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Archive 2012 · Carl Zeiss Biogon vs Sonnar - what's the difference (?)

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Carl Zeiss Biogon vs Sonnar - what's the difference (?)


The new SONY RX1 will have a Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 35mm f/2.0 lens mounted.

In the ZM-lens line Carl Zeiss is producing the Biogon 35mm ZM T* f/2.0 lens - said by many experts to be among the sharpest 35mm lenses ever made.

What is the difference between the Biogon and a Sonnar f/2.0 lenses (?)



Oct 30, 2012 at 04:45 AM
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p.1 #2 · Carl Zeiss Biogon vs Sonnar - what's the difference (?)


Here is a bit of history about Zeiss lens design designations. Biogon and Sonnar represent different types of design. Zeiss also has a description somewhere but I can't find it right now, so this will have to do: http://www.panix.com/~zone/photo/czlens.htm

There are performance/IQ/application differences inherent in the different designs. On the RX-1 a Biogon design might not have been feasible (sensors are picky about oblique light angles hitting it) and a Sonnar-type design probably allowed for a more telecentric design among other requirements and characterisitics.




Oct 30, 2012 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #3 · Carl Zeiss Biogon vs Sonnar - what's the difference (?)


Here it is, Lotusm50:

http://blogs.zeiss.com/photo/en/?p=1044



Oct 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM
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p.1 #4 · Carl Zeiss Biogon vs Sonnar - what's the difference (?)


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Sonnar-type design probably allowed for a more telecentric design.....
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Suppose that is because of the full frame sensor (?)

I will thank you both for the link to the Carl Zeiss pages with the explanation about the different designs of their lenses (Biogon, Sonnar, distagon, etc...).



Oct 30, 2012 at 02:10 PM
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p.1 #5 · Carl Zeiss Biogon vs Sonnar - what's the difference (?)


Zeiss also used a Sonnar design for the ZA 24/2 for NEX cameras, although it's actually kind of a reverse-Sonnar design.


Oct 30, 2012 at 02:11 PM
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p.1 #6 · Carl Zeiss Biogon vs Sonnar - what's the difference (?)


The Biogon is a symmetric lens design (though, so is the Planar; the Biogon's halves are more complicated), and the chief feature is that it can produce a wide-angle lens with very low geometric image distortion.

Zeiss categorizes lenses in these families by the overall design; often, they are not really that pure. For instance, the 2/35 ZM is not really a symmetric design. They may have used that as a starting point, but then they added various corrections to end up with the qualities they desired (perhaps less CA, perhaps it was necessary to get an f/2 aperture, etc). It is very sharp when stopped down, and has essentially zero geometric distortion.

http://www.zeissimages.com/mtf/zm/Biogon2_35mm_ZM_e.pdf

The Contax G 28/2.8 is about as close to a pure Biogon as the modern Zeiss lenses get:

http://www.zeissimages.com/mtf/g/Biogon2.8_28mm_e.pdf




Oct 30, 2012 at 02:36 PM





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