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p.1 #1 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


Hii,

I read quite some praises for Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS lenses. But then, I also found the score for this lens is relatively low in the famous http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_short.html page. Th lens however is still relatively expensive in used market. Is it worth it?

Eric



Mar 04, 2013 at 10:44 PM
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p.1 #2 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


I find it to be pretty amazing, personally.

Bought one used, sold it, immediately regretted it, and bought it back from the guy I sold it to.




Mar 04, 2013 at 11:06 PM
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p.1 #3 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


I briefly owned the 135/2DC and my 135/2 AIS. I found the AIS to be slightly better wide open and the manual focusing far less finicky and trustworthy than the D. The D was not worth the extra ~$600.

I find Bjorn's analysis accurate, though his rating a bit low. It does very well when accurately focused. It has a lot of CA that can be fixed in post most times.

I just shot a roll of Provia with it yesterday with my FE2, but I don't hesitate to use it with my D800 if I want to lug it around.

Looking forward to the Nikon 135/1.8 (if Nikon ever gets it out) and the Zeiss 135/2 looks fantastic, but not so much the price.

- John



Mar 04, 2013 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #4 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


The lens is big and heavy. It is also relatively expensive when compared with other manual focus lenses. Here's a copy of the lens I bought for $625.

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ahUZAiuD80o/TgZJ1b9ZdRI/AAAAAAAAJDw/ZlmL1XcdbRc/s1024/135%25202%2520AIS.01.jpg

I find it a wonderful lens that produces delicious bokeh. I'm not inclined to do detailed analysis of the performance of a lens. I'm inclined to rely on what i see and I've always been happy with what this lens does.

http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Icp8SCnS3ik/T1KeLUIC_uI/AAAAAAAALn4/FrVoIM7Tz70/s1000/135.2.AbundantTulips.jpg

This is wide open.

At this focal length there are a few MF Nikkors available. They are all good but the 135 f/2 really is in a league of its own.




Mar 05, 2013 at 04:44 AM
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p.1 #5 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


Can't really compete with Curtis and his flower shots, but this lens is very useful when used at f/2:

















Mar 05, 2013 at 11:04 AM
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p.1 #6 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


Archhh miss mine. Beautiful lens.


Mar 05, 2013 at 03:47 PM
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p.1 #7 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


I have tried the Nikkor 135mm f/2 back in 2002 but didn't like the images shot at infinity. On film back then, I can see traces of colour fringing on the edges of highlights on the f/2 lens. This was when I already had the old Nikkor 135mm f/2.8 Ais. My current mint 135mm f/2.8 Ais is just one piece of awesome glass. It renders great & sharp shots from infinity to macro. Bokeh on the f/2 is a tiny bit better but really, in prints, it's hard to see this difference. I'd rather stick to a lighter, all rounder lens. Cheers.

Some samples of the mint 135mm f/2.8 Ais on a D3X. These shots have no PP on them:



Nikon D3X, Nikkor 135mm f/2.8 Ais (mint)

Hyper Dog's Behind by ReyGay, on Flickr





Nikon D3X, Nikkor 135mm f/2.8 Ais (mint)

Letting the Hyper Dog Pass By by ReyGay, on Flickr




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Mar 05, 2013 at 05:24 PM
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p.1 #8 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


deadwolfbones, John, and Curtis,

Thanks very much for sharing your experiences with this lens and photos. The images are amazing. Also thanks Curtis for giving me some hint about the price.


ReyGay, Thanks very much for your recommendation for the f2.8 version.

Eric



Mar 05, 2013 at 07:50 PM
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p.1 #9 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


I personally like the 135f/3.5 version better than the 135f/2.8

John



Mar 05, 2013 at 10:31 PM
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p.1 #10 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


CGrindahl wrote:

The lens is big and heavy. It is also relatively expensive when compared with other manual focus lenses. Here's a copy of the lens I bought for $625.

