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I've wanted to get into cinematography for a while now and after looking over these cameras at bestbuy it suddently hit me just how affordable it would be to build up a multi camera system to record a wedding day and more so the ceremony with relative easy.

Has anybody tried using them for weddings specifically?

I am thinking of picking up 4 bodies and then using a lot of AIS glass to make the videos with. I think it could make it really easy as it wouldn't be hard to setup multiple cameras to capture so many different and unique angles.

Any ideas?



Oct 13, 2012 at 05:58 PM
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p.1 #2 · Nikon D3200 for recording video of weddings?


The D3200 has a recording limit of 20minutes in one take.

Are you just planning on using them stationary? One of the largest costs of using DSLRs for video are the supporting rig gear. There's a place for using DSLRs for video work. It sounds like you'd be better of with a group of video specific cameras unless you plan on specifically going for narrow DOF work and can work with the 20min time limits.

DSLRs strengths are their image quality and sensor size. Anyone shooting video who has the option will likely go for something like the new VG900 from sony or an fs100 or C300. The form factor is simply more convenient.



Oct 13, 2012 at 07:59 PM
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p.1 #3 · Nikon D3200 for recording video of weddings?


I've wanted to get into cinematography for a while now and after looking over these cameras at bestbuy it suddently hit me just how affordable it would be to build up a multi camera system to record a wedding day and more so the ceremony with relative easy.

Ah. This is why I love FM. People tell such great jokes here!



Oct 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM
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Again I don't see the challenges behind this. The 20M recording time definitely was one of the things I was looking at but at the same time most of the recordings that are done don't need to be that long as you are generally splicing together a lot of different clips and inserting the audio. I'd be using a wireless audio setup that would need to be tethered into the videos in post.

I was thinking of buying 3 D3200's for it. Basically when the bride is coming down the aisle having one camera pointed at her, one at the groom and then a third that is stationed to capture the parents and bride and groom embracing.

Once things are setup a camera on the left and right to capture the emotions of the bride and groom as they share vows. A third camera down the centre aisle to view ring exchanges, first kiss, etc.

I've given a lot of thought to it and would love to try it. My only concern though was just how good the quality would be on the D3200. From what I've researched a lot of the video capabilities are relatively the same it appears.

Yes it might be easier to use a full on video camera however I'm a photographer first and only wanting to throw in the video as it's something I've been really curious about for a long long time.




Oct 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM
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Again I don't see the challenges behind this.

That's because you haven't done it yet.

You'd want to step up to at least a D7000 because the lower end models don't have manual controls in video mode. Also, the camera is the easiest part of video... You need support. Good, solid tripods, preferably with video heads so that you can move the camera while recording. You need to think about audio. The on camera audio isn't going to cut it. Most people run a Rode VideoMic on camera for run and gun situations and use an external audio recorder (sometimes with wireless mics) - but at least you're aware of that.

And if you're only shooting from a stationary position with no camera movement and slow subject movement you may not notice it, but the D3200's compression and rubbery motion swing are problems that are lessened in the upper-end models.

Like most things, it's harder than it looks. But hey, go for it and prove me wrong.



Oct 14, 2012 at 01:51 PM
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Hmmm what manual controls were you referring to? See this is something I wasn't aware. Just curious what functionality it has then?

I would be thinking all I really need is something to control IS & Aperture and even then as I'm using old school AIS lenses it's set within the lens itself.

Audio I was 100% aware that the in camera audio is horrible. I do have a wireless mic setup already. I am not against the D7000 it would just be if I could get the camera at the right price point.



Oct 14, 2012 at 05:22 PM
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mikethevilla wrote:
That's because you haven't done it yet.

You'd want to step up to at least a D7000 because the lower end models don't have manual controls in video mode. Also, the camera is the easiest part of video... You need support. Good, solid tripods, preferably with video heads so that you can move the camera while recording. You need to think about audio. The on camera audio isn't going to cut it. Most people run a Rode VideoMic on camera for run and gun situations and use an external audio recorder (sometimes with wireless mics) - but at least you're aware
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It's also just to be get me started into. I would think when I got fully into I'd likely start using D600 bodies.

am I also to assume that a 100mm lens would have a 150mm perspective in video on the D3200? So similar as if taking stills?



Oct 14, 2012 at 05:28 PM
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I'm a Nikon user but for video, I use Panasonic, currently GH1 and soon GH3. Better control and better quality for video and an EVF plus articulated LCD.


Oct 15, 2012 at 07:37 AM
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equestrianguy wrote:
I've wanted to get into cinematography for a while now and after looking over these cameras at bestbuy it suddently hit me just how affordable it would be to build up a multi camera system to record a wedding day and more so the ceremony with relative easy.

Has anybody tried using them for weddings specifically?

I am thinking of picking up 4 bodies and then using a lot of AIS glass to make the videos with. I think it could make it really easy as it wouldn't be hard to setup multiple cameras to capture so many different
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Have you ever shot video before? Or, have you ever taken photos for a wedding before? If you haven't shot video then you are in for it. Its not going to be easy trying to shoot a wedding on a D3200. let alone trying to man more than 1 camera and get decent work. If you haven't shot a wedding before then you are really in for it. No two weddings are ever the same and they always change. You can go in with a plan and come out confused as to why it didnt work.

I shoot weddings for a living and have added video to` our business recently. When we do video we take 3 people. When we do photos and video we roll with 4 people.

Why do you all of a sudden want to or think you can do wedding video? Im curious.



Oct 16, 2012 at 09:11 AM
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I am a wedding photographer from the days of film. With all these dslr video hypes non of my videographers are even talking of trying one. It is something you really have to consider. Wedding is no fun, unless you are doing it for free.


