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Archive 2013 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.

  
 
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p.12 #1 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


PetKal wrote:
People who are into marshal arts sometimes get their heads kicked real bad, with lasting consequences.


Assuming you mean martial arts, he has only three professional fights on record that I have found, and he lost two of those.



Feb 19, 2013 at 03:43 AM
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p.12 #2 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Ian.Dobinson wrote:
Well to cover both those points.

the OP has spoken to the seller and got evassive and very unhelpful replies (and non replies)

Actually after glancing at that thread, it seems far more likely it's just typical egomania. In other words, "I am the best, the embodiment of perfection, I can do no wrong. Every action I have ever taken is completely right and/or utterly justified". People who live in their own world can be hard to deal with.



Feb 19, 2013 at 05:05 AM
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p.12 #3 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


I notice jojomon11's lens has the "black dot" by the audible switch...as does the "mint copy" pics, but not the "beater" pics...


Feb 19, 2013 at 05:49 AM
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p.12 #4 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


I hope things work out for Dennis and still have faith in most on this board.

If Dennis does not get his money back, perhaps Fred can set up an online donation form that members can contribute to in order to reimburse Dennis?




Feb 19, 2013 at 07:37 AM
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p.12 #5 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Dennis, I am sorry to hear about your situation, I am certain you'll win the case. I'm just pissed that you got robbed like this, I am sure you are furious. good luck.

I actually PM'd him when he posted that thread but got an offer from someone else for 200 1.8... this isn't fair for anyone.

/r
Andy



Feb 19, 2013 at 07:57 AM
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p.12 #6 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Ian.Dobinson wrote:
Phil: do we know if the serial numbers match?

I also notice that the lens you sold him (in great condition) had a replacement RRS foot which can be seen in the 1 set of pics posted by the OP . But the 2nd set of the actual lens received by the OP has the standard foot.
Did you send the standard foot along with the RRS one ? But even then assuming the standard foot you had was in as good a condition as the rest of the lens (let's face it it would have been as it wasn't
...Show more

Yes it came with the orig foot as well.....












Feb 19, 2013 at 09:35 AM
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p.12 #7 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Ian.Dobinson wrote:
Phil: do we know if the serial numbers match?


A quick exchange of PM between Phil and Dennis might answer this question.




Feb 19, 2013 at 09:42 AM
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p.12 #8 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Phil and I are already talking

I just looked at the pic of the foot Phil posted and that lone scratch on the foot is on the foot in the picture I posted on the first page!



Feb 19, 2013 at 09:45 AM
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p.12 #9 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Emailed you Dennis


Feb 19, 2013 at 09:47 AM
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p.12 #10 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


I have assumed that Phil doesn't have the serial number of the lens he traded/sold to Gregory, and thus the dilemma.
That is why I have suggested to Dennis to check the fabrication codes, if those are available for Phil's lens, because the probability of Gregory owning two 200 f/1.8s which were made in the same month is very slim.



Feb 19, 2013 at 09:49 AM
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p.12 #11 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


this amongst other reasons, is why I never, ever, ever, send paypal gift for a large ticket item, regardless of how much feedback someone has. Of course it is specially not fair to screw paypal out of a large ticket item. I know sellers at times have been screwed by unscrupulous buyers by going through paypal, and b/c of that, some refuse to take it, but for me, its just too much of a risk to take on a large ticket item.


Feb 19, 2013 at 10:14 AM
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p.12 #12 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


If one compare the "beaten-up" picture of the original lens-foot on page 1 with the same picture from the original owner, both of them have the same scratch on the underside... which means, it is the same lens, gone from pristine condition to a beaten-up wreck in a year or so...

Looking at the link(s) Monito supplied earlier on, he even uploads tons of photos with his equipment piled up on the floor, in bags or in the seats of his car... it hurts just to look at those pics.. :-(

I think this case is pretty clear... first abuse and then fraud... :-(

Very sad to see people handle equipment like that... even sader of course lying about it... :-(

Best of luck to OP..!



Feb 19, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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p.12 #13 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Sounds like they are the same lens. Hard to believe!


Feb 19, 2013 at 10:25 AM
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p.12 #14 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


I think "ninja" used it as a sparring partner.


Feb 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM
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p.12 #15 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Phil and I just confirmed it's the same date code UH0911 and the scratch on the foot in his pic and the one I took the other day is still there. Unfortunately, that scratch has about 100 or so big brothers now

I'm definitely pissed that this happened but I'm confident PP and AMEX will handle this. And don't worry, I have zero plans of heading up to Canada to battle with Mr. Miaggi. I have better things to do. I think he's got bigger issues going on than just screwing me over.



Feb 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM
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p.12 #16 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Good man, Dennis, do not let all this poison your mood. You shall get your money back one way or another.

BTW, if you'd like to get a fine 300 f/2.8 IS MkI instead of 200 f/1.8, I am sure that a "Petkal" grade lens would help you forget this unfortunate episode.



Feb 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM
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p.12 #17 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


I'm rooting for you too Dennis! As a fellow Bostonian, I hate to see anyone here get screwed like that. On the flipside, it's great to see the FM community band together like this to support your cause. You even got Fred involved! Good luck in dealing with this sad turn of event.
Hey, at least the 3+ft of snow we got last week are melting! Got to see the silver lining somewhere!



Feb 19, 2013 at 11:23 AM
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p.12 #18 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


One thing of note. For someone that doesn't collect lenses but rather, shoots with them he sure takes a lot of pictures of that lens. It's downright fetish status.


Feb 19, 2013 at 11:52 AM
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p.12 #19 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


dennisgibson wrote
I think he's got bigger issues going on than just screwing me over.


Thats for sure, and karma-wise he is walking down the dark path. It actually made me sad to see that he has a kid, I hope he can contain his "issues".

Anyway, here's hoping that you get this settled as soon as possible. A lot of us is following this!



Feb 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM
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p.12 #20 · Bought a "mint" 200 1.8, he delivered a beater.


Please tell me that you didn't use the PayPal "gift" option for this !!!

If so, I wouldn't be surprised if AmExp took this into consideration when reviewing the dispute.

greg



Feb 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM
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