Are you planning to shoot landscapes, indoor performances, or what? Do you still have your d700 and 16-28? What about them isn't cutting it that makes you want a 5d or 7d?
Part of what should be factored in when determining value is how old/worn a thing is, and how it compares to more modern versions.
I understand that the 5Dc costs less than the 5D2; there are, obviously, reasons for that--the market determines the relative value, generally speaking, of used cameras. But it's worth keeping in mind that the market has done that because the market feels that the 5Dc is much, much less camera than the 5D2 (kind of like the price of the 1DS3 plummeted when the 5D3 came out, because the 5D3, new, is more attractive to many (most) people than a 1DS3 used).
I'm sure the 5Dc is a fine camera; hell, my old 10D is a fine camera. But when the price difference between a 5D2 in pristine condition and a 5Dc is unknown condition (not refurbished, but well-used) is much less than the cost of one good lens, it just seems odd to me to buy the completely outdated technology.
StarNut wrote:
But when the price difference between a 5D2 in pristine condition and a 5Dc is unknown condition (not refurbished, but well-used) is much less than the cost of one good lens, it just seems odd to me to buy the completely outdated technology.
JMO
The key as always is to find a body in good condition with a modest amount of clicks on the shutter. A 5D just sold here in the past day for $650 with only 3500 clicks by the original owner. As for it having completely outdated technology , I would agree that's true for all aspects of the camera except the part that takes great photos.
I own both a 5D2 and 7D and for landscape it is a no brainer for me...5D2 all the way for the better files it produces. 5D2 files are much more malleable in post processing than the counterpart 7D files.
dhphoto wrote:
I have both and that simply isn't true.
Yes you can get traditional full frame benefits from the 5D but in terms if actual printed image quality (not 100% pixel peeping) there is hardly anything between them and if you shoot anything that moves you may well prefer the 7D with it's bigger file, better focusing, LCD and other newer features
I also own both and have processed many thousands of wedding images from both cameras. I still stand by my opinion.
The 7D is a much better camera for the many reasons outlined in this thread. However the RAW images from the 5D are superior to my eye and require much less processing in LR. The 5D makes lovely large prints when needed. You have unwittingly supported my opinion when you said "if you shoot anything that moves you may well prefer the 7D with it's bigger file, better focusing, LCD and other newer features"....(7D is a better camera)
and also
"you can get traditional full frame benefits from the 5D"...(5D makes better pictures)
Maybe you just like disagreeing for the heck of it?
shoenberg3 wrote:
I seek maximal image quality even at the expense of practically everything else, so getting a 5D was really a no-brainer.
Exactly. Some people love pure image quality (5D), and some like bells and whistles (7D). I take image quality over bells and whistles any day. It's not a gizmo, it's a tool. To each his own.
chez wrote:
I own both a 5D2 and 7D and for landscape it is a no brainer for me...5D2 all the way for the better files it produces. 5D2 files are much more malleable in post processing than the counterpart 7D files.
What about the 5D (OP suggested camera)? I have used a 5D and have a 7D and would certainly never go back to the 5D. If I was upgrading to FF I completely agree that the 5D2 is a no-brainer for landscape and general photography. I would still keep the 7D for sports/action/wildlife.
jctriguy wrote:
What about the 5D (OP suggested camera)? I have used a 5D and have a 7D and would certainly never go back to the 5D. If I was upgrading to FF I completely agree that the 5D2 is a no-brainer for landscape and general photography. I would still keep the 7D for sports/action/wildlife.
The only thing the 5d has going for it today is it's price. You can pick one up for $500 and it will deliver amazing photos. Now if your focus is on landscapes, the 5d2 for $1200 is a no brainer. More pixels, liveview, sensor cleaning are big reasons to get the 5d2 over the 5d for landscape. 7d for sports or wildlife only for me.
