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Archive 2012 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

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p.4 #1 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Dammit Jman, you're going to force me to at least rent this lens.

Oh, congrats to your parents' 40th -- sadly, a bit of a rare occurrence in these times. My wishes for many more celebrations to follow!

Aug 06, 2012 at 11:45 AM

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p.4 #2 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Thanks!

Tested it at night tonight. Aside from purple fringing wide open, this with the E-M5 is the ultimate night street photography tool. I'm not a street photographer, but well, it's the ultimate night photography tool, period. When I was shooting wide open, the highest ISO I needed was ISO 400. I went as high as 800 when I wanted to stop down a little.

I shot most of the night at ISO 200.

I also ran into a friend from high school on the one bridge. I haven't seen this person in 15 years, so it was a little odd to run into him here, especially since he lives down south. He was out taking pictures on the bridge too.

ISO 200, f/1.2:
http://www.jordansteele.com/2012/brent.jpg

f/0.95:
http://www.jordansteele.com/2012/fish_flood.jpg

f/0.95:
http://www.jordansteele.com/2012/scioto_mile.jpg

f/0.95:
http://www.jordansteele.com/2012/scioto_river.jpg

f/0.95:
http://www.jordansteele.com/2012/bridge_lights.jpg

f/2 (I think):
http://www.jordansteele.com/2012/rich_bridge.jpg

And defocused lights (f/0.95...this is about halfway to MFD...at MFD, it was one big blur):
http://www.jordansteele.com/2012/nokton_bokeh.jpg

Aug 07, 2012 at 10:34 PM

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p.4 #3 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

^^^ Cool shots Jman!

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Nice comparison! Thanks!

At 1600 I thought the OM-D was slightly better. I loaded the images into browser tabs and flipped back and forth.

At 3200 doing the same thing, I thought the the Nex was slightly better.

They are indeed very very close though.

Interesting!

I would love to see the same thing done but with the GH2 in there too. I'm betting it would come up as about the same as well. Shooting the GH1 I thought the OM-D was so awesome (at noise control with high ISOs) and then I got the GH2 and went... Now wait a minute, I don't see any major difference... :-/

Jman13 wrote:
...modern m4/3 is not two stops worse than FF.

Makten wrote:
The OM-D is not even close to the NEX-5N at ISO 200-800. It's at least one stop difference, probably more. I'll have to do a shootout some day.

cputeq wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by this (the OM-D sensor behind the NEX5N, or the low ISO is worse?)

I had to sate my curiosity, though.

Here we go:

Olympus OM-D vs NEX-5N at ISO1600.
Tripod mounted, evaluative metering, F/4 resulting in almost exact exposure settings (A priority mode).
Framed as closely as possible, autoWB on both cameras.
Olympus gradiation was set to "normal" I believe, and shadows and highlights were both zeroed.

RAW, default profile in LR 4.1, exported to JPEG with no resizing, etc.

To all who would slander this test - this is an operational test, meaning if two people were after the same...Show more →

Aug 08, 2012 at 01:29 AM

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p.4 #4 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Great review. I'm totally convinced. Now the question will be: What to buy first, the OM-D or the lens

Aug 08, 2012 at 05:42 AM

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p.4 #5 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

What do you have already? If nothing, it doesn't matter

Aug 08, 2012 at 05:46 AM

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p.4 #6 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Lens fit to any m4/3. I would start with them and cheap m4/3 body. Difference between OM-D and rest is pretty decent, but not earth shattering. Plus theres GX1 too.. (which is quite cheaper and sometimes even available SH).

Aug 08, 2012 at 06:13 AM

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p.4 #7 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

I bought a really cheap E-PL3, which has the same sensor and AF as the E-P3, but is smaller and much cheaper. That is a really nice little body, and it makes great 12MP photos.

Aug 08, 2012 at 06:31 AM

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p.4 #8 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Jordan, those samples look awesome. Couple of questions; does the camera recognize the lens as m4/3 native? Exif, etc.? Does the IBIS function with video? Or does it function like an adapted lens without an adapter?

Aug 08, 2012 at 07:20 AM

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p.4 #9 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Jorgen Udvang wrote:
Great review. I'm totally convinced. Now the question will be: What to buy first, the OM-D or the lens

Thanks, and I haven't even done my review yet! I'll be posting a full in depth review on my site in a day or two.

As to the last question about EXIF - the lens has no contacts, so it acts as an adapted lens as far as the camera is concerned, even though it's a native mount.

Aug 08, 2012 at 09:07 AM

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p.4 #10 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Looks really good. Does it have a bit of barrel distorition, or am I imagining that?

Any images of the camera + lens?

Aug 08, 2012 at 10:04 AM

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p.4 #11 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Would love to see a direct comparison between the OM-D+17.5/0.95 and the Nex-5N+24/1.8. The MFT combo can get a little shallower DoF, but otherwise, those kits are pretty comparable.

Aug 08, 2012 at 10:17 AM

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p.4 #12 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Full review is now up:
http://admiringlight.com/blog/review-voigtlander-nokton-17-5mm-f0-95/

Aug 08, 2012 at 09:37 PM

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p.4 #13 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Nice review.

Aug 09, 2012 at 10:23 AM

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p.4 #14 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Jman13 wrote:
Thanks!

Tested it at night tonight. Aside from purple fringing wide open, this with the E-M5 is the ultimate night street photography tool. I'm not a street photographer, but well, it's the ultimate night photography tool, period. When I was shooting wide open, the highest ISO I needed was ISO 400. I went as high as 800 when I wanted to stop down a little.

I shot most of the night at ISO 200.

Looking good!

Aug 09, 2012 at 10:31 AM

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p.4 #15 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Thanks for the good review, Jordan. MF is a deal breaker, for me. I will wait for the next f0.95 lens with AF, thank you.

Aug 09, 2012 at 10:54 AM

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p.4 #16 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

bobbytan wrote:
Thanks for the good review, Jordan. MF is a deal breaker, for me. I will wait for the next f0.95 lens with AF, thank you.

Dont think that will ever happen.. Even MF version is pretty huge and if you would add AF motor, it would be even bigger. Besides I dont think Panasonic or Olympus even think about this, considering that conservative fast-ish zooms that Panasonic is currently producing.

Plus AF at f0.95 is kinda tricky..

Aug 09, 2012 at 01:35 PM

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p.4 #17 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

I agree that we will likely not ever see an AF version of something like this, but AF at f/0.95 would be no problem for a CDAF system like this. Nice thing about CDAF...it is absolutely dead-on accurate. No more front or back focusing.

Aug 09, 2012 at 02:03 PM

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p.4 #18 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Oh boy...

Have you tried the 25/0.95 or the 35/1.2 II and if so, how does it compare?

Love that f1.2 shot

Aug 09, 2012 at 04:33 PM

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p.4 #19 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

Jman13 wrote:
150% at 0.3 is less sharpening than 50% at 1 pixel. Canon recommends 300% at 0.3.

Aug 09, 2012 at 05:18 PM

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p.4 #20 · Oh boy.... (Nokton 17.5 f/0.95)

aleksanderpolo wrote:
Oh boy...

Have you tried the 25/0.95 or the 35/1.2 II and if so, how does it compare?

Love that f1.2 shot

Thanks.

I haven't tried either of those other voigtlanders. I used to own the little Nokton 40/1.4, and the 17 is much sharper wide open than that was, with better bokeh wide open as well...but it's not exactly a competing lens.

Aug 10, 2012 at 08:37 AM

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