If "outperform" means little more than "I like it's size more and it is good enough for me", we can start 153 threads of X outperform Y based on that chart alone.
Understood ... I'm just in the market for a small camera for another person who only knows how to zoom and push the button. The chart will be something I can share with them to get a feel for their size temperament in one easy place to compare/illustrate. When you live in rural areas ... pictures can mean a lot, as it isn't possible to readily get your hands on this many different offerings.
Of course, the 18-55 is the largest of the current Fuji lenses (the 55-200 will be once it's out), and is a full stop faster than all the other 'kit' zooms, so it's not really a 1:1 comparison. The 35/1.4 and 18/2 especially are much smaller.
Sure, but the point is, replace D800 in the title with X-E1 and replace X-E1 with any of these camera, one can make another "X outperform Y" thread about nothing, much like how this thread has been going.
RustyBug wrote:
What about the OM-D with grip/battery?
Depends on the sport. I shot golf at the Memorial Tournament last year with the OM-D+grip and my big honkin Canon FD 50-300/4.5, and it was brilliant. The 9fps bursts were great, the in-body IS made framing and focusing much easier, and the output was excellent.
Here's a writeup I did last year after shooting the Memorial on how the E-M5 did in this case, with some samples. If you look at the "Related Posts" section at the bottom of the article, you'll find the main image threads as well, which have a lot more samples from that event. http://admiringlight.com/blog/olympus-e-m5-sports-shooting-field-report/
For tracking things running AT you? No... The Continuous AF isn't quite good enough. You can get some hits on a burst in that situation, but it's far less than with a PDAF system. I'd stick to DSLRs for action sports. Use the right tool for the job.
So, it sounds like if you're good with "pre-focusing" & 9 fps it is viable. I shoot some sports with MF glass on SLR/c, so technique and strategy are what makes it viable with "predictable" action. Trap focus can be nice too. Will the E-M5 allow for trap focus, or is that too much related to continuous AF?
I don't believe the OM-D can do that. (I also don't know if any CDAF system can do it). The OM-D can't do any sort of 'focus confirmation' in manual focus mode (by nature, it needs to go back and forth to determine area of greatest contrast. It's not really needed, since I think manual focus with an EVF is far easier than with an OVF, but it doesn't work that way. While you can set the OM-D to not trip until focus is achieved, in manual focus mode, it will trip as soon as you press the button. That setting will only work for AF.
The E-M5 is roughly the same size as the X-E1. It's slightly smaller in width, but slightly taller with the viewfinder hump. Interestingly enough, though, the X-E1 looks bigger since it's one big rectangle, but in actual dimensions, they're roughly the same, excepting the hump of the E-M5.
aleksanderpolo wrote:
Sure, but the point is, replace D800 in the title with X-E1 and replace X-E1 with any of these camera, one can make another "X outperform Y" thread about nothing, much like how this thread has been going.
In my experience, "X" always out-performs "Y", and so do "D" and "R". Also, cameras with the numbers "0", "1", and "5" are especially high performers. My trouble is that I can't figure out where "V" belongs.
Here's an illustration of my current problem. Unfortunately, I recently bought an RX100, which has an incredibly powerful name, and so I might have to junk all of the others.
You left off the vertical grip from the Fujis so I am calling you out for cheating at school;-) Gotta watch these small camera users, they are a crafty lot..full of tricks kept in small bags.
philip_pj wrote:
You left off the vertical grip from the Fujis so I am calling you out for cheating at school;-) Gotta watch these small camera users, they are a crafty lot..full of tricks kept in small bags.
So you'll be shooting professional sports with the Fuji now, is that correct ... or will this be pleasure shooting only ... or something else?
Obvious answer to this is I shoot for pleasure only now. I was lucky enough to have a side thing going where I covered the NHL, MLB, PGA, and NCAA for a wire service. It was a great experience and fun but the fun turns to work and it's a lot of hours, lot of work and a lot of use on your gear for not a lot of money.
In the last year or so my gear just sat in my bag becuase it became a pain in the ass to lug around a packback and a bunch of lenses. Shooting the Fuji has made photography fun again. I go out the door with a small camera, one lens and shoot what I can with it and get great results from it. I'm shooting more as a result. Simplified my shooting and I don't spend hours in front of the computer processing my images.
I was close to trying out the fuji systems instead of big zooms and big bodies, but for a much cheaper experimentation, I bought a pancake on the whim.... wow, been a few months now, and really enjoy the smaller prime. I've used smaller primes in the past, but not this small, and yes, the much smaller profile made a difference, even over small primes such as the 50/1.8 or 35/2 (canon).
It's my day to day lens, but if there's an big event, then I'll bring out the bigger zoom.
not sure if nikon makes a pancake, but it's definitely changed the way I view these mirrorless systems. A complete joy to lug around, and still have snappy AF. Nearly the best of both worlds. It's so small, it's like going lens-less.
