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James R
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p.1 #1 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


Looking for a camera to convert to IR. Seeking recommendations for the best camera to convert and company to perform the conversion?

Any help will be appreciated.

jr



May 15, 2013 at 12:21 AM
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p.1 #2 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


Nikon D300(s) is the best option in my opinion, strong body will last a lifetime and IQ is good for IR. Don't know any companies in the US, so can't help with that.


May 15, 2013 at 01:04 AM
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D70 work just fabulous, I highly recommend Life Pixel for conversion, they will help you with camera choice, there are some that work real good and others that do not like I think when I had mine converted the D70 was perfect but D70s was no good, I would contact life pixel for information


May 15, 2013 at 02:19 AM
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p.1 #4 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


Thanks for the help Playerofwar and Platscha.


May 15, 2013 at 09:31 AM
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p.1 #5 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


My most recent conversion was done on a d300 by Lifepixel with their supercolor filter. http://www.lifepixel.com/infrared-filters-choices

I've only had it a couple of months, so I can't speak too much about it. I don't shoot much IR in the winter. But, the camera and filter work well. The only issue is that you can't do a manual WB. Nikons only go down to 2500, which is where I set the Kelvin. The actual WB of this filter is around 1800, according to the eyedropper WB tool in Capture One. That's not a big deal. If you want to shoot false color, simply shoot RAW and then use NX2 or Capture One or similar converter to do the WB during the RAW conversion.

Previously, I had a conversion done to a Sony digicam by MaxMax. http://www.maxmax.com/
I was very happy with the conversion that they did. The camera worked for years as an IR camera and may still do so. Dunno, it's been a while (2005) since I've last used it.

As for the "best" camera to convert, I dunno. Lifepixel claims that the latest Nikons are the best to convert, for Nikon users. I'd suggest browsing some of Lifepixel's articles about that. They have a lot of good info.

You'll also want to make sure that you use lenses that don't produce IR hotspots. There are several Nikon mount lenses that will supposedly work well with IR.

good luck.
Kerry



May 15, 2013 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #6 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


Thanks Kerry,

BTW, are G lenses OK or are the "IR hotspots" specific to FLs?



May 15, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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Bjørn Rørslett often mention about IR/UV photography in this lens review, you can see which lenses have IR hotspots and which are good for IR there

I would only use cameras with Live-view for IR (to avoid focus issue).. and personally I 'd choose a mirrorless.



May 15, 2013 at 09:03 PM
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I suggest a D200 matched to a 18-70mm. Because of hotspots and focus issues. You can also just use ACR and Photoshop to for processing. D90 and D300 and newer bodies, it's best you use Capture for white balance and such. I suggest you call Lifepixel and talk to them about this before you do anything.


May 15, 2013 at 09:41 PM
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p.1 #9 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


Thanks guys, I'm going to contact Lifepixel and get this ball rolling.


May 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM
Kerry Pierce
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James R wrote:
Thanks Kerry,

BTW, are G lenses OK or are the "IR hotspots" specific to FLs?


I don't understand all that I know about IR hotspots in lenses. What I know is that some will produce them and others will not. It doesn't seem to matter whether it's new or old, G or not. Last year, when I started looking to do this conversion, I found 3 or 4 places that give listings of lenses with good/bad IR performance. Here is the thread that I started then. https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1151459/0?keyword=hotspot#10987563

Here's that first post, verbatim, in case the link doesn't work.

In an earlier discussion of IR, the problem of lenses having "hotspots" with IR came up and several small listings were discussed. Today, I found what seems to be the mother of all lists of lens hotspot performance, at this link.

http://www.kolarivision.com/lenshotspot.html

Here are some links to other, smaller lists.

http://dpanswers.com/content/irphoto_lenses.php
http://www.jim-kramer.com/IR-Lenses.htm
http://photonius.wikispaces.com/hotspot+lenses
http://irphotocom.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gear&action=print&thread=66

This link has the list down toward the bottom of the page and it has some cool photos and other info as well.
http://infraredphotographyasia.com/blog

One problem with these lists is that lenses will apparently perform differently on a converted camera than they do when a filter is attached to the front of the lens. There are also reports of lenses differing at different f/stops and zoom positions. It isn't always clear how the lenses were tested.

