I never understood the buzz on internet about Canon losing interest in newly developed mount within months of its launching. Developing an all new mount with lenses and sensor electronic around it requires quite a R&D efforts. It would be too much stupidity on Canon's part to drop all the efforts it just because internet critics shouting negatively about its first attempt. I think Canon is where Olympus was with E-P1.
While most of the folks and buz overlooked, EOS-M is quite an achievement in terms of its size and features. Yes its a raw product just like E-P1. I am very positive Canon will figure it out in an iteration or two and will not only capture but make mirror-less mainstream like no one else could make it.
Ulan wrote:
Good news, that means Canon is not dropping its M concept. We can expect a M
2. Question is when ?
Sagar wrote:
I never understood the buzz on internet about Canon losing interest in newly developed mount within months of its launching. Developing an all new mount with lenses and sensor electronic around it requires quite a R&D efforts. It would be too much stupidity on Canon's part to drop all the efforts it just because internet critics shouting negatively about its first attempt.
The reality is that the better the m line does, the more it may canniblise DLSR sales. Canon has its arm tied, hence the doubt by many about Canon's commitment to it.
SKumar25 wrote:
The reality is that the better the m line does, the more it may canniblise DLSR sales. Canon has its arm tied, hence the doubt by many about Canon's commitment to it.
Better to cannibalize its own sales than to let Sony and others do it...
GC5 wrote:
Better to cannibalize its own sales than to let Sony and others do it...
Most people I know--myself included--buy these wee mirrorless cameras to supplement their DSLR and/or replace P&S for traveling light days. I don't have an EOS M--need a VF--but I do have a GX1 and E-P3 and they coexist just fine with my 7D/5D2. Nothing to cannibalize. I don't think many serious photogs would be happy with only one camera or system. The more the merrier. Well, I sold off the last of my film cameras so maybe mirrorless had a small part in the demise of my Nikon FM3A and Oly Stylus Epic.
Some of us could care less about having f2.8 or less lenses. I'll take lighter and smaller any day over faster.
Does anyone know when this lens will be released. I can't find any info anywhere, and from what I can tell it hasn't been officially announced for the US market.
I am hoping for a small 60mm'ish macro lens, and then a telephoto zoom.
andyjaggy82 wrote:
Some of us could care less about having f2.8 or less lenses. I'll take lighter and smaller any day over faster.
Does anyone know when this lens will be released. I can't find any info anywhere, and from what I can tell it hasn't been officially announced for the US market.
I am hoping for a small 60mm'ish macro lens, and then a telephoto zoom.
RobDickinson wrote:
11-22 + M2 with the 70d sensor is sounding good....
That's what I'm thinking. If the 70D's sensor is used in the M's successor then I think it's going to be a hot seller.
If Canon is serious about the mirrorless segment, they should also release a bunch of lenses. How about a superzoom and then a telephoto (say something similar to Panasonic's 100-300mm lens)?
Problem with a superzoom or a telephoto is that they generally arnt much smaller than the SLR equivalent.
You can make the shorter lenses smaller, not so much the longer ones. an 18-135STM with the EF adapter I found made a very nice combo. I didnt expect to like the 18-135 (hated the old one) but the STM version made a nice do everything for the M.
RobDickinson wrote:
Problem with a superzoom or a telephoto is that they generally arnt much smaller than the SLR equivalent.
You can make the shorter lenses smaller, not so much the longer ones. an 18-135STM with the EF adapter I found made a very nice combo. I didnt expect to like the 18-135 (hated the old one) but the STM version made a nice do everything for the M.
Sony was able to make a decent 18-200mm lens for their NEX system. It's not very small, but Sony showed that it can be made.
lsquare wrote:
Sony was able to make a decent 18-200mm lens for their NEX system. It's not very small, but Sony showed that it can be made.
thats the thing , of course 'it can be made' . heck if small is not a requirement i bet Canon could make a steller 18-200 just like they make the best superzoom for the EF mount in the 28-300L
I just had a look at that Nex 18-200 on photozone , and really cant see the point in sticking that on a small body like the nex , it just looks unbalanced to carry around . but then ive seen many 'dads out with family' walking around with a rebel class body and a superzoom from Sigma/Tamron (ie 18-270) as well and that does not look comfortable to carry around either .
really for me if these mirrorless bodies are to have any real effect on keeping the overal size nice and small then the lenses need to to be clever like the panasonic that collapses really small when not in use .
Looking at the Sony above, it seems that Sony just popped their A-mount 18-200 and E-mount adapter into a new barrel and called it 'good'. It certainly doesn't look like it was actually designed with the E-mount in mind.
If Canon were to build an EF-M 18-200 with the care that they put into the new EF-S 18-135 STM, I'd be willing to bet that such a lens would be optically decent while being very small and very light.
Of course, I'd prefer to see a 'dual-pixel CMOS' EOS-M before anything else, and that may be what Canon is waiting for; it's hard to see them pushing complicated and expensive lenses into production for a system that the community has effectively shunned.
I don't understand why canon is not releasing this lens in the US. Isn't this a very unusual strategy for them? I just got the EOS-M and with the 22mm, the 18-55 and the 11-22, you have a pretty darn good travel vacation setup for landscape pictures. If they added a 50mm f2, that would be one awesome setup if you don't need to go over 90mm FF.
Schlotkins wrote:
I don't understand why canon is not releasing this lens in the US. Isn't this a very unusual strategy for them? I just got the EOS-M and with the 22mm, the 18-55 and the 11-22, you have a pretty darn good travel vacation setup for landscape pictures. If they added a 50mm f2, that would be one awesome setup if you don't need to go over 90mm FF.
Chris
I'd like to see Canon match or better the Sony SEL50 1.8 OSS and maybe the SEL 55-210 OSS (pretty small for a tele).
Steve
Schlotkins wrote:
I don't understand why canon is not releasing this lens in the US. Isn't this a very unusual strategy for them? I just got the EOS-M and with the 22mm, the 18-55 and the 11-22, you have a pretty darn good travel vacation setup for landscape pictures. If they added a 50mm f2, that would be one awesome setup if you don't need to go over 90mm FF.
Chris
I've heard that rumor, but I would be extremely surprised if Canon didn't release it here, that would make absolutely no sense from a business perspective. I think it's possible we may just be getting it a bit later than Asia/Europe.
I would really like a longish macro prime as well, a 60mm or 70mm macro lens.
