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 p.1 #1 · Moving my thoughts away from posing for a minute | |
Framing the subject...now I need a refresher on this again. Specifically, I am referring to posed photos only...
So, what I often do is rule of thirds, often horizontal (need to do more vertical framing)...with rule of thirds and horizontal framing, I find myself doing shots like having her wrap arms around his neck and focusing on the ring, focusing on her face...or full body shots, or waist-cutoffs, or sometimes closer...but I am now bad at making compositionally good tighter framings except occasionally face-to-face (often with backlight), silhouette, etc...which backlit framing incidentally throws my lens AF off most times.
I also put them on a right/left corner of horizontal framing, usually cutoff around around chest...but this creates distortion (especially fat arms) with anything less than 50/85mm.
With vertical framing, I basically don't remember how to do effective full-length portraits anymore. Anything I do here frequently gets framed where the waist or abdomen is the cutoff point.
Basically, I have forgotten how to do good framing and cutoff points. As I was culling a set of photos yesterday, I saw some of that old experimentation I used to do...but some of the ideas were horrendous and I had to throw out the entire set of frames because they were just without purpose, were uninteresting, etc. This happened probably 2-3 times within that particular shoot. It seems that, in my attempts to try to experiment again, I've also ended up trying pointless/ineffective ideas that I should not be wasting time with.
As I said, seems like I have forgotten how to do good framing. Tony's use of lines, walls, and framing within the frame to draw the eye to subjects has always been very good IMO, but I haven't been able to understand very well how to achieve similar effects.
I seem to do a large amount of waist/midriff cropped framing, and a lot of chest-height framing.
This time...I'm actually going to show samples from one of my most recent shoots that I did some experimenting with - and also had many dry spells of creativity:
In this one, I notice that I tilted him toward her with all the lines and framing. I'm not sure I should have done that. I also think that somehow I could have put them in a much better position relative to the lines, but I can't seem to think of the better option.
1. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-01.jpg
This is an experimental type of shot I have been doing a bit lately, sometimes with the groom's eyes (or more) cropped out of the frame. Seems like I framed her eyes in center this time, I don't know how I could have framed better but I have reservations about this too...
2. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-02.jpg
Possibly my favorite of the whole set (or one of them), because of the backlit flare. I probably should have tried to avoid the flare on his face.
3. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-03.jpg
Another experiment, I basically could not figure out how I should frame this idea at all. Quite possibly a set of photos that I should not have taken...my full-body stuff is often lacking (partly due to posing knowledge deficiency).
4. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-04.jpg
Looking at it now, perhaps this is actually the opposite of a leading line - although them being on the right side of the frame is more keyed to those who read from left to right. I don't know if this is appropriate framing or not.
5. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-05.jpg
I do this type of shot often, usually have to watch out for big shoulders so often shot from above, always have to frame them in mid-bottom (controlling fisheye distortion), and usually with ambient light instead of the flash I used this time. Wondering if there are other framings for a similar shot that would work without distorting them badly...
6. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-06.jpg
Watch out for big front hand, 24 or 35mm - distortion of the hands in bottom right was actually reduced a little in photoshop. This is a common framing I use for having the Vegas background - them towards left/right edge, vertical framing. Any suggestions to improve it are welcome...
7. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-07.jpg
I experiment with this type of shot often, but the light in this specific situation wasn't as good as I would like. Ideas on this also extremely welcome -
8. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-08.jpg
Similar framing concept (and better overall image IMO, though not sure how to duplicate the good parts) from a previous shoot:
8. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/MR--01.jpg
Not sure, this seems fairly good overall to me, not sure if anything is specifically wrong with this shot...
9. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-09.jpg
Corner framing, others without arm in photo might be better...
10. http://www.joeyallenphoto.com/Weddings/Oct16_12/LJ-10.jpg
This is just a small sample set and does not reflect all of my framings, but I really need/want some suggestions about framing differently, more effectively, how you frame things, etc...
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