Hope someone finds the info useful.
Kerry



May 17, 2013 at 04:26 PM
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I'm partial to full-frame bodies for IR conversions because IR-converted sensors lose a significant amount of light gathering ability, so having a full-frame sensor helps keep shutter speeds within reason. I have a Life Pixel-converted Canon 5D that I love. I use a Samyang 14mm with mine, which eliminates any focusing issues since the DOF is huge and I just keep the lens dialed to hyperfocal or infinity. Here's a few samples:

http://horshack.smugmug.com/Other/Tahoe-Infrared/i-SG8hD4r/0/XL/tahoe_573-XL.jpg
http://horshack.smugmug.com/Other/Tahoe-Infrared/i-BMc8wWG/1/XL/tahoe_571-XL.jpg



May 17, 2013 at 06:19 PM
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p.1 #12 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


well if you ask for the best then D800E


May 18, 2013 at 02:27 PM
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If you rarely use IR, it's maybe cheaper to just rent a IR-converted camera for a few days.


May 18, 2013 at 03:26 PM
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Yes 5D2 Canon - get an adapter and use Nikon lenses...or just get the 24-105 F4 and you are fine...

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=637107

many IRs in that portfolio starting with the D70; D200,,,and now the 5D2. As much as I love Nikon, I think the Canon 5D2 and Canon lenses (no hot spots!) is (are) the best for IR.

I don't like Lifepixel..they have made several "mistakes when converting my camera...the folks in NJ do a better job of it...

I have a full spectrum D200 I can sell you for a very good price if you are interested...

Robert DeCandido PhD
NYC



May 18, 2013 at 04:48 PM
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p.1 #15 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


All lenses have to be looked at on an individual basis. NO blanket statement about one company's lenses being better oir worse will make it. Even different verwsions of the same lens can have differing IR capabilities. Nikon's 18-70 works well for me.


May 19, 2013 at 01:28 AM
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Hi Robert, could you tell me which kind of IR filter do you use? Thanks



May 19, 2013 at 02:58 AM
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p.1 #17 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


Most of us start with a Hoya RM72 IR filter. It's a 720 nanometer filter, and a great starting point. www.2filter.com usually has very good prices on filters.


May 19, 2013 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #18 · Best Camera for IR Conversion Q


D70S converted to IR.







May 19, 2013 at 03:02 PM
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If you have the choice, get a camera converted to IR use...so much more convenient to use than one where you use filters on the front of the lens...A converted camera will allow you to handhold images easily (well at good shutter speeds - above 1/60th of a second); and you will be able to use the histogram as well.

Again, as much as I liked Nikon for IR photography - Canon (surprisingly), specifically the 5D2, has been the best camera I have used for IR photography. You can use Nikon lenses (AIS lenses are best for this; well some AIS lenses) on a Canon body...so if you are invested in Nikon, you can just get a Canon body...but for me the 24-105 F4 Canon lens is a great IR lens...no hot spots for me at any Fstop or mm.



May 19, 2013 at 07:40 PM
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I've been tinkering with converting nikons for almost 8 years now. I also converted a couple olympus pen bodies, and a couple sony NEX's. Mirrorless or live view bodies are IMO, the better choices due to focus. My recent conversion was a nikon D5000, love the results:


Mission Espada by bellyface, on Flickr


cibolo creek by bellyface, on Flickr


Welcome Friends by bellyface, on Flickr


1475 by bellyface, on Flickr



I created a custom camera raw profile where the WB starts out at the negative end of the kelvin scale, so ACR gives me a more accurate WB setting in ACR.



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