack and connect the charger. It's strange that the internal battery does not get charged from the battery pack, which may require connecting the charger to the cameray at some point.
Michael, I received the a7R yesterday, but have been busy with other things to truly assess it.
Much of what has been described as far as functionality is concerned I concur with.
The lenses presently available to me are Sony's Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 2.8/24-70 ZA and it turns out to be a pleasant surprise. The FE f/2.8 35mm is good to very good in the centre, but displays more vignetting than I was hoping for.
Still to be tested are a number of Nikkor lenses.
Although it is much to early for me to be sure, the issues of color smearing at 14mm f/2.8 (i.e. with a Nikkor 14-24mm and Novoflex adapter) seems not be an issue with the a7R.
The weight with adapter mounted lenses is indeed something one has to get used to, but becomes quite comfortable after a few minutes of use.
Again, much more shooting is necessary for me to make any final statements, just one thought, since it is intended to be used with adapter mounted lenses I feel more comfortable having a metal cage around the sensor and lens mount. Not to mention the camera does get warm with use, hence acts as a heatsink...
cheers



Nov 29, 2013 at 08:00 PM
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p.103 #10 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


carstenw wrote:
Try an A7 or A7R when you get a chance. The ability to focus the ZF.2 35/1.4 wide open without even zooming the EVF in really surprised me.


I can believe that. Same or similar EVF as the one for my beloved RX1.
I might try one, but am waiting for the next version with IBIS so I can use it with my ZA 135/1.8 after convertibg it back to original mount.
On the battery thing, I got used to Sony's small battery for RX1 by always carrying a spare which with both can get me through a pretty long day of shooting. But I turn it off frequently if I can. Also, Sony battery seems to run out early when shooting in near freezing temps.I had to one time keeo turning it off and then back on to get enough time to take one shot before battery "exhausted" again.
I also need to save up for another Alaska trip next year.
Such s beautiful wild place.



Nov 29, 2013 at 09:33 PM
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p.103 #11 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


35mm 2.8 by Tim Ahsley
http://www.getdpi.com/forum/sony/49498-fe-35mm-f2-8-za.html



Nov 29, 2013 at 10:03 PM
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p.103 #12 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Emacs wrote:
carstenw
I whined too but getting my A7 tomorrow


Yeah but you made alot of sense



Nov 29, 2013 at 10:13 PM
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serhan_ wrote:
35mm 2.8 by Tim Ahsley
http://www.getdpi.com/forum/sony/49498-fe-35mm-f2-8-za.html


Not a very encouraging review from someone who knows what they are talking about on many counts.

Apparently, this is really closer to a 40mm lens according to Tim.




Nov 29, 2013 at 10:13 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Not a very encouraging review from someone who knows what they are talking about on many counts.

Apparently, this is really closer to a 40mm lens according to Tim.



I'm not in agreement with this review, although he raises a couple of questions such as the actual focal length, needs to be looked into.
Often reviewers seem to get caught up with their own importance, as an example, I acquired the Zeiss Vario-Sonnar f2.8 24-70mm lens for use with the FS100 and subsequently read several terrible reviews on this lens. So I was quite concerned of having wasted money on a lens that would perform poorly on a FF body.
Well, on the a7R it's doing a great job So much for reviewers.
It's forums like this where we are able to read and see both the negatives and plusses, which is better than accepting the opinions of a few so called experts.
Cheers



Nov 29, 2013 at 10:40 PM
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miklar wrote:
I'm not in agreement with this review, although he raises a couple of questions such as the actual focal length, needs to be looked into.
Often reviewers seem to get caught up with their own importance, as an example, I acquired the Zeiss Vario-Sonnar f2.8 24-70mm lens for use with the FS100 and subsequently read several terrible reviews on this lens. So I was quite concerned of having wasted money on a lens that would perform poorly on a FF body.
Well, on the a7R it's doing a great job So much for reviewers.
It's forums like this where we
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+1 That sort of trash talk about the 35 so early, before we even have an LR profile is ridiculous. I've seen a ton of sweet sharp shots from it.

I will say I was surprised at the purple fringe wide open we saw here awhile back.

The jury is way out, and 800 vs 5100 for the FLE is some difference. The plain asph is nowhere near as good on the A7 as the FLE.

A7r seems to love the little cv 35/1.4 though



Nov 29, 2013 at 10:45 PM
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p.103 #16 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


miklar wrote:
I'm not in agreement with this review, although he raises a couple of questions such as the actual focal length, needs to be looked into.
Often reviewers seem to get caught up with their own importance, as an example, I acquired the Zeiss Vario-Sonnar f2.8 24-70mm lens for use with the FS100 and subsequently read several terrible reviews on this lens. So I was quite concerned of having wasted money on a lens that would perform poorly on a FF body.
Well, on the a7R it's doing a great job So much for reviewers.
It's forums like this where we
...Show more

Tim Ashley has proven to be much more precise and trustworthy and is not a typical hack reviewer. I'm not sure if he is a FM forum member but is a very knowledgeable user. Typically, he is super critical and his yardstick of comparison is going to be higher than that of the average user.



Nov 29, 2013 at 10:54 PM
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p.103 #17 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Tim Ashley has proven to be much more precise and trustworthy and is not a typical hack reviewer. I'm not sure if he is a FM forum member but is a very knowledgeable user. Typically, he is super critical and his yardstick of comparison is going to be higher than that of the average user.


His review does not sound much like many of the others that we have seen. Is it possible that there was an issue with his review sample?

Rich



Nov 29, 2013 at 10:58 PM
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p.103 #18 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


Hi
Those who are using Nikkors...do you have to buy seperate Novaflexes for G and AFD lenses (earlier lenses with the aperture ring)?
Thanks



Nov 29, 2013 at 11:00 PM
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p.103 #19 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


naturephoto1 wrote:
His review does not sound much like many of the others that we have seen. Is it possible that there was an issue with his review sample?

Rich


I suspect it's not due to sample variation though if you follow his link and download the full size test images, they are plenty sharp overall. It's not like they are obviously terrible. Some of the things he is pointing out are fairly subtle (and he is comparing to the RX1 and very expensive Leica glass). I'm not sure if others have actually looked at them. What I see in his test images and the important questions he raises are:

1) The borders seem to loose detail stopped down at F5.6 and F8 but are sharper at F2.8 and F4. The center is sharp in all. That seems rather odd. Is it possible that field curvature increases as one stops down?

2) Obvious color vignetting wide open and stopped down even which is not fully corrected in camera.

3) The actual focal length of the lens.

4) As the first prime FE lens released, is this what we can expect from the system (due to inherent limitations of cramming a FF sensor into the E-Mount)?

This last one is obviously just an inquiry but the first three are objective results form his lens. I think if one actually looks at his images, the first two are obvious - perhaps minor non-issues for some - but the focal length question is a pretty big deal for folks expecting a 35mm lens.



Nov 29, 2013 at 11:14 PM
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p.103 #20 · Official: Sony A7 and A7R Fullframe Mirrorless


carstenw wrote:
By default, pressing once brings up the focus box, which you can move around. Pressing again zooms in. Half-pressing the shutter release zooms back out. It works even better than what I wanted.


Which button are you referring to? I tried the AF/MF button but neither the focus box nor the magnified view shows up. Only focus peaking is working. MF Assist is set to on, Mag, Focus Mag Time set to 5 sec.



Nov 29, 2013 at 11:41 PM
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