p.2 #2 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Very nice photos.
Generally, some folks have a strong tendency to cling their old lenses, believing nothing can ever replace them. Sentimental perhaps, but this can be far from reality. Nikon 35 f/1.4 and Sigma 35 f/1.4 both smoke the Canon 35 f/1.4L.
p.2 #3 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Anyways, are you familiar with the place - your profile indicates Holland, relatively far from here
Hallo Eyvind, sure I live in the Netherlands and traveled a lot all over the globe. From all the places I have been Norway has a special place in my heart. I love your country. I have visited Norway since 1978 more than 50 times. Oslo is one of the nicest cities I know. I have quite some favorite spots for EOSfun over there. I have tons of pictures of just Frognerparken for instance. The reason I recognized the spot in your pictures, my company worked with Moller Bil, the car distributor. One of their outlets is just around the corner where your picture was taken So your shot not only was intereresting for the evaluation of the 35 IS, but it also brought back good memories. Thanks again! Ha det bra!
p.2 #4 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Thank you Eyvind. Looks great for me. Much better than I expected. IQ would fit my needs. And the IS addition would make it my choice against 35 1.4L and the Sigma anyway.
p.2 #5 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
My thoughts exactly, Ralph.
With this being $300 less than a USED 35L (US Prices), having IS, smaller size, and i believe closer focus.... there is almost no choice to make between the two.
p.2 #6 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
It seems we're all on the same page, in more than one way! I love the 35mm focal length, on FF. Until now, I've been very well served by the 35L for many years. I have no regrets selling it for the new 35mm f2 IS, though. I give up one full stop (f2 vs f1.4) that is less useful to me (f1.4-f2 gives me too little DOF, most of the time), and get much better MFD, 4 stops of IS, much lower weight, and similar, if not identical IQ.
p.2 #8 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Breitling65 wrote:
+1, also price difference is not as drastically huge. IS? I prefer to use right exposure to control shutter speed.
Even I think the new lens is priced to expensive, the actual difference of 600 $ here in germany looks very huge to me. Next to this I think there are broad IQ variations. The 1.4 sample tested at the-digital-picture.com is far away from beeing usable (imo) faster than 2.8. I would not purchase a 1.4 lens I have to stop down two stops to get acceptable results. The 40mm pancake looks sharper open than the 35 1.4 stopped down the two stops (again the tested sample at the-digital-image.com). But I guess this is not the standard.
Concerning IS ... - if there is a lens offering comparable IQ to others and adds IS the IS one would always be my choice. What is the "right exposure" to controll shutter speed? I prefere beeing able to get a shot hand hold at low light instead of not getting one.
p.2 #10 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
looks like some prismatic effect for those oof highlights around the wine glass probably caused by condensation droplets. You moved the camera to just the right spot to see them. I wouldn't worry.
p.2 #11 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Eyvind Ness wrote:
You mean you always carry a tripod around? If not, what *do* you mean?
Not exactly, difference between F2 and F1.4 is quiet large, as for me it is enough to keep shutter fast and getting sharp images using high iso's. Results with 5D3/high ISO are great, I am finally very happy with 35L (3rd copy)
p.2 #13 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
I've been very curious about this new generation of lenses from Sigma. The ability to play with the programming really intrigues me.
Your shot of the sandwich was awesome. I even liked the chromtic effect upper mid shot. We do lots of commercial food photography and from what I'm seeing, this lens is good at it.
Until this lens came along you couldn't convince me there was anything as good as L glass. I'm definately going to pick one up to play with.
p.2 #14 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Certainly seems like a very capable lens to me. I can think of a lot of scenarios I would rather have the IS than the shallow 1.4 DOF. But when you do need the 1.4 you need it Anyone could easily make the case why their style makes the IS or 1.4 more important to them.
Really struggling with getting another 35L or this lens now...
p.2 #16 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Pixel Perfect wrote:
looks like some prismatic effect for those oof highlights around the wine glass probably caused by condensation droplets. You moved the camera to just the right spot to see them. I wouldn't worry.
Thanks, Pixie! What you write makes sense, appreciate your input
p.2 #17 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Breitling65 wrote:
Not exactly, difference between F2 and F1.4 is quiet large, as for me it is enough to keep shutter fast and getting sharp images using high iso's. Results with 5D3/high ISO are great, I am finally very happy with 35L (3rd copy)
The difference between f1.4 and f2 is exactly one stop of light. While you gain up to 4 stops of light with IS engaged. For me, that gives the advantage to the 35mm f2 IS. For an ultra-shallow DOF lover it is f1.4 or nothing, apparently. I have no problem with that, and I can understand why people like the new Sigma 35mm f1.4, too
p.2 #18 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
Breitling65 wrote:
Not exactly, difference between F2 and F1.4 is quiet large, as for me it is enough to keep shutter fast and getting sharp images using high iso's. Results with 5D3/high ISO are great, I am finally very happy with 35L (3rd copy)
Fast apertures and IS both have their place and different strengths. You can't always shoot at f1.4 because DOF can get too thin at that aperture. Also a 3-4 stop IS indeed gives much more than the single stop that you get out of f1.4 vs f2. On the other hand IS only helps with static subjects whereas faster aperture helps with all subjects. So it is hard to argue that one is always better than the other - depends on your uses.
p.2 #19 · Sold the 35L for the new 35mm f2 IS: First impressions and a couple of snapshots
thanks for sharing the images.
I very often shoot the 35 1.4 below f2 actually. I also find I would hardly ever find IS useful for that lens, for my style of shooting. the lens, for me, is primarily used for environmental portraits, pj style, family, etc. I find I need minimum of 1/60 of second so get decently sharp people images, stopping THEIR movement. However, I certainly dont deny the utility of IS, and being able to shoot handheld at 1/5 sec to capture a city scene in motion, hand held etc. for me, of the 5515 shots in LR with 35 L, 81% were shot at f 1.8 or below.
the lens will also perform better than 35L stopped down, as 35L is not supersharp in the corners, for landscape use. However, it seems that the sigma also does well here. If I were to buy now, I would prefer both 1.4 lenses still over the f2 IS lens. the sigma looks very attractive b/c of its lower cost and image quality stopped down. but already owning the canon, and not gaining much in money by switching, and never knowing if sigma will have focusing issue, I am sitting this one out.
over there. I have tons of pictures of just Frognerparken for instance. The reason I recognized the spot in your pictures, my company worked with Moller Bil, the car distributor. One of their outlets is just around the corner where your picture was taken