Thanks Peter! I was thinking something similar when I saw Jefferson's version just before posting. So similar in composition, pretty well the same colors, and yet such a different mix -- a mash-up of each other. Beautiful shot there, Jefferson, with the color behind.
Wow, three pages since my last post. I do wonder where some of you guys find time to shoot, sort and PP all these images.
Another from the archives. I'm re-visiting with LR4 to see if i can do a better job with it than with LR3, but i'm still not completely satisfied. For sure LR4 is much easier though. 350D / 70-200mm f/2.8L:
15Bit wrote:
Another from the archives. I'm re-visiting with LR4 to see if i can do a better job with it than with LR3, but i'm still not completely satisfied. For sure LR4 is much easier though.
LR4 has a different way of "developing" images, which I find better and easier than LR3. Look in the menu under Library, go down to "Find Previous Process Photos", then convert them. You will find that your develop options will have changed to the new process. Maybe that will make things clearer, did for me.
John_T wrote:
LR4 has a different way of "developing" images, which I find better and easier than LR3. Look in the menu under Library, go down to "Find Previous Process Photos", then convert them. You will find that your develop options will have changed to the new process. Maybe that will make things clearer, did for me.
Thanks John. I've been playing with LR4 for a while now, so the conversion option is not new to me. I also find the new sliders easier than the old, now i've got used to them. Some images however i find worked better with the old process, and the conversion from old to new does not give completely 100% identical results either, so i'm not going to do a bulk conversion of everything to the new process.
The problem with this one is getting the contrast characteristics to my liking. It would probably help if i wasn't changing my mind every time i look at it too I'm making great use of LR's "create virtual copy" option. I might also run it through Capture One and see how does.
Poking around with this shot i've bumped into some colour management problems too. I got a wide gamut screen last week (the ubiquitous Dell U2410) and have been converting all my desktop backgrounds to the new resolution. I am properly calibrated (Spyder3), but even exporting the desktop background as RGB gives a significant colour shift. I thought Win7 didn't colour manage the desktop, meaning RGB would be fine, but apparently not.
I don't know the Dell, so can't say much. I have two Eizo CG241Ws, that using the Eizo ColorNavigator calibration software, hardware calibrates the monitor itself, not the graphic card, so anything that appears on the display is calibrated. I also use the new X-rite i1 Display Pro puck that I find better than anything I've used to date. I find that this all helps clarity over what LR4 is doing, especially the subtleties.
Often I use Auto Tone first to see what it does with an image, then either adjust those settings to my liking, or if I don't like it, reset and mess around with it myself. I don't use the contrast slider much, but playing around between the Clarity and Saturation sliders, approaching contrast with colors differently, and/or may play with Highlights, Whites and Blacks for grey scale contrast or recovery to accent what I want out of the image. I find I have more control in LR4 than in LR3, which somehow felt kinda vague and lurchy.
John - i looked at hardware calibrateable screens, but they are just way out of my budget range. The "solution" to my desktop pic problem seems to be exporting the images with the monitor profile selected as colour space rather than RGB. You'd think MS would have this colour management thing cracked by now.
Some more contre-jour shots from this year. 5D / 70-200mm f/2.8L:
Thanks John, but these are actually out of my kitchen window. Unfortunately I'm not able to go walking in the woods at the moment due to the 7mm of polapsed disc in my lower back...
I'm making great use of LR's "create virtual copy" option. I might also run it through Capture One and see how does.