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p.1 #1 · Is this X100 slow?



I was reading Steve Huff’s solutions to the X100 ‘problems’.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/05/11/the-top-7-complaints-of-the-fuji-x100-and-how-i-get-around-them-by-steve-huff/

I was wondering if anyone could elaborate on these for me with in relation to ease and speed of use. I guess I still want to feel like I’m using an SLR, or a mechanical camera in some way. When you press something it does it, no lag or hanging around. My dSLR doesn’t feel mechanical, so that’s probably the wrong word, but when I press the shutter it has a nice press and release feel. With my compact camera, it’s more like a button you’d find on any old electrical device.

Startup time. Does the Sandisk Extreme Pro SD card + quick start mode solve this? I feel like I read ages ago that this destroys battery life, but I cannot find the source now. With my other cameras, I generally leave it on and it goes to sleep whilst in use, or if I’m going to take a break/need to put it away for some reason, I’ll actually turn it off. But then, if I turn it back on to get a photo it’s pretty instantaneous… for someone who likes to catch images quickly, having to wait 12 seconds is a huge turnoff as I’m sure you can imagine.

I’ve gone around in my head for different camera solutions in this area, and this one seems to be the most economical, but with perhaps a lower IQ level and speed of use. If it could work quickly (not talking about AF here) then I think I’d be happy.



Feb 11, 2013 at 08:29 AM
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p.1 #2 · Is this X100 slow?


One problem I have with my X100 is that it's slow to write to the SD card, which means the time to wait before preview is a bit long, and you can't rapidly take a lot of sequential images without saturating the buffer. OTOH, I normally don't use the X100 in situations where this is a problem.

Another thing that bugs me sometimes is that it takes a while to "wake up" after going to sleep, to save power. I find it's generally faster (and fast enough) to turn it off and then back on, rather than trying to coax it awake - sort of like a teenager.

The X100s may resolve some of these issues.

I use quick start mode with a variety of SD card types and sizes, and it's OK.

The X100 is not a DSLR, and it does not do many things as well as a DSLR, but it does some things better. In particular, the X100 is relatively small, silent, and very discrete. Its IQ is excellent, and the process of using the X100 as "a camera" is also excellent. I've used many well-regarded film and digital cameras, and the X100 is one of my favourites.



Feb 11, 2013 at 09:28 AM
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p.1 #3 · Is this X100 slow?


The X100 has a few too many compromises for my taste, but the X100s fixes the most egregious of these, and so I have my pre-order in. I'm quite excited.....wish I didn't have to wait until the end of March, though.


Feb 11, 2013 at 10:33 AM
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p.1 #4 · Is this X100 slow?


This article is nearly 2 years old, and written by someone who, historically, has not had very many good things to say about Fuji's cameras. The X100 is a completely different camera now, and the X100s is likely to be even better, particularly in the AF department.

I use the X100 every single day for street photography, and here is my take (good and bad) on the camera:

1. Startup time is fine, but could be faster. ALWAYS reformat the card after downloading to your computer (especially if you're downloading to Mac).

2. Shutter lag is minimal, with the most recent firmware updates. I've never missed a shot because of it, but I suppose it could be better.

3. Manual focusing is better than it was, but you wouldn't want to rely on it as your primary focus mechanism, unless you're zone focusing.

4. On that note, zone focusing works perfectly; just use the distance scale on the LCD. The DoF scale is about 1 stop too conservative, meaning that you're always getting a bit more DoF than indicated.

5. I've never noticed a problem with write speed. That is, I've never once been limited by it. I suppose if you were rifling off shots, you might run into buffer overload issues, but I'm not sure that's really what the X100 exists to do.

The X100 is the best digital camera I have ever used, without question. It's a joy to use, as long as you're not expecting it to function like a DSLR. Then again, I wouldn't like it nearly as much if it functioned like a DSLR.



Feb 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM
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p.1 #5 · Is this X100 slow?


I found the x100 extremely irritating, and sold it after few monts with no regrets; the good thing is that I have been able to save a lot of money on the RX1, once that I have realized that a 35mm fixed lens does not longer suit my 2013 needs

BTW, what was wrong in my X100?

