p.1 #1 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
I shoot lacrosse games at night and several of the venues have less than perfect lighting. I like to shoot in aperture priority during the day, but at night I struggle with shutter speed in that same setting. I assumed that I could simply set the presets for max ISO and min shutter speed and they would adjust as the night drew darker, but it did not. My Nikon D7100 has an auto ISO setting in which I can set a min exposure, but the camera doesn’t seem to want to follow that. Is it because the ISO is on Auto and is increasing manually? Snything to do with shooting in AF-C? I had it set at a min exposure of 1/1600 with a max ISO of 2000, f2.8 at 200mm and AF-C settings. All of my pics came out with exposures of 1/250 or 1/500. Lots of blurry useless images. I’m shooting with a Nikkor 200mm f/2.8 lens. Maybe switch to manual or shutter priority at night?
p.1 #3 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
Perhaps, but then why bother having a min exposure setting? The exposure setting is selected along with the max ISO setting at the same time. If auto ISO is gonna adjust the exposure as it incrteases, the min exposure setting is pointless.
p.1 #4 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
The kind of settings you want to shoot with are impossible, if I am not wrong. A very well lit area for indoor sports (Basket Ball lit for National TV where I live in Belgium for instance) will typically need at least ISO 6400 if you want to shoot @1/500 with a 2.8 lens. I don't think I have ever shot at less than ISO3200 for night/indoor sports and I often use faster lenses (85mm 1.8 fully open) for instance.
Faster than 1/500 @2.8 and ISO 2000 does not seem possible to me.
p.1 #5 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
pwoody wrote:
Perhaps, but then why bother having a min exposure setting? The exposure setting is selected along with the max ISO setting at the same time. If auto ISO is gonna adjust the exposure as it incrteases, the min exposure setting is pointless.
The camera will try to find a possible combination. 1/1600 is just not possible with the settings you chose. That's the reason the min setting is not applicable.
p.1 #6 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
...so much to learn, so little time Simple laws of physics, to get that SS in that light...
you're looking well beyond the capability of the D7100 (any DX body) ~ ISO25600
I'm afraid the issue might be unreasonable expectations. Looks like you'd need
the 200 f2 and ISO12800 if you insist on 1/1600th SS Just sayin'
p.1 #7 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
I think Manual Mode is what you want.
Set your ISO to the absolute MAX that you feel comfortable using, or the camera can handle and then set your SS from there. If you can't get the ISO high enough then you are going to have to deal with motion blur......
I have in the past used a D7000 at ISO 3200 and the images looked fine. If you nail the exposure ISO 3200 is usable. I am not sure what the max acceptable ISO is for the D7100.
p.1 #8 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
Thanks. I never contemplated that a given combination wasn't possible and that the camera would simply decide on its own. This is a wake up call. Thanks for your help guys. I'll try manual settings for the next game I shoot.
p.1 #9 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
Manual settings are a good way to determine what the actual exposure parameters need to be. If you want to have it partially automated, though, you really need to determine what your minimum acceptable shutter speed is, set that, and then set the auto-ISO function to be able to use up to 6400 or 12800.
My view of this is usually that, if I'm shooting sports or fast moving animals or anything where there's a shutter speed floor that you can't go past without ruining images, I don't care what the ISO is. I'll take a grainy image over a blurry image any day.
You can't tell the camera, "don't go lower than this shutter speed, and don't go higher than this ISO, but still expose properly" if you don't have enough light to do so. So pick your critical element (in the case of sports, that's usually shutter speed) and work out the rest of your parameters from there.
p.1 #10 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
It takes a certain amount of light hitting the sensor to make a picture. Too much and photos are overexposed. Too little and they are underexposed. Your camera is slowing down the shutter to let in enough light for a proper exposure.
Trenchmonkey is right. The laws of physics are not easily broken.
p.1 #12 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
D7100 is not a sports camera, that might be "issue" number one.
For similar conditions only D3s or D4 are eligible from Nikon camp (and as far as noise goes, pretty much thats only thing you can use and get reasonable photos).
p.1 #13 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
D7100 is not a sports camera, that might be "issue" number one. For similar conditions only D3s or D4 are eligible from Nikon camp (and as far as noise goes, pretty much thats only thing you can use and get reasonable photos).
I beg to differ....
Shot with a Nikon D7000 the predecessor to the D7100
p.1 #14 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
Mescalamba wrote:
D7100 is not a sports camera, that might be "issue" number one.
For similar conditions only D3s or D4 are eligible from Nikon camp (and as far as noise goes, pretty much thats only thing you can use and get reasonable photos).
Any camera can be a "sports camera" given the proper conditions. The D3S and D4 are better tools for indoor events because of their outstanding low light performance.
p.1 #15 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
Trevorma wrote:
I beg to differ....
Shot with a Nikon D7000 the predecessor to the D7100
Generally, hockey rinks have good light, which is aided by the reflective surface of the ice. You setting are not going to work is most gyms or night time field events. The proper exposure settings and FL X shutter are the keys to getting the shot, not the camera--unless the camera cannot deliver. The D7000 has its limitations, as do all cameras.
p.1 #16 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
If you don't want motion blur you will have to explore the upper reaches of iso. Nobody gives a crap about noise if the can see their faces in the pics scoring a goal. Black and white os a good option when dealing with noisy clour shifted photos.
p.1 #17 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
You setting are not going to work is most gyms or night time field events. The proper exposure settings and FL X shutter are the keys to getting the shot, not the camera--unless the camera cannot deliver.
I agree 100% I was simply pointing out that the D3s and D4 are not the ONLY "sports" cameras out there from Nikon......
p.1 #18 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
Mescalamba wrote:
D7100 is not a sports camera, that might be "issue" number one.
For similar conditions only D3s or D4 are eligible from Nikon camp (and as far as noise goes, pretty much thats only thing you can use and get reasonable photos).
Sorry, but if you all will permit me to rant for a moment...
This kind of response drives me absolutely nuts. The OP is clearly having a "new user" problem, that is very definable and very fixable. Then someone comes in and says the only cameras you can use - the solution to his problem, and the only cameras that will solve his problem - are a D3s or D4 . This is like a Honda Accord driver complaining he can't go fast in second gear, and telling that person that the solution to their problem is a Porsche 911, because that's the only kind of car that will "go fast."
What do you think would happen if you set a D4 to a minimum shutter of 1/1600th and a maximum ISO of 2000? You'll get the exact same results that the OP got... and have spent an extra $5k .
You can use any camera for any kind of photography. To suggest that only a $5000+ camera body is going to function is ridiculous and asinine.
p.1 #19 · Issues with Shooting Sports at Night with a D7100
What do you think would happen if you set a D4 to a minimum shutter of 1/1600th and a maximum ISO of 2000? You'll get the exact same results that the OP got... and have spent an extra $5k . You can use any camera for any kind of photography. To suggest that only a $5000+ camera body is going to function is ridiculous and asinine.
Well put...... that was the point I was trying to make, but I kind of beat around the bush..... you went right at it!!!
Simple laws of physics, to get that SS in that light...
Just sayin'
. This is like a Honda Accord driver complaining he can't go fast in second gear, and telling that person that the solution to their problem is a Porsche 911, because that's the only kind of car that will "go fast."