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 p.4 #8 · Will there ever be APS-H in a compact body? | |
i like this APSH thread, because i actually and exclusively use this sensor format. just some more thoughts:
as i wrote, i am really satisfied with with the last two APSH cameras and for the moment it is everything i use (sold my APSC gear and a 5D2). the only thing i miss is a bit more WA, for example using the 24L which becomes a 30mm equivalent FOV. and that is quite a big difference.
sensor format has become less important than before - when FF always was the one and only format for truly satisfying IQ.
to me, your question is less about FF and APSH, but about APSH and APSC. if Canon stopped APSH, then also because APSC-sensors just became good enough (look how they push the 7D). so what is the advantage of APSH regarding APSC ? well, you get more potential resolution and IQ and an interesting (for some lenses) 1.26 / 1.28 crop factor on EF lenses instead of the 1.6 crop factor.
regarding FF, APSH gives more reach, yes. but coming pro FF bodies will deliver 3x MP and birdies and wildlife freaks will be happy and not look back to APSH, because they get much more resolution. of course a kind of high end 7D2 APSC will be a cheaper option, but i bet a 3xmp FF pro body will be ultimatively interesting because of it's so interesting higher iso performance.
you are asking if a compact APSH camera is thinkable ?
if it's better than top APSC and close enough to top FF (while cheaper and lighter than FF) then yes.
but this segmet seems to be covered by the coming budget FF segment.
in the end i really continue to appreciate the raw IQ as the excellent jpeg output of the 1D4. that sensor in a handy body with the 1Dx AF ... yes, i would like it - a lot.
atroester wrote:
I wonder if there's any other photogs/videogs like me out there that enjoy using the 1D4 for photos/video but would love to see the 7D2/etc. have an APS-H sensor. Because:
- APS-H is, IMHO, the perfect balance between full-frame and APS-C for natural DOF in relation to light needed and aperture size.
- APS-H is also the perfect balance between having a little more reach yet very good high-ISO noise capabilities, blowing away the APS-C.
- Shooting with 5Ds is always great, but the amount of light needed to stop down for larger DOF can be annoying. I've got to essentially have a full-time focus puller to get anything in focus for a shot. Also, there's a 'look' to full-frame that gets old quickly, and isn't quite right for every shoot/client
- The 1D4 is sometimes too big/heavy for certain scenarios, and also for the $$$ it is worth, I hate to pull that out and take it all the time for video work (it's quite overkill and much more of a liability out in the field. If a 7D falls in the water, I can replace it for around $900).
- The APS-C sensor though, unless in a very well lit and controlled studio environment, means extra hours in post pulling noise out and overlaying grain/effects to hide the very prevalent banding. After shooting quite a bit with 7Ds and T3is, etc. I made the decision to never use the sensor unless it was a very specific studio environment. I work in run-and-gun style production, meaning I can't afford to create extra work for myself in NeatVideo and Magic Bullet getting the 7D footage up to par. No matter how much you love the sensor, it requires more time in post. Per project, that expands exponentially, costing me money and time.
I realize Canon won't do this with the next 7D because of the money invested in EF-S lenses, but do you think there will ever be a compact camera with this great sensor? I would pick up a 7D2 built as a baby 1D4 with APS-H in a heartbeat. Would be the perfect all-around photo/video machine, IMHO....Show more →
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