-1 AF !!!! + AF in OVF at close distance (how many OOF!!!)
-2 all the quirks of the earlier FW;
-3 problems any time you put the card into a MAC, an iPad, etc, unless you remember to lock the SD before;
-4 poor RAW output in Adobe;
-5 poor battery life;
-6 fancy colors, yes sometimes exciting, but sometimes just unreal;

Many friends told me that firmware after firmware things went better, but not 100% solved



Feb 11, 2013 at 02:05 PM
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p.1 #6 · Is this X100 slow?


ultrapix wrote:
I found the x100 extremely irritating, and sold it after few monts with no regrets; the good thing is that I have been able to save a lot of money on the RX1, once that I have realized that a 35mm fixed lens does not longer suit my 2013 needs

BTW, what was wrong in my X100?

-1 AF !!!! + AF in OVF at close distance (how many OOF!!!)
-2 all the quirks of the earlier FW;
-3 problems any time you put the card into a MAC, an iPad, etc, unless you remember to lock the SD before;
-4 poor RAW output
...Show more

Maybe you should get a PC.




Feb 11, 2013 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #7 · Is this X100 slow?


jcolwell wrote:
Maybe you should get a PC.




To be fair, my favorite photoshop platform is 4 years old Packard Bell i7 powered, 12 gb RAM, Windows 7; but please, don't spread the news, I'm still trying to convince people that I am a serious photographer



Feb 11, 2013 at 04:27 PM
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Feb 11, 2013 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #9 · Is this X100 slow?


ultrapix wrote:
I found the x100 extremely irritating, and sold it after few monts with no regrets; the good thing is that I have been able to save a lot of money on the RX1, once that I have realized that a 35mm fixed lens does not longer suit my 2013 needs

BTW, what was wrong in my X100?

-1 AF !!!! + AF in OVF at close distance (how many OOF!!!)
-2 all the quirks of the earlier FW;
-3 problems any time you put the card into a MAC, an iPad, etc, unless you remember to lock the SD before;
-4 poor RAW output
...Show more

1. The X100 has parallax-corrected frame lines and AF indicator, but you need to turn them on. OR...use the handy-dandy EVF for close-up shots.

2. All of which are resolved now.

3. This one is true. The other option is to simply format the card once you return it to the camera.

4. Perhaps you're confusing the X100 with the X-Pro1/X-E1? The X100 is absolutely flawless in LR/ACR

5. True. Get a second/third/fourth battery.

6. This can be easily adjusted either in camera or in a Raw processor of your choice.

The X100 is not a perfect camera, but it's also not a flawed camera. It's a terrifically useable camera that produces stellar results. But you have to be willing to learn how it operates.



Feb 14, 2013 at 10:55 AM
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p.1 #10 · Is this X100 slow?


edge100 wrote:
This article is nearly 2 years old, and written by someone who, historically, has not had very many good things to say about Fuji's cameras. The X100 is a completely different camera now, and the X100s is likely to be even better, particularly in the AF department.

I use the X100 every single day for street photography, and here is my take (good and bad) on the camera:

1. Startup time is fine, but could be faster. ALWAYS reformat the card after downloading to your computer (especially if you're downloading to Mac).

2. Shutter lag is minimal, with the most recent firmware updates.
...Show more

Sold my X100 to a friend and put complete downpayment for the X100s but overall I enjoyed using the X100.
Was in Florida last week, took over 3000 shots with the X100 and only 1000 with the 5DII and I only really used it for animals and volleyball.
1. I have the camera configured to battery save mode with only center focusing and parallax fix. it's not as quick as dslr (2-3 seconds boot) but it allows me to take the shot.
2. I found the shutter lag a bit slow tbh, missed couple of shots because of it, I have it set to single shot though, I see something, take a pic and wait for a second or two before Im able to take another shot or that the camera didnt finish focusing yet.
3. MF is actually usable on the X100, found it responsive enough and nothing beats the speed of
zone focusing
5. write speed is not really a problem IMO, although review speed can be slow at times.



Feb 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM
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p.1 #11 · Is this X100 slow?


love my x100 to pieces! for what I shoot it is fast enough by far and its dynamic range is unmatched by ANY dslr I have ever used...by FAR.

I love it so much I even started a blog for it. Everything seen here was shot with my terribly slow and poor focusing x100 lol

www.nikkoazan.wordpress.com



Feb 14, 2013 at 04:41 PM
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p.1 #12 · Is this X100 slow?


Wow, I see I didn't reply to this thread at all. Sorry folks . I mean no disrespect. All the efforts were appreciated, I just continued to contemplate and never really came to a decision.

So I've came back here as I wonder since people have had their X100S's for a while now if they can do any comparison. Is the X100S really that much quicker? Better in lowlight? Solved all the problems?



May 13, 2013 at 10:28 AM





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