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Archive 2012 · Canon Drop-In Filters: "Gelatin 52" vs "Gelatin 52 WII"

  
 
RallyRocks
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p.1 #1 · Canon Drop-In Filters: "Gelatin 52" vs "Gelatin 52 WII"


I'm having trouble finding a replacement "Gelatin 52" 52mm Drop-In Gelatin Filter Holder for my 400mm DO lens. I can't seem to find any even listed at the major retailers (e.g. B&H, Adorama). All I can find (other than the screw-in filter holders, which I'm not interested in), is the "WII" version for the new version 2 super telephotos. See here.

Can anyone tell me the difference between the WII and original 52mm Drop-In Gelatin Filter Holders? Is it just paint color and they're otherwise equivalent or should I really hunt down the original model for my lens? If it's the latter, does anyone know where I can find one?

Thanks!



Aug 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Roland W
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p.1 #2 · Canon Drop-In Filters: "Gelatin 52" vs "Gelatin 52 WII"


Are you actually wanting to use the holder for holding a gel. If not, the screw in filter holder comes with a clear screw in filter, and might work for you.

I am not sure about the differences between the "old" and "new" holders, but I think that they are physically interchangable, based on how things are listed as accessories, and that the "old" versions are no longer for sale. A call to Canon parts might be a way to get an answer.



Aug 10, 2012 at 02:07 PM
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p.1 #3 · Canon Drop-In Filters: "Gelatin 52" vs "Gelatin 52 WII"


Roland W wrote:
Are you actually wanting to use the holder for holding a gel. If not, the screw in filter holder comes with a clear screw in filter, and might work for you.


I didn't realize it came with a clear filter so that may work. The glass element in my drop-in gelatin holder is scratched so I'm looking to replace it -- the screw-in may not be a bad option.

Thanks for your help and suggestions - I'll probably end up calling Canon, but thought I'd check here first. I thought someone may have one of each style and had tried swapping them.



Aug 10, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Roland W
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p.1 #4 · Canon Drop-In Filters: "Gelatin 52" vs "Gelatin 52 WII"


I sometimes want to put a neutral density filter in my 300 f2.8 L IS, so I specifically got the screw in filter holder for that use. I can then in general mount any 52mm filter in the screw in holder. I also found I like a deep red filter for some night photography of stars, so I got a 52mm version of that also.

There is not a lot of clearance in the thickness direction to allow the filter holder to drop in to place when a filter is mounted on it, so watch out for some filters that are particularly thick. B+W is one company that sells thin filters in some types. I do not have a big selection of filters I have tried, but my B+W MRC Slim in Dark Red, and my Marumi DHG ND filter each fit in my 300 easily.



Aug 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM
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p.1 #5 · Canon Drop-In Filters: "Gelatin 52" vs "Gelatin 52 WII"


if the regular filter is a clear filter, what purpose does the clear filter serve? I can understand using a polarizer or ND gelatin filter but don't see the purpose of having the clear one


Sep 15, 2012 at 05:47 AM
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p.1 #6 · Canon Drop-In Filters: "Gelatin 52" vs "Gelatin 52 WII"


For at least some of the Canon supertelephoto lenses that accept these filters, the instructions say that a filter or some other glass should be installed with using the lens, because it is part of the optical design. I personally do not think there is a big enough issue to worry about, but that is the reason they send it with a clear filter. And, as RallyRocks stated, the gel filter holder also has a glass element as part of its construction, and the gel lays against it if you install one.


Sep 15, 2012 at 09:56 AM





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