NEX-6 PDAF vs. EM-5 CDAF
NEX-6 focus peaking vs. EM-5 without
NEX-6 1080 60p vs. EM-5 1080 30p
NEX-6 APS-C vs. EM-5 M43 (Sony sensor)
NEX has full frame upgrade path, M43 doesn't
The NEX, just like all mirrorless systems, first targets the general public and then focuses on the higher-end users. The NEX body and lens introductions have clearly reflected this basic strategy. With the introduction of several NEX professional video cameras with class leading features, a NEX full frame camcorder, RX-1 FF P&S, and soon a NEX FF still camera, there's no doubt in my mind that the NEX system is now targeting the highest-end professional still and video markets.
M43 market share is facing huge pressure from below and above. Smartphones are taking away P&S market share, forcing camera makers to introduce more and more advanced compact cameras with larger sensors. These advanced P&S will eat into Nikon 1 and M43 market share. Worldwide, APS-C mirrorless cameras are also taking market share away from M43 systems. With NEX going FF and RX1 FF P&S already here, is there any doubt that Sony is planning to introduce APS-C P&S in the near future and that will put even more pressure on the M43 systems.
Wow looks like NEX is going to rule the photography world . Canon, Nikon, etc are going to die...I guess you need a NEX tattoo then somewhere .
A.Y. wrote:
NEX-6 PDAF vs. EM-5 CDAF
NEX-6 focus peaking vs. EM-5 without
NEX-6 1080 60p vs. EM-5 1080 30p
NEX-6 APS-C vs. EM-5 M43 (Sony sensor)
NEX has full frame upgrade path, M43 doesn't
The NEX, just like all mirrorless systems, first targets the general public and then focuses on the higher-end users. The NEX body and lens introductions have clearly reflected this basic strategy. With the introduction of several NEX professional video cameras with class leading features, a NEX full frame camcorder, RX-1 FF P&S, and soon a NEX FF still camera, there's no doubt in my mind that the NEX system is now targeting the highest-end professional still and video markets.
M43 market share is facing huge pressure from below and above. Smartphones are taking away P&S market share, forcing camera makers to introduce more and more advanced compact cameras with larger sensors. These advanced P&S will eat into Nikon 1 and M43 market share. Worldwide, APS-C mirrorless cameras are also taking market share away from M43 systems. With NEX going FF and RX1 FF P&S already here, Sony may introduce APS-C P&S and that will put even more pressure on the M43 systems....Show more →
M4/3 has high quality small lenses 12/2, 14/2.5, 20/1.7 , with a 17/1.8 coming soon, plus a superb 45mm which is fast and small. These are all at the most popular 35mm equivalent focal lengths -24, 28, 35, 40 and 90mm. Sony only has a poor quality, slow 24mm equivalent, a disproportionately large 35mm equivalent, a cluster of lenses around 50mm equivalents (for which M4/3 has the 25/1.4 50mm equivalent) and the odd 75mm equivalents.
It is not that some good lenses are not there for NEX, it's just that the focal lengths are sometimes somewhat off what many are used to, quality is mixed, with only one excellent lens, and that they are mostly over-sized when comparing to M4/3.
They have a long way to go to get the body/lens ratios right. Where is the wide standard pancake that would make the camera pocket-able?
that's kind of a pointless argument on many levels. most obviously, none of the NEX lenses existed when that photo was taken. it's true that sony still hasn't made any lenses that would be good for such task, but on the other hand 99.999999% of consumers aren't interested in paying for those types of lenses (note: some of the photographers in that picture probably didn't pay for the lenses their using either).
anyway, i remain largely unimpressed by sony, olympus, panasonic, canon, nikon, and pentax's lens lineups (i'm not crazy about zeisses either).
Pointless ? I think that's an overused word, you need to use it sparingly. He listed a bunch of Sony lenses I'm just asking how good were they ?.
And I agree with you, be open minded don't be a fanboy! .
sebboh wrote:
that's kind of a pointless argument on many levels. most obviously, none of the NEX lenses existed when that photo was taken. it's true that sony still hasn't made any lenses that would be good for such task, but on the other hand 99.999999% of consumers aren't interested in paying for those types of lenses (note: some of the photographers in that picture probably didn't pay for the lenses their using either).
anyway, i remain largely unimpressed by sony, olympus, panasonic, canon, nikon, and pentax's lens lineups (i'm not crazy about zeisses either).
kewlcanon wrote:
Credible ?. Look at the picture above .. any good Sony lenses in Olympics . You notice I didn't call any particular name a fanboy .
dude, your picture IS pointless to the topic of this thread and in general. there are no m4/3 or sony lenses in that picture (remember the thread is about m4/3 vs NEX) because (a) neither system is designed with pro sports photographers in mind, and (b) the NEX system didn't even exist at the time of the picture, so any of their lenses being in that picture would be proof of time travel or photoshop tampering. finally, the fact that there are only canon and nikon lenses in that picture says nothing about how good the lenses are, it's simply a side effect of canon and nikon being the only producers of cameras designed for pro sports photography as well the only companies that provide proper support for traveling pros.
Yes, it's pointless for people that love the system they own . I enjoy reading excuses too .
sebboh wrote:
dude, your picture IS pointless to the topic of this thread and in general. there are no m4/3 or sony lenses in that picture (remember the thread is about m4/3 vs NEX) because (a) neither system is designed with pro sports photographers in mind, and (b) the NEX system didn't even exist at the time of the picture, so any of their lenses being in that picture would be proof of time travel or photoshop tampering. finally, the fact that there are only canon and nikon lenses in that picture says nothing about how good the lenses are, it's simply a side effect of canon and nikon being the only producers of cameras designed for pro sports photography as well the only companies that provide proper support for traveling pros....Show more →
kewlcanon wrote:
Yes, it's pointless for people that love the system they own . I enjoy reading excuses too .
um, ok. how is it useful to other people who say don't own either system?
incidentally, does one have to own more than just a camera to have a system? for example, does somebody with a canon camera and no canon lenses (or other exessories) have a canon system. can they be somebody who just likes canon cameras and doesn't like the canon system?
Now you came in like somebody has insulted the system you own .
Take it easy NEX will rule the world after they show some lenses in Olympic 2015 .
sebboh wrote:
um, ok. how is it useful to other people who say don't own either system?
incidentally, does one have to own more than just a camera to have a system? for example, does somebody with a canon camera and no canon lenses (or other exessories) have a canon system. can they be somebody who just likes canon cameras and doesn't like the canon system?
Now you came in like somebody has insulted the system you own .
Take it easy NEX will rule the world after they show some lenses in Olympic 2015 .
i definitely read those posts, that's why i'm so confused by you. your response to somebody saying why they think NEX is better positioned than m4/3 was to say canon and nikon are the only companies that make good lenses. i came in like i thought you were making comments totally unrelated to the discussion.
. Canon, Nikon, etc are going to die...I guess you need a NEX tattoo then somewhere 
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i came in like i thought you were making comments totally unrelated to the discussion.