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p.2 #1 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


My hunch is that adobe will "adjust" it's new model in the months and years to come once people realize they're essentially only renting the software and as soon as they stop paying they can no longer use it to access all those files on their computers.

Maybe adobe can "unlock" the software after a certain subscription period so a user can keep using it without updates yet without further monthly payments. Maybe adobe will offer "lite" versions on a non-subscription basis. I dunno, but I cannot see this model surviving as it is without adobe losing out to competitors in the long run.

For corporate clients the current subscription model is a no-brainer. For everyone else not so much.



May 07, 2013 at 12:44 PM
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p.2 #2 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


pipspeak wrote:
For corporate clients the current subscription model is a no-brainer. For everyone else not so much.


Not necessarily, I spent 25 years in the IT department of non IT companies(oil patch) I worked for and IT departments and software was always looked at as an expense not a revenue generator. It was not uncommon for a company I worked for to skip a version or 2 of upgrading application software and operating systems.

They may switch over to this but they will still do the due diligence to cost justify taking out a subscription and exactly how many they need. The last company I worked for had regular battles with Microsoft on licensing Office and Windows, and Adobe was only purchased when it's use could be justified.



May 07, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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p.2 #3 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


Re: Adobe PS and the Cloud: the issue regarding Adobe's choice to change purchasing PS is this: First, I have no use for the cloud. Second and most important is: I live in a community. I want to have some small $$ amount of my transactionso remain in the community I live in. It is for this reason that I have not upgraded to PS6. Previously, I could walk into my local camera/computer store and be greeted by a neighbour and purchase my update. That's gone. I don't want to [and haven't] buy it online . As large multi-nationals like Adobe, suck more money out of smaller communities, the standard of living will drop and all will suffer.



May 07, 2013 at 01:19 PM
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p.2 #4 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


hugowolf wrote:
With new camera models it is back too Lr creating TIFFs to open in PS CS6, unless they decide to CC Lr too, then it is back to Canon DPP or Nikon NX for conversion.


So as of now they still plan to release standalone versions of LR? I wasn't clear whether this decision to put Photoshop only in Creative Cloud affected Photoshop Lightroom.



May 07, 2013 at 01:24 PM
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p.2 #5 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


Capture One here I come.


May 07, 2013 at 01:24 PM
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p.2 #6 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


Youu mean I cxan't just buy an upgrade copy of CS6?


May 07, 2013 at 01:29 PM
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runamuck wrote:
Youu mean I cxan't just buy an upgrade copy of CS6?


CS Line *OFFICIALLY* died yesterday. RIP.



May 07, 2013 at 01:30 PM
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p.2 #8 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


As far as I'm concerned, adobe can ESAD.


May 07, 2013 at 01:37 PM
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Capture one is 299? seems like lightroom would be the way to go


May 07, 2013 at 02:38 PM
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p.2 #10 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


but how long until they throw lightroom onto cloud only?


May 07, 2013 at 02:47 PM
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JimClark wrote:
Capture one is 299? seems like lightroom would be the way to go


Capture One Express is much cheaper, and has the vast majority of the same tools.




May 07, 2013 at 02:56 PM
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Scott Snyder wrote:
but how long until they throw lightroom onto cloud only?


I believe LR will be competitively priced as the carrot for their trap.



May 07, 2013 at 02:56 PM
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JimClark wrote:
Capture one is 299? seems like lightroom would be the way to go


$129 for students so find someone



May 07, 2013 at 03:23 PM
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burningheart wrote:
Not necessarily, I spent 25 years in the IT department of non IT companies(oil patch) I worked for and IT departments and software was always looked at as an expense not a revenue generator. It was not uncommon for a company I worked for to skip a version or 2 of upgrading application software and operating systems.

They may switch over to this but they will still do the due diligence to cost justify taking out a subscription and exactly how many they need. The last company I worked for had regular battles with Microsoft on licensing Office and Windows, and
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True, although in the case of creative companies I suspect the justification for an Adobe "rental" would be easier.

Having said that, however, AFAIK a lot of creative companies do not, in fact, jump on latest releases of Adobe software if they do not need any of the new features, which means we might see a lot of users, both corporate and individual, using CS6 for many years, which would give Adobe's competitors a good chance to grab some market share (assuming they don't all go down the same path as Adobe). Already I suspect this announcement will have given Adobe two main video-editing competitors (Avid and FC) a nice boost. There are also good sound editing alternatives out there. Competitors to Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign, however, are far less attractive so let's hope some companies get their act together and open up those markets a bit.




May 07, 2013 at 06:05 PM
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p.2 #15 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


I know you can get a student version but I prefer to get my software legally. ( I am not a student)


May 07, 2013 at 08:50 PM
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p.2 #16 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


I plan to keep my 5D2 / PS5 / LR4 / Window 7 just as they are. So hopefully that combo will serve me for a very long time.

Edited on Jun 24, 2013 at 08:14 AM · View previous versions



May 08, 2013 at 05:20 PM
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p.2 #17 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


Cphoto1954 wrote:
I plan to keep my 5D2 / PS5 / LR4 / Window 7 just as they are. So hopefully that combo will serve me for a very long time.


Just hope your computer doesn't crap out and your new purchase has an operating system that still supports those!
To me, that's the bigger issue. I plan on doing the same and may need to also buy a backup iMac to keep in the wings until the one I have craps out.



May 08, 2013 at 05:49 PM
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p.2 #18 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


CarlG wrote:
Just hope your computer doesn't crap out and your new purchase has an operating system that still supports those!
To me, that's the bigger issue. I plan on doing the same and may need to also buy a backup iMac to keep in the wings until the one I have craps out.


I can still buy a new PC and install windows XP which had been past its end of life for a while. Windows 7/8 will be supported for quite a few years to come. I see two possibilities here.. Either adobe backs off their plan as their revenue stream dries up or another company moves in to fill the void. As in Cphoto1954's case, he will be good for a few years minimum. A lot of time for alternatives to develop.



May 08, 2013 at 10:15 PM
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p.2 #19 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


I'm pretty much past any majopr buying. I've retired, and am finding other ways to fill my time besides photography. I will stick with what I have, and not buy any more photo editing programs.


May 08, 2013 at 10:25 PM
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p.2 #20 · Wow, gotta be kidding! GOODBYE Adobe!!!


Steve Jobs once said even Jesus Christ couldn't sell a subscription model. He was talking about music downloads but...


May 09, 2013 at 12:25 PM
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