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p.1 #1 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


Hey there...got me 6D yesterday.

Just started to play with it...one really weird thing...it doesn't seem to like aftermarket batteries.

When I put a canon battery in..it works fine.

When I put a fully charged Flashpoint battery works just dandy in my 5D mark 3...it says....

"communication with Canon LP-E6 battery is irregular. Continue to use this battery? "

if click ok...it seems to work...but the battery level is "empty"

Anyone else experience this?

Thanks..Arnie




Dec 07, 2012 at 10:25 AM
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p.1 #2 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


The battery is defective. Return it.


Dec 07, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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p.1 #3 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


I have been using that battery since May in my 5D mark 3 with no problems

I just tried a power2000 battery that I've been using since August in my 5D with no problems and got the same message on the 6D.

Seems like there's some communication between battery and 6D that only a
Canon battery can make.



Dec 07, 2012 at 10:58 AM
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p.1 #4 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


Interesting. It would appear Canon have increased the 6D 'security' around their OEM batteries in an effort to deter the counterfeiters. I expect soon they will catch up.


Dec 07, 2012 at 11:28 AM
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p.1 #5 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


It is a small pain but I would ignore it if the battery works fine with your 5D3. If you want to have a good laugh I am having the opposite problem, I just got 2 genuine Canon LP-E6's from B&H which won't register in my 5D3 and work fine with my 5D2. Also picked up 2 more el cheapo non-genuine LP-E6 spares from Amazon and they register and work fine in both camera's. Go figure.

Dave



Dec 07, 2012 at 11:40 AM
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p.1 #6 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


It will probably work fine...but I'd like to have a workable battery status.

I'd return the genuine ones if you could...they should work fine in both 5D's



Dec 07, 2012 at 12:04 PM
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p.1 #7 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


dhphoto wrote:
Interesting. It would appear Canon have increased the 6D 'security' around their OEM batteries in an effort to deter the counterfeiters. I expect soon they will catch up.

There is a coulomb counter type chip in the battery that monitors the charge state, number of uses, battery health, etc. Third party batteries rarely copy this feature. Likely the third party battery will work just fine, you just won't be able to monitor the charge state or health, etc. with the camera.

Just be glad they don't do like some other companies and lock out third party batteries entirely. If there is enough demand, third party batteries might start to support this feature (with added cost) or a ML patch to approximate the charge state of third party batteries should be added.

Do be careful when using third party batteries of questionable quality, it only takes one faulty battery failure to ruin your camera (just youtube 'exploding laptop' or something similar to see what can happen if the battery is faulty).



Dec 07, 2012 at 01:00 PM
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p.1 #8 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


I bought a Wasabi battery from Amazon, but should have read a posted review beforehand. Apparently Wasabi is aware of the issue and will offer a compatible battery in early 2013. I plan to return the Wasabi battery, which does seem to work in my 6D, and will buy a genuine Canon battery.


Dec 08, 2012 at 08:37 PM
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Access wrote:
There is a coulomb counter type chip in the battery that monitors the charge state, number of uses, battery health, etc. Third party batteries rarely copy this feature. Likely the third party battery will work just fine, you just won't be able to monitor the charge state or health, etc. with the camera.
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I believe you are correct but having the camera's battery level indicator indicating no charge could be annoying






Dec 09, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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slissner wrote:
I bought a Wasabi battery from Amazon, but should have read a posted review beforehand. Apparently Wasabi is aware of the issue and will offer a compatible battery in early 2013. I plan to return the Wasabi battery, which does seem to work in my 6D, and will buy a genuine Canon battery.


I'm using a Wasabi battery in my 5D mk iii and it works just like the original. If it works in your 6D, why return it?



Dec 09, 2012 at 10:57 AM
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I thought Wasabi goes with the sushi, not in a battery compartment

EBH



Dec 09, 2012 at 02:29 PM
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EB-1 wrote:
I thought Wasabi goes with the sushi, not in a battery compartment

EBH
No wonder I always get hungry when holding the camera with the battery



Dec 11, 2012 at 12:52 AM
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p.1 #13 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


Necroing to update:

I have a stack of off-brand batteries that I used with my 60D- and they all worked great with the 60D, even with the Meike battery grip.