Oct 16, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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p.1 #11 · Nikon D3200 for recording video of weddings?


Jorgen Udvang wrote:
I'm a Nikon user but for video, I use Panasonic, currently GH1 and soon GH3. Better control and better quality for video and an EVF plus articulated LCD.


Yep, go this route. At least AF is usable on the Panny models.



Oct 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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We shoot wedding videos all the time and have used a variety of cameras over the years, including Canon DSLRs (550D, 60D, 7D, 5D2) and also the D800. We've now sold all the Canon DSLRs

Multiple angles are absolutely needed if you want to give the viewer some relief during a long section (vows, exchange of rings etc) and for sure during speeches. Doing it on the cheap is almost always problematic though and requires multiple people to do it when using DSLRs.

Shooting with cameras that are time limited is not such a problem as long as you have them all manned, can see each other, can communicate with each other silently (pre-arranged hand signals) and you are all paying attention instead of getting sleepy, bored or having fun listening to a great speech. DSLRs do not allow for unmanned cameras for most ceremonies (they are too long), which is why the 550D with magic lantern firmware was so useful at the time.

However, after a while, the call of the DSLR wears off, especially when you realise it's almost impossible to get both bride and groom in clear focus from a side shot! We've migrated back to using regular video cameras for the ceremonies and speeches because of longer run times and easier focusing (more depth of field). There are some things DSLRs are great for and then there are times when a regular video camera is better. We're not talking cheap handicams either. Don't buy cheap consumer handicams and hope it will be OK, the picture will die on you when the light goes!

We tend to use the DSLRs more for the creative shots where shallow DOF is useful, and for when it's really low light (though to be fair our video cameras with some noise reduction do just as well, and the speakers can move and you aren't as worried about maintaining focus).

If you are planning on putting together a cheap system using primes be very aware of how your planned shooting style is going to impact the day, particularly the photographer. There are too many people thinking wedding videos are easy (they are not) and don't pay attention to the needs of everyone else on the day. If you get in the way of the photographer too many times, he can find ways to really screw you in return. You need to be able to stand well back and not be in the line of sight of the photographer, in the face of the couple and/or who ever is taking the ceremony.

When we are shooting video we have an absolute minimum crew of two, usually three for video cameras and a minimum of three when using DSLRs. When we shoot photo and video it's four, just like paparazznick. Can it be done with fewer people? Of course. Can it be done 'well' with fewer people? That depends on what style of video you are trying to do.

If you are are a single person trying to rig, run and pull down multiple cameras, you may well get the guts of the ceremony or speeches, but what you will lose out on is the transitional sections, leaving the ceremony, leaving church, arriving at the reception etc. You'll be spending more time running around clearing up your kit and less time shooting, which is never good.

Also, if you've never shot a wedding video, my guess is you've never edited one either. Shooting weddings requires good planning, good foresight for what is about to happen, great teamwork on the day, being aware of what everyone else is doing, great shooting skills on the day (no retakes!) and good editing skills afterward. But there is still MORE to it than that. It's no good shooting for the moment and later coming back and realising you should have started 2 seconds earlier and hung on to the shots for another 2 - 3 seconds because now it's too late and you are about to make a nasty cut that could have so easily been avoided. So, you'll need to learn another skill, one which most amateur video people never quite master, and that's "shooting for the edit", rather than for the "moment", and 'that' takes experience.

In terms of using cameras and lenses, primes are gorgeous, but they don't give a lot of flexibility. Zooms are slower but allow more framing options. Also, remember that when you are stood at the back of the church, looking down the isle, trying to frame the B+G so you get a close shot (say top half) of them for the ring shot, you could easily be at 200mm, f2.8 and DOF of just a few inches (maybe 6" !). Your focusing skills need to be spot on.

Now, you've thought about cameras, but you didn't even mention audio and lighting. Picture is only half, perhaps less than half of video. You need to be skilled at capturing, processing and mixing audio too. If you think audio comes easy you are in for a big shock! People can put up with all sorts of problems with video but if the sound is bad it's totally unwatchable. I've only once used the audio recorded on a DSLR and that's because all the 5 (five!) other audio sources had problems and we had no choice.

Don't learn this stuff at a real live wedding, even one you are doing for free. Make sure you have this stuff down before even thinking about a wedding. Then have a backup plan. And a plan C, D, E & F. And then a plan for when something happens you didn't plan for



Oct 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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equestrianguy wrote:
Basically when the bride is coming down the aisle having one camera pointed at her, one at the groom and then a third that is stationed to capture the parents and bride and groom embracing.

Once things are setup a camera on the left and right to capture the emotions of the bride and groom as they share vows. A third camera down the centre aisle to view ring exchanges, first kiss, etc.


So, it sounds like you plan to be moving around, moving cameras, repositioning them, setting them going, moving back to another camera (which could be on the other side) and then effectively moving between them. That would get you thrown out of most church weddings around here, and maybe some civil ceremonies too.... even if there was the room to move around without having to push past the B+G, which there usually isn't.

It all sounds great in theory..... the practicality of it all soon makes things a lot harder than they first appear.




Oct 16, 2012 at 12:03 PM
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JOSHUA.ABIOLA wrote:
I am a wedding photographer from the days of film. With all these dslr video hypes non of my videographers are even talking of trying one. It is something you really have to consider. Wedding is no fun, unless you are doing it for free.

Weddings are a blast when youre getting paid. They are no fun when you are doing them for free



Oct 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM
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. Yep ipad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oct 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM
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JOSHUA.ABIOLA wrote:
. Yep ipad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






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