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ahUZAiuD80o/TgZJ1b9ZdRI/AAAAAAAAJDw/ZlmL1XcdbRc/s1024/135%25202%2520AIS.01.jpg

I find it a wonderful lens that produces delicious bokeh. I'm not inclined to do detailed analysis of the performance of a lens. I'm inclined to rely on what i see and I've always been happy with what this lens does.

http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Icp8SCnS3ik/T1KeLUIC_uI/AAAAAAAALn4/FrVoIM7Tz70/s1000/135.2.AbundantTulips.jpg

This is wide open.

At this focal length there are a few MF Nikkors available. They are all good but the 135 f/2 really is in a league of its own.



Your lens looks new. Really beautiful flowers.

Eric



Mar 05, 2013 at 11:32 PM
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p.1 #11 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


jhinkey wrote:
I personally like the 135f/3.5 version better than the 135f/2.8

John


Thanks to let me know. I have a very good 135 f3.5 as well. Just thinking about adding a 135 f/2.

Eric



Mar 05, 2013 at 11:34 PM
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p.1 #12 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


I had one years ago on film, and have had my current 135/2 ais for several years.
It's a decent lens that barely satisfies my 12MP D3 for absolute detail at distance.
Think of it as a "Photojournalist's Lens" from the 1970's.
It was created in a time when extreme high iso---using extremely grainy, low-res film-- was 1600.
At that time, it was a miracle to have a 135 that opened to f/2.
Now, it's main attraction is that it is deliberately designed to get a bit soft at close range, which makes it outstanding for people pictures. Head shots and the like.
Mine seems as "sharp" at f/4 as my 135/3.5 is at f/8.
But there is no doubt in my mind that modern designed lenses, like the new Zeiss 135/2, would blow it away on small detail rendition with a 24 or 36 MP camera.
I have no plans to sell mine.
See this Nikon article about how it was conceived and designed:
http://imaging.nikon.com/history/nikkor/30/index.htm



Mar 05, 2013 at 11:55 PM
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p.1 #13 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


Keith,

Thanks very much for the lens design history and the article.

Eric



Mar 06, 2013 at 01:17 AM
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p.1 #14 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


May have to swap out my 135mm ƒ/2.8 for one of these.

I also have the 105mm ƒ/1.8 and the 180mm ƒ/2.8 which are also very nice.



Mar 06, 2013 at 01:39 AM
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p.1 #15 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


The Zeiss is available for pre-order and B&H for ONLY $2,122. I think I'll stick with my Nikkor...


Mar 06, 2013 at 01:44 AM
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p.1 #16 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


The 135/2 does very very well at distance even wide open. It just suffers from some lowered contrast and a bit of CA.

These are from the D800 and the 135/2 does quite well indeed . . .





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Mar 06, 2013 at 02:27 AM
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p.1 #17 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


Around the price Curtis is mentioning this lens at max f/2 aperture and 135mm fl is a steal.

An example of subject isolation at f2, I think close to minimum focus distance:

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b530/sa_maryland_fotofun/Cats/CatAtCounter_zps937811b2.jpg

Some places charge higher for this lens, so you may need to shop around a bit.

Samy



Mar 06, 2013 at 03:19 AM
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p.1 #18 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


Fairly expensive for a manual focus Nikkor but nothing compared to Leica-R (the Leica-R 135, which is an ANCIENT and far inferior design, is about the same price). It's also a lot harder to find than most manual focus Nikkors, though. It took me months to find one.

It was worth it, though. Very easy to focus (much easier than the 105/1.8 and 180/2.8 in my experience), great sharpness, contrast, and saturation, and good (not 100MP, but good) bokeh.

My first time shooting with it:

Mar 06, 2013 at 07:44 AM
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p.1 #19 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


Wow! Thanks very much for the beautiful images and info in this thread.

Eric



Mar 06, 2013 at 11:39 PM
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p.1 #20 · Nikon 135mm f2 AI/AIS quality ?


I only paid about $100 less than Curtis, but my lens is probably in $150-200 worse condition :/

That's nothing compared to the Leica 180/2 which is going for ~$1.5k more on eBay than FM and used camera stores, but still, be careful on eBay!



Mar 07, 2013 at 03:19 AM





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