None of them properly display battery level when used in the 6D and the camera complains about all of them. And at first they worked well; I figured I'd just run them till they stopped, which is easier when you're using Live View, GPS, and WiFi extensively, then swap. Not like they're hard to carry.

However, once drained, these batteries appear to not be charging in Canon's charger. The charger shows a continuous pulse (which isn't defined on it's legend) several seconds after inserting the dead battery, and while the batteries appear to have enough charge to turn the camera on, they're not lasting very long. That makes sense when they haven't had nearly enough time to pull a charge.

This is pretty frustrating right now- it feels like both the camera and the charger have been engineered to lie and obstruct the use of third party batteries. I understand Canon wanting to protect their super-high margin products as well as maintain guaranteed quality for their customers, but this does feel like they've gone a little too far!

Theory- I'm wondering if a third-party LP-E6 charger would properly charge these off-brand batteries. I have a pair of Wasabi's, a pair of something else, and a third, different battery. I'd rather not trash them! I know my local Best Buy has the LP-E6s in stock, and they happily match Amazon and B&H etc. Maybe they have an off-brand charger as well I could try.

*I've since sold the 60D with the charger it came with; I've moved recently and couldn't for the life of me find the the 60D's original battery, so I sent the 6D battery with it; I have no problem dealing with a lack of remaining battery power display output on the 6D, and figured I'd rather take care of my customer. This leaves me with zero Canon LP-E6's.




Jun 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM
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p.1 #14 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


Ordered two canon brand battery from BH, both fail to charge and power 6d. Both show date code 2011.
Unless they sell fake?
Now process to return 2nd one, pita.



Jun 24, 2013 at 07:29 PM
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p.1 #15 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


zhangyue wrote:
Ordered two canon brand battery from BH, both fail to charge and power 6d. Both show date code 2011.
Unless they sell fake?
Now process to return 2nd one, pita.


Got a brand new one from Best Buy, price matched with Amazon with a smile. Charges, discharges, and recharges perfectly.

Also got a third-party charger, which charges my third party battery collection that the Canon charger shipped with my 6D would not. They also discharge just fine, though they do get the 'Please pay the Canon tax' warning, and the camera does not show battery life.

What I want to know now is just how well the third party battery grips work. It doesn't take much to seal a battery grip as well as the camera and at least one claims to try, but I'm more interested in whether or not they accurately pass along battery information (assuming relevant Canon-brand batteries used). I find that I'm leaving GPS on and using Live View more often for landscapes, and I'd like to have the batteries on body if possible; and if the grip if sealed well enough, battery sleds could be exchanged without exposing the camera's guts, and battery grips are much cheaper.



Jun 24, 2013 at 08:24 PM
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p.1 #16 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


I just bought two of these and they work perfectly, batteries charge and show levels:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7S29B2/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1



Jun 25, 2013 at 08:01 AM
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p.1 #17 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


a123 wrote:
I just bought two of these and they work perfectly, batteries charge and show levels:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7S29B2/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Thanks for the link, that's exactly what I'm looking for!

I do have three questions, though, if you don't mind:

1. Who made the battery grip (Zeikos, Vello, Meike, if they're not all the same thing)
2. Is the grip 'sealed' at the connection to the camera body like the Canon grip
3. What are the batteries rated at- Canon's is 1800mA, and I have several off-brands that have more, up to 2600mA.

Thanks again!



Jun 25, 2013 at 09:36 AM
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p.1 #18 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


I had two Sterling Tek batteries that I ordered directly from STK (also available on Amazon( and they reported fine with the 6D...


Jun 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM
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p.1 #19 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


onegreatcity wrote:
I had two Sterling Tek batteries that I ordered directly from STK (also available on Amazon( and they reported fine with the 6D...


+1 on the SterlingTek batteries. I have 3 of them now and see no difference compared to the OEM batteries in terms of usage/functionality.



Jun 25, 2013 at 11:57 AM
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p.1 #20 · Issues with aftermarket batteries with Canon 6D


I used aftermarket batteries for years until I had two of them go bad within a couple weeks, almost leaving me in the lurch. I decided to start investing in genuine Canon and see how that goes.


Jun 25, 2013 at 03:51 